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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I think I've seen mental illness and a few reasonable people on both sides. Somehow the topic keeps ending up on the news, the radio and referenced in popular media so it's not like people are still talking about one thing that happened a year ago. This has definitely given me greater appreciation for tech writers like Erik Kain and David Auerbach.
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icantfindaname posted:gas thread, ban OP, send all gamergaters to reeducation and reform through labor camps Do you have a list of gamergaters and gamergate sympathizers?
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Effectronica posted:The basic assumptions about human behavior on display here are astounding, as is the belief that existence should consist of carefully siloed identities from here to eternity. Normally I enjoy it when guys stick things into my mouth, but I never said that you need to make endless identities for yourself. Just a private one, and a business one. Which isn't that strange, I think?
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So if TCC is still open and it took the FBI calling lowtax to get a forum of Stalinists shut down, what makes a single thread in which autistic people get mad at a perceived threat to their coping mechanism so bad?
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PupsOfWar posted:Wait are gamerdweebs still On about this?
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Powercrazy posted:Actually no. It's not the relationship between a "developer" and a "journalist," its the non-disclosure. Since being good friends with someone is obviously going to color your review of their product. That's really it, and one of the many good things that has come from gamergate, beyond the hilarity of people melting down about it, is that many sites now have disclosures as part of their review process. Personally, I would not consider the expansion of the surveillance state to be a good thing.
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I said come in! posted:Not really, no. Twitter along with the help of a 3rd party feminist group, like two months ago, conducted research on harassment on Twitter, and they found that even last year hardly any of the harassment was coming from Gamergate. And one woman made a blocklist to block harassers, but less than 1% of the accounts on it were involved with harassment.
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Powercrazy posted:Do you have a list of gamergaters and gamergate sympathizers? we're not barbarians, this is 2015. the femi-gestapo's got that covered
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Terrible Opinions posted:So if TCC is still open and it took the FBI calling lowtax to get a forum of Stalinists shut down, what makes a single thread in which autistic people get mad at a perceived threat to their coping mechanism so bad? I don't know, but for some twitter is a lifestyle.
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I said come in! posted:Not really, no. Twitter along with the help of a 3rd party feminist group, like two months ago, conducted research on harassment on Twitter, and they found that even last year hardly any of the harassment was coming from Gamergate. I think they all just sit around on subreddits and circlejerk about whichever evil feminazi is keeping them down now and occasionally threaten to rape and murder Anita Sarkeesian.
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SedanChair posted:How can you be reasonable in defense of sexism, or in opposition to feminism? Wrong side of history man. Feminism is alright. Sexism is a bad thing but it's OK for it to be reflected in media and like violence it's not always a terrible thing in media.
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Effectronica posted:Personally, I would not consider the expansion of the surveillance state to be a good thing. Agreed. But I think you may be posting in the wrong thread, friend 
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Archer666 posted:Normally I enjoy it when guys stick things into my mouth, but I never said that you need to make endless identities for yourself. Just a private one, and a business one. Which isn't that strange, I think? That's not what I said. Please re-read it. I said that what you were saying is that people should maintain siloed identities for the rest of human history, since there is no way to avoid the need for it. Powercrazy posted:Agreed. But I think you may be posting in the wrong thread, friend Surveillance is bad even when private individuals are doing it, because "the state" is not some sort of magical entity distinct from the people that constitute it. Furthermore, the belief that having relationships with other people is a corrupting influence is gigantically evil and your support of it is sickening.
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I was told to come here "if you are physically or mentally incapable of not posting about this topic" so... hi
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Feminism is alright. Sexism is a bad thing but it's OK for it to be reflected in media and like violence it's not always a terrible thing in media. Sure, I just think it's hilarious when gamer misogynists get flustered when it's even pointed out.
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Shugojin posted:I think they all just sit around on subreddits and circlejerk about whichever evil feminazi is keeping them down now and occasionally threaten to rape and murder Anita Sarkeesian. Wow that sounds pretty bad. Care to post some examples of these broken people?
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Shugojin posted:I think they all just sit around on subreddits and circlejerk about whichever evil feminazi is keeping them down now and occasionally threaten to rape and murder Anita Sarkeesian. Anita Sarkeesian has completely trashed her reputation at this point. Her Twitter account, along with McIntosh, are a comedy gold mine of horrible opinions. These two people are quite literally never satisfied with anything, ever. Their presence on Twitter is just endless complaining about how every single video game is problematic. They wait around for the next big video game release and then they trash the game with awful opinions that are never accurate. Their Witcher 3 and Bayonetta 2 opinions actually caused a lot of supporters to back away from them.
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XMNN posted:Yeah, neither side can leave it alone so it will never end. Pretty much. Like this thread's predecessor it didn't slow down purely because people didn't leave it alone - whenever there was a quiet period someone would speak up and complain about The Other Side and promptly kick things off again. It's hilarious how how many different little teams are running around various places waiting for each other to slip up at this point.
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Effectronica posted:Surveillance is bad even when private individuals are doing it, because "the state" is not some sort of magical entity distinct from the people that constitute it. Furthermore, the belief that having relationships with other people is a corrupting influence is gigantically evil and your support of it is sickening. Cute little strawman you've built there, but seriously don't do it again.
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I said come in! posted:Anita Sarkeesian has completely trashed her reputation at this point. Her Twitter account, along with McIntosh, are a comedy gold mine of horrible opinions. These two people are quite literally never satisfied with anything, ever. Their presence on Twitter is just endless complaining about how every single video game is problematic. They wait around for the next big video game release and then they trash the game with awful opinions that are never accurate. Their Witcher 3 and Bayonetta 2 opinions actually caused a lot of supporters to back away from them. This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop?
