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Exclamation Marx posted:And please remember that video games aren't very important in the greater scheme of things, when you really think about it. As a Real Gamer with over 20 thousand hours of Gaming on various platform I find this disrespect of my native culture highly offensive and I think it is unfair that we Gamers are being marginalized which is basically racist against Gaming.
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Radbot posted:I used to like video games, then it became a "culture" with "master races" and costumes and stupid figurines and MRAs and I realized I was a man, not a child, and stopped playing them mostly. You can still play video games and just look down on all the people who are weird about them.
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Jun 26, 2015 13:46
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Thunder Moose posted:Serious post: I thought it all began with Rome 2 when the game was realized in a really poor form (unplayable) despite a lot of review companies giving it like 9/10s and 10/10s. I also managed to miss most of it so I have been trying to pretend like I know what's going on for the past year or so.
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Jun 26, 2015 14:23
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Bedshaped posted:What have Fem Freq promised? Depends on whether they're a for-profit organisation or a quasi-charitable initiative. Generally the former lacks ethical credibility and the latter should put surplus funds back into the project goal.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:43
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Personally if someone gave me half a million dollars to make a mediocre youtube video about feminism in videogames I'd probablly give it all to a women's shelter or something because there is no way in hell I can put that money to as good a use as they can for the cause. At some point you have to tell people to stop they're being silly there are way more important things you should spend your money on.
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Jun 26, 2015 20:52
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so your evidence that anita sarkeesian is a thief is because she was given a bunch of money to make some videos, and then she made some videos and continues to make videos. but maybe she was given too much money? It's a little bit weird if someone who makes a living making videos about a worthy social cause, upon receipt of a whole fucktonne of money, then sits on said money and keeps making videos. Rather than giving a bunch of said money to the many other similar, if not far more worthy facets of their worthy social cause. If you get your cred to make your living by being socially conscious, do you get to become a little conspicuously deaf to social consciousness when it involves giving away your newly acquired fortune to the cause you apparently believe in enough to devote your working life to? Like, is it more important that your cause is advanced, or that you personally get to stay paid-in-advance for the next twenty years?
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Jun 26, 2015 21:02
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Popular Thug Drink posted:no it isnt Well no I guess it isn't entirely surprising because I daresay most people would drop their principles for money but it's not really the sort of thing to get enthused about.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:05
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so then don't get enthused about it It is when that kickstarter is specifically for what is essentially a charitable cause. Like, women get a lovely deal in society, we have lots of charities trying to set that right. It would, I think, be pretty naive to say that someone looking to advance awareness of women's issues and getting funding for that, isn't basically getting charity money. Because that is exactly the thing that you would give money to charity for. Essentially, the kickstarter wasn't "fund my professional career because I want to be rich, and also I'll do feminist videos." It will almost certainly have been funded in part because it is a charitable cause. So in that instance, yes, if you end up making a lot of money because your cause is a good one, you should put that money towards the cause, because that's the reason you were given it in the first place. It is objectionable for the same reason it is objectionable for charitable organizations to spend their donations on extravagances for their senior employees instead of on their supposed goal. That may technically be within the bounds of the organization's protocols but it's thoroughly disingenuous to the people donating.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:13
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Popular Thug Drink posted:feminist critical analysis of video games isn't a charitable cause, it's social commentary Perhaps nominally, but again, I highly doubt that she was funded purely because people wanted to purchase her product and/or service, and not at all because people felt that the product and/or service served a greater social good. If you derive gain from credibility as a social service, you are under obligation to funnel that gain back into the perceived service that got you it to begin with.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:19
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Popular Thug Drink posted:social commentary isn't a social service and anita isn't invalidated because some people may or may not have backed her out of spite Her work isn't invalidated no, it is what it is regardless of whether she is responsible with the money she acquired. But I do think that it reflects poorly on her commitment to her work that she doesn't spend it where it could do more good, and also poorly on people who keep funding her through patreon instead of giving to places and groups which could more directly use the money to help women on the receiving end of social injustice.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:33
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so you think she's a hypocrite because she didn't give some of the money she got to make videos for the purpose of making videos to a women's shelter or something She is either somewhat hypocritical or rather short sighted if she genuinely believes that the hundreds of thousands of dollars she received was all because her videos are positively fascinating and not related to a wider desire for social justice, and thus she is entirely unobligated to further that desire with the funding she acquired. Her backers are just bad at spending, she doesn't need more money to make videos and if you want to help women out then there are way better places to spend your money. You don't have want to do that but I dunno why you'd give her money otherwise.
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Jun 26, 2015 21:37
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Shadoer posted:Really? Cause I never heard of the socialist answer to morale corruption in the human soul? Broadly the same reason you do anything. Entropy may be inescapable but you still make the effort because it would be really boring/poo poo if you didn't.
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