FINAL FANTASY XIV: Rikers' Island

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Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

I wonder how much XP those new XTREME levequests will give, and if they'll be feasible for leveling the new classes with. Even if not, the new-class-FATE-rush will be glorious to witness.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 03:12

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 04:29

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Leal posted:

Post your catgirl

Am I doing this right?

FRoe have the best level 1 armor.

She'll probably become an Au Ra.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 03:35

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2015 14:21

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Got MCH a hair away from 48. The upside of being away all weekend will be that I'll come back to more than enough rest XP to coast to 50.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 08:51

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Demicol posted:

Only 5 AST levels to go then I can finally start the new story.. gotta stay strong.

If you can make or find a DD trash clear group, it's still king for 44-50 despite the dungeon mob XP nerf (the extra 50% armory bonus makes up for it). A good group will average one run every three minutes for about 14.7k xp/minute.

MCH 49. Why am I even awake.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 14:32

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Ciaphas posted:

Think I'm gonna get MCH to at least 40 so I can try Wildfire and turrets out before I give up on them for now. It's odd, because I like BRD and they have a certain similarity. Maybe it's just because I'm not 50(+) anymore

Question, does ammo affect the potency of the DoT on Lead Shot?

If you do not like MCH at 30, you will not like it past 40. Wildfire doesn't change our gameplay at all; it's just another +damage buff with a unique conditional (mob must stay alive for 15s). Rook turret is really just a DoT you have to place on the ground every fight rather than on the enemy.

AFAIK from limited testing ammo ups the initial damage from Lead Shot, but not the DoT.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 15:27

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Welfare i115 is the best.

:siren:

How to Not Suck at Leveling 30-50 :siren:

Always do your low level roulette daily first if not already completed. Levequests current benefit from rest XP, but do not consume it. You heard me right. This makes levequests ludicrous in the level ranges they're available. FATEs suck and are terrible XP/hour due to boss HP scaling and the massive zergfests going on right now.

30-35: Go to Camp Tranquil in South Shroud. Get the Adamantoise Tears leve. Max level difficulty, just run and pick up the tears while ignoring all enemies. They attack slow, so even with 2 on you, you can pick the items up off the ground. If Adamantoise Tears isn't available, do Black Market Down on lowest difficulty to bring it back.

35-40: Do Qarn at level 35 until 36/Cutter's Cry at 38 until 39 (chain XP puts them on top over leves). Otherwise, Go to the Observatorium in Coerthas. Run Cower to the People, just like Adamantoise Tears. If it's not up, Have a Nice Trip and Now We're Even are nice alternatives. Alternatively you can chain run whatever your latest dungeon is; they give a little less XP/hour than leves.

40-44: lovely levels. Cutter's Cry at 40 and Stone Vigil from 41-44 are the fastest XP/hour available to you. If you have an amazing HQ gear set and can handle +5 mobs, go to St Conch and do leves there (see below). If you have slow queues, sorry; your best bet is to find a Coerthas FATE group in party finder and join the zerg while you're in queue.

44-50: Find or build a DD speedclear group. Coast to 50 on 800,000+ xp/hour. If you're a lone wolf and rue the concept of playing with others in an MMO, you can go to St Conch in Mor Dhona. Grab all of the leves except the Naturalist. Speeding through those will give about 600k xp/hour if you have rest XP available, a little more or less depending on your efficiency.

Leve tips: Is the leve telling you to kill a mob for an item to use on other mobs to dispell their illusion BS? If you hit a mob, their illusion is dispelled anyways, so just run around tapping all the mobs once, run out of range, then run back in and kill your leve targets. Picking stuff up off the ground? Ignore all enemies, acquire tears.

Zagposting fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jun 20, 2015

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 16:18

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Mazed posted:

Thank you, this post is good. An alternative to Camp Tranquil, FYI, is Costa Del Sol.

Costa is nice, but Adamantoise Tears is probably the best leve in the game for xp/hour, so there's not much reason to do anything other than that in that level range. The leve is right next to the Levemete, you can finish it in under a minute, and it comes back instantly most of the time (and there's an easy 100% reset for it if not).

Malloreon posted:

Thanks for posting this. Any rec for where to do 20-30 maximally efficiently? I have a few classes languishing. I had no idea levequests didn't spend rest XP while taking advantage of it - think that'll be changed?