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SedanChair posted:Sure, I just think it's hilarious when gamer misogynists get flustered when it's even pointed out. It's kinda like walking into a republican rally and calling everyone racist. The overall statement is probably true, but there might be some collateral damage from people who just really like elephants.
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I guess there have been funny things that came out of this, like people inventing an avatar of a girl to champion their views and all the insane pedophiles at 8chan.
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icantfindaname posted:This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop? Seems like a cool game, whats the name of it? Also why does it matter that a sexist game as created, what should be done about it?
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icantfindaname posted:This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop? Wait did they bring the hookercards back for 3? Even if they're still dead, good lord that was shameful and a segment of the game I avoided except for accidentally triggering it a couple times. "Hmmm I can give this lady a flower I wonder what happ-- oh. Uh. I see."
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Powercrazy posted:Cute little strawman you've built there, but seriously don't do it again. That is exactly what you said. That it is necessary to disclose personal relationships because they are a corrupting influence on "objectivity". This in turn suggests that human relationships are inherently corrupt, conflates human contact with the buying of reviews that goes on overtly and covertly, and which everyone knew was going on before they decided to come down on the evil left-wingers, and concludes that trust is impossible. In short, you've never, ever thought about what slips from your lips unceasingly.
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icantfindaname posted:This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's all about context. Bayonetta makes her outfit and behavior her own, it's clearly shown to not be in the service of others. This is why it's not sexist. Clothing by itself has nothing to do with sexism.
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Weren't a full 25% of posts in the last thread tezzor or bonvivant? I'm still upset that the latter was unwilling to substantiate his claims that tezzor was a pedophile, and I doubt bonny will post here out of fear of being banned.
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icantfindaname posted:This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop? Wait, I thought Bayonetta was empowering to some? Have you read Liana Kerzner?
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I said come in! posted:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's all about context. Bayonetta makes her outfit and behavior her own, it's clearly shown to not be in the service of others. This is why it's not sexist. Clothing by itself has nothing to do with sexism. Hmm, well, I don't think it works quite like that. I know you want it to, because it allows one right answer and the rest wrong, but it's just not real. It's an insane way to look at the world.
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:Wait, I thought Bayonetta was empowering to some? She is empowering. She is the most progressive video game character ever, not to mention Bayonetta 2 was pretty much the best game of 2014.
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Shugojin posted:Wait did they bring the hookercards back for 3? No they dropped it after 1 thankfully, because it was as you said shameful and sad. There is still a bit of uncomfortable sex stuff in the Witcher 3, but it's mostly like what you get in aSoIaF. Sometimes in service in pointing out that medieval society sucked and needed to change and sometimes because the author wanted to feed their fetish.
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icantfindaname posted:This game about a big-boobed British-accented dominatrix wearing a skintight suit of her own heel-length hair, I don't see how this could be sexist. Nor the game with prostitute trading cards and sex scenes with them. Will the feminazi media never stop? A strong-willed competent female protagonist with agency who isn't ashamed of her body? Someone fast, light the Dworkin Signal!
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I said come in! posted:I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, but it's all about context. Bayonetta makes her outfit and behavior her own, it's clearly shown to not be in the service of others. This is why it's not sexist. Clothing by itself has nothing to do with sexism. bayonetta doesn't make anything her own, because she's not a person, she's a fictional character created by a japanese dude as fetish pornography after he visited a dominatrix on a trip to london.
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Now we're in D&D is this where I double toxx for Sanders winning the primary then the election?
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Effectronica posted:Hmm, well, I don't think it works quite like that. I know you want it to, because it allows one right answer and the rest wrong, but it's just not real. It's an insane way to look at the world. I've followed your work on an off for a few years. Aggressive, brutal. I like it. But thats just, like, your opinion dude.
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icantfindaname posted:bayonetta doesn't make anything her own, because she's not a person, she's a fictional character created by a japanese dude as fetish pornography after he visited a dominatrix on a trip to london. Again, it's about nuance and context. The fact that it's a fictional character isn't relevant.
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Powercrazy posted:Cute little strawman you've built there, but seriously don't do it again. i cant beleive youd completely gently caress up the Beautiful Little Strawman meme like this
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Kinda funny to see people complaining about "identity politics" when that is exactly what Gamergate seems to amount to; it's identity politics for people who somehow identify with "gaming culture". Anytime I make the mistake of checking out something related to "gamergate" I find all these insufferable claims that gaming is a "culture" that is "under attack" or that gamers are an "oppressed minority". That kind of rhetoric is identity politics 101. I said come in! posted:Anita Sarkeesian has completely trashed her reputation at this point. Her Twitter account, along with McIntosh, are a comedy gold mine of horrible opinions. These two people are quite literally never satisfied with anything, ever. Their presence on Twitter is just endless complaining about how every single video game is problematic. They wait around for the next big video game release and then they trash the game with awful opinions that are never accurate. Their Witcher 3 and Bayonetta 2 opinions actually caused a lot of supporters to back away from them. What has Sarkessian done to trash her reputation? (Also: what reputation?) I watched the first episode of her youtube series on sexism in video games about a year ago when I first heard about her and couldn't really understand why she would be a figure of controversy.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Sometimes in service in pointing out that medieval society sucked and needed to change and sometimes because the author wanted to feed their fetish. oh well as long as it's only sometimes, I guess it's fine
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InsanityIsCrazy posted:I've followed your work on an off for a few years. Aggressive, brutal. I like it. But thats just, like, your opinion dude. it was really boring in lf and its really boring here
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