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Crain posted:The best answer really is that they are just assholes. Some percentage of them are teenage edgelords who just want to stir poo poo up. Some are just trolls. Some are just broken people who honestly wish that the current day was just like TYOOL 1950 but with video games and fast internet and netflix.
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I think another reason that they join, connected somewhat to your point that they 'they find the ideas themselves appealing' is that it has elements to make you feel powerful. You get a scapegoat (the 'Cathedral') that renders the political process an exercise in futility that is just there to appease the sheeple. You get a radical, small, and exclusive echo chamber club that isn't marred by the nuance of trying to discuss modern conservatism or socialism (which actually have real authors behind them). You get an out-there idea. There's nobody else (except possibly ISIS) trying to go full tilt reactionary to the other side of the enlightenment. In fact, it's so out there that it has never failed or been failed, again because nobody has thought it was a good idea to try. I can understand why the seemingly-hopeless-at-times uphill battle of defending the downtrodden achieve equality or even just providing a good existence for all could seem depressing, so here's a fanfic where you get to be a feudal lord instead! And it takes some cues from fascism to make you feel proud, feel powerful, feel like part of a unity above the 'enemy' or the 'degeneracy of the modern age'.
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Jul 1, 2015 20:52
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Captain_Maclaine posted:It was last time these fucks came into power, why would you think they'd balk at it again? 
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Jul 1, 2015 21:19
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bartlebyshop posted:The forums they do best in are ones where it's fine to say women shouldn't be able to vote because they're stupid and irrational, but when a woman gets upset/emotional and calls them a "shithead" or worse a "misogynist", the woman gets banned. 
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Jul 1, 2015 22:42
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Bulkiest Toaster posted:A lot of people are pointing to anxieties about race, but I am also detecting some anxieties about technology and some of their thoughts seem very similar to ideas expressed in the unabomber's manifesto. That also plays into what other people are saying about the idea that smart people think they are smart enough to know how to run society. This was something the unabomber clearly also felt if you read his writings. The left also uses the masking effect of technology argument against capitalism, like showing that the poor aren't really better off compared to the rich now, even if they do have a cheap smartphone and a refrigerator.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:56
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rudatron posted:Don't let the occasional techno-fetishism fool you. These guys are morons too arrogant to admit error, and too insecure to suffer anything less than the title of 'serious intellectual'. rudatron posted:At least until the robot is made that runs on perfect bayesian thinking, then we're pretty screwed.
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Jul 2, 2015 16:55
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Series DD Funding posted:What a brilliant and smart thesis 
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Jul 2, 2015 21:07
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Crain posted:They're literally just saying "remember monarchies and church rule? Let's do that again. Also the matrix."
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Jul 2, 2015 23:36
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Chocolate Teapot posted:Why do you keep bringing up liberalism, like it's some sort of polar opposite to DE? Which makes sense if you ignore history. They care about liberalism/liberal democracy more than they do about socialism and fascism because of their positioning it as the dominant current 'degenerate' theory.
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Jul 3, 2015 00:58
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Dahn posted:I had always placed the blame for the Dark Ages in the lap of the church.
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Jul 30, 2015 15:27
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Luigi Thirty posted:Is this where we bust out that TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT graph that goes flat for 1000 years because of "the church"?
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Jul 31, 2015 17:28
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Don't forget that the 'transhuman renaissance' is going to start at what looks like early 19th century levels of technology. And lead straight into the singularity. There was quite a bit of improvement in using cams, pegs, and shafts as mechanisms in the 'dark ages' too, and the improvements in wind and water mills that allowed for. Apparently the Church in that period developed the precursors of modern management science, which were invaluable in forming modern cities, and made some interesting developments in philosophy too.
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Jul 31, 2015 18:29
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And rocket propelled arrows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gmFep_UqAo
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Jul 31, 2015 19:42
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The NRx Overton window: e: Also  at the fact that they don't have anything left of the SPLC.  
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Jul 31, 2015 22:20
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The "race gap" means that "fleet of foot" Ron Paul and "Front National" Le Pen don't talk about race enough for their liking.
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Jul 31, 2015 22:26
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Nessus posted:Uh no I think you will find that the Church greatly reduced the average beakers per turn by burning the witches and also making people worship Jesus instead of Carl Sagan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_Catholic_cleric-scientists There were a lot of systemic problems with the Church hierarchy and the exploitation of wealth, but creating a class of people who had the freedom and encouragement to sit around and really *think* about stuff wasn't anywhere near the top.
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Jul 31, 2015 22:49
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Hodgepodge posted:Those are closer to baseball cards. None give him special abilities that 12-year-old Hilter would have given himself.
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Aug 1, 2015 01:56
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Dmitri-9 posted:according to Captain Planet his hate aura can nauseate elementals 
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Aug 1, 2015 14:48
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They're like antinatalists but with a limited and boring imagination.