20-30 you can stick around South Shroud/Quarrymill, fish for No Leaves Left Behind in the 20-25 range and Up the Creek in the 25-30 range. Other leves there are fine too, just ignore any escorts. Always run equal level dungeons for chain bonuses.

I'm assuming they'll fix it eventually, but it's been like this for a while now.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 17:31

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Did my first dungeon run with Bishop Turret and it's pretty awesome. I wish the TP/MP promotions on Rook and Bishop were swapped, though.

I'm one level away from Gauss Rifle. Just from looking at the ability, unless the charge times are really short and SE tones down the positional AoEs compared to the last raid tier, it's mostly going to be a solo tool or for trash AoE. Not that I'm complaining about more of either of those with how lackluster Grenado Shot is.

# ¿ Jun 20, 2015 19:58

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After playing with Gauss Barrel/Round a bit on MCH... It's neat, but I think ultimately I'm going to go level WAR or DRG now. Not just because of Gauss, but I hate having more abilities to use off-GCD than I do on-GCD. Getting off a full Wildfire combo feels amazing, but my eyes are burning a hole in my hotbars without Ammunition up, and I have to weave 6 (7 when I'd hit 58) buffs off GCD in between my normal attacks with Wildfire up to maximize damage. It's way more buttons to press and fast paced than other classes, but I think I prefer the long rotations with different 1-2-3 combos DRG and WAR have.

# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 00:40

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Hivac posted:

Funnily enough, I gave up on MCH at level 52 because my damage kept continuing to fall off even after getting Gauss Barrel. I cleared the Halatali quest in about half of the amount of time on 51 DRG that it took for me to make it to the end on MCH and die.

Same experience here. At first I thought they just spiked the soloing difficulty and kept trucking on, but after switching back to DRG it was a night and day difference. Gauss didn't make a big difference when I got it/Gauss Round. Class efficiency aside, I would still be leveling MCH if it had less poo poo to push off-GCD (which is less likely to get patched than a damage buff). Rapid Fire is immensely satisfying, but not when I have to load up Wildfire, 3 cross-class buffs, and Reload alongside it all while trying to do my normal 1-2--3 combo.

What I don't get is they gave BRD the exact same cast-time mechanic, but rather than giving the class odd abilities from 56-60 (Rend Mind? Seriously?), BRD gets a ton of QOL abilities tied to Wanderer's Minuet that decreases the action burden of the class (Iron Jaws' DoT refresh) and burst (assuming Sidewinder is bugged and should require Wanderer's Minuet).

# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 18:06

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Minrad posted:

Most parses are incorrectly reading their dot and wildfire. And the figures given using said parses are ranging from as "bad" as being 10% below other dps to outrageous claims of doing 30% of the damage of a real dps.

If they are bad they'll get buffed, if they aren't who cares. Either way it only matters for progression raiding.

Parser was updated yesterday and it includes Wildfire and their dot.

Edit: Also looks like my intuition earlier was right. Gauss Barrel is a DPS decrease for everything but AoE, even without taking movement into account. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cB-j_r0xrHGO99H8l5eGNau_Sx-gSRhXjEehVWpYrxU/edit#gid=469259023

# ¿ Jun 22, 2015 20:23

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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fadam posted:

Someone effort posted a big list of levels to do leveling from 30-50, does anyone remember what they were?

Riftling posted:

Welfare i115 is the best.

How to Not Suck at Leveling 30-50

Always do your low level roulette daily first if not already completed. Levequests current benefit from rest XP, but do not consume it. You heard me right. This makes levequests ludicrous in the level ranges they're available. FATEs suck and are terrible XP/hour due to boss HP scaling and the massive zergfests going on right now.

30-35: Go to Camp Tranquil in South Shroud. Get the Adamantoise Tears leve. Max level difficulty, just run and pick up the tears while ignoring all enemies. They attack slow, so even with 2 on you, you can pick the items up off the ground. If Adamantoise Tears isn't available, do Black Market Down on lowest difficulty to bring it back.

35-40: Do Qarn at level 35 until 36/Cutter's Cry at 38 until 39 (chain XP puts them on top over leves). Otherwise, Go to the Observatorium in Coerthas. Run Cower to the People, just like Adamantoise Tears. If it's not up, Have a Nice Trip and Now We're Even are nice alternatives. Alternatively you can chain run whatever your latest dungeon is; they give a little less XP/hour than leves.