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Aug 4, 2015 01:48
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OwlFancier posted:Is there a rundown of what the things listed in the title of the thread are? Racial Realism - I am also not a racist, I am a realist. Look at all those crimes those people commit. Why do you think that is? (It is because of their race (still not racist)). Dark Enlightenment - You're in for a treat here. Take the red pill and discover that democracy is a failed experiment because it allows people I don't like to vote, that society has been going downhill since the enlightenment because of a shady cabal promoting things like 'human rights', and how we'd really all be better under an absolute monarchy where the absolute monarch is me.
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Aug 4, 2015 16:40
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ocrumsprug posted:Out of curiosity, what happened in May 2009 that caused our two thousand year regression to the 50's?
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Aug 4, 2015 17:41
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They'd argue the opposite, that most people are anti-racist, or at least anti overt racism, and pro democracy, and pro rights, because the liberal enlightenment cathedral has programed them to be. They are the only ones that dare look past what is 'popularly acceptable' to their bold new lands of writing way too many words about how everyone but them is dumb.
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Aug 4, 2015 18:06
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The Vosgian Beast posted:There are a few antinatalists who did a reverse Cioran into the Dork Enlightenment.
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Aug 5, 2015 16:49
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Sharkie posted:So what's a "tribal nature"? People in ghettoized or marginalized communities and people who feel that they have less control over their fate are more likely to feel like this all the time. Obviously it's because of their lower IQ. 
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Dec 12, 2015 23:33
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GunnerJ posted:Anarchism seems to literally mean capitalism for some people.  "
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Dec 14, 2015 16:25
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Why is there random Portuguese in there?
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Dec 15, 2015 15:39
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Wait, Dylan Klebold was born on 9/11? No wonder the kid was messed up. 
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Dec 15, 2015 15:51
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420 smoke a PPK muzzle
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Dec 15, 2015 16:52
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Ddraig posted:And ever since Vicky, haemophilia.
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Dec 15, 2015 20:03
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Doc Hawkins posted:Ayn Rand carried one hell of a torch for a guy convicted of kidnapping and horrifically* murdering a 12-year old. Doc Hawkins posted:I guess you hadn't heard about the Colorado university who banned a former teacher from their campus when someone pointed out he was the creator of Super Columbine Massacre RPG. Ran Mad Dog posted:I'm of the belief that "ironic" racism doesn't exist, it's just plain old racism every time regardless of intent. These idiots seem to demonstrate that pretty well and probably all of them would unironically use the term "race realist" anyways. Done properly, ironic x can be used to challenge x. I know reddit aren't doing that, but sometimes ironic racism can work.
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Dec 16, 2015 10:44
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Race Realists posted:any examples please? I think that counts as ironic racism, because he's not actually racist nor was his intent, and it seemed to raise more understanding than hate, but maybe he's just an unfunny racist edgelord too v  vThen again that kind of thing seems to fall flat on its face whenever it hits the wider public sphere/majority outrage machine so idk.
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Dec 16, 2015 11:15
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Main Paineframe posted:The problem with this is that a lot of racists project pretty hard - that is, the racist believes that most other races are just as racist against white people as the racist is against those races. Raceswapping doesn't really work against strong racism because racists already assume that minorities are saying those things about them. In fact, they often use it as a justification for racism, often something like "we have to band together to protect the white race, otherwise those minorities will marginalize and destroy all white people because they're racist against us, so we have to oppress them to prevent them from ever having the societal power necessary to oppress us". Raceswapping might sway people who don't care and haven't really thought about it, but the minute you hit even the slightest vein of solid racism it breaks down completely. I think MLK hit the nail on the head with there being a small contingent of unrepentant racists who will hate you no matter what you do, and you're never going to change their minds, but the biggest group blocking your way are the so-called moderates of whichever group is in power, the ones who say "racism was over when..." or "can't we change it by this meaningless way that doesn't inconvenience me at all instead" or "love me, love me, love me, I'm a liberal". Those are the ones that are quick to butthurt and might actually stop and think if you then turn around and say "lol, I actually just copied something that [public figure] said that you probably skimmed over without thinking until I switched it around". Or even if they don't then the trolling was amusing, but like you say on a wider stage that tactic would probably just draw the stormfronters out.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:32
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 Pro-Logic really sets the tone for all the rest.
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Well that explains a lot (maybe).
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Dec 17, 2015 19:32
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Second rule of science journalism: don't read it
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Dec 18, 2015 00:34
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Cingulate posted:NEJM isn't science journalism you dolt 
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Dec 18, 2015 13:18
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Xand_Man posted:I am Sexy Ozymandias, sexy king of sexy kings. Look upon my junk, ye mighty, and despair.
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Dec 21, 2015 19:18
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According to her own Objectivist philosophy that was the state's fault for being soft and offering her welfare. Of course a rational human being would accept. It's not a gotya by her own moral code, it just shows what her own moral code was like.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:16
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A good chunk of foreign aid is in the form of "here are some vouchers to buy arms/vehicles/technology from our domestic manufacturers", so that already happens without the piracy. And it's everyone else's taxes going to the captains of industry.
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Yeah I just found it funny that she had the captain of industry be a pirate to steal his taxes back, rather than gaming the foreign aid system to get his taxes and more back like any actual captain of industry would do.
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