40-44: lovely levels. Cutter's Cry at 40 and Stone Vigil from 41-44 are the fastest XP/hour available to you. If you have an amazing HQ gear set and can handle +5 mobs, go to St Conch and do leves there (see below). If you have slow queues, sorry; your best bet is to find a Coerthas FATE group in party finder and join the zerg while you're in queue.

44-50: Find or build a DD speedclear group. Coast to 50 on 800,000+ xp/hour. If you're a lone wolf and rue the concept of playing with others in an MMO, you can go to St Conch in Mor Dhona. Grab all of the leves except the Naturalist. Speeding through those will give about 600k xp/hour if you have rest XP available, a little more or less depending on your efficiency.

Leve tips: Is the leve telling you to kill a mob for an item to use on other mobs to dispell their illusion BS? If you hit a mob, their illusion is dispelled anyways, so just run around tapping all the mobs once, run out of range, then run back in and kill your leve targets. Picking stuff up off the ground? Ignore all enemies, acquire tears.

Didn't think it was that far back... it was 22 pages ago :v:

# ¿ Jun 24, 2015 00:24

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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KoB posted:

I thought they neutered the xp on mobs in DD.

They didn't neuter the mob XP; they just lowered it a little bit, and at the same time, we got an extra 50% armory bonus. DD is still the 44-50 king.

Panic! at Nabisco posted:

This guide confuses me. I was under the impression that Brayflox was better exp than pretty much anything else until Stone Vigil, though I realize Qarn and beyond got mob exp nerfed and boss exp buffed, so maybe that makes them more worthwhile?

Read the first part. Levequests benefit from and don't consume rest XP, so you can literally coast from 30-40 on quickly repeatable levequests and still have most of your rest XP to spare. Brayflox, even with an efficient group, won't beat out the xp/hour the 30-40 leves give, to boot.

# ¿ Jun 24, 2015 01:20

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Fluegel posted:

I've had an itch to start playing this game again. I played a Paladin to level ~37 or something and then had to quit because I didn't really have any spare MMO time. If I just want to dip my toes in again should I buy Heavensward? Are there any graphical upgrades or quality of life changes or something? If not I guess I'll just get myself a month and continue the story.

Get another month of game time. The expansion will not influence your game play at all until you hit 50 and beat all of the main story quests up until 2.55. The expansion did update the game with DX11 support for everyone, so you can enjoy that without the expansion.

Elswyyr posted:

What kind of QoL features did the expansion add? I last played during 2.2, and I hated the inventory system and everything to do with Retainers.

You can custom-sort your inventory now with slash commands (and can look up pre-made macros if you're lazy), and I don't know why you'd hate everything to do with retainers when they have a minimal game impact and you can safely ignore them. :v:

# ¿ Jun 25, 2015 20:31

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

If you want an easy way to find your hunt marks, I saw this over on Reddit. Pretty handy.

# ¿ Jun 28, 2015 15:45

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

I like how I have zero incentive to do the DRG 58 or 60 quests for the abilities. Why, yes, I would like a weird AoE I can use once in a blue moon and an ability that's only purpose is to add randomization to my rotation. Seriously.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 04:07

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Or I didn't know Geirskogul was off-GCD? :v:

Worth it, then. Also, if your war is beating DPS classes in DPS 51-60, you have some pretty bad DPS.

# ¿ Jun 29, 2015 04:50

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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Pews posted:

This, also rebind D to interact or something cuz theres no need to backpedal ever. (except maybe tanks or something i dunno)

Legacy movement D has you turn around and run instead of backpedal. Really useful for a tank.

# ¿ Jul 25, 2015 16:48

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

It's a useless stat, they said.

Coming back to XIV after being gone for most of an expansion is an absolute overload of stuff to do. After reading up on things a little, I just gave up, found PotD, and decided to level Rogue from scratch. I figure I can just grind this from 1-60 before the xpac since I'm not burned out on PotD like everyone else is.

Also I should probably maybe do the story before Stormblood hits. Probably.

# ¿ May 24, 2017 17:24

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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 04:29

Zagposting: Nov 18, 2012; Don't put points into luck, they said.

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What class has the most sleeveless glamour options? MNK? This will probably determine the class I play in SB, because nothing else is helping me decide.

# ¿ Jun 13, 2017 18:38

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