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A lot of De Sade's writing needs to be viewed through the lens of satire. The torture porn he wrote was poo poo he was legitimately getting off on, but he also recognized that human history has basically been the struggle between workers and everyone else. A lot of his passages that seem like bizarre championing of the privileged are really just him saying, "this is what the rich actually believe!" It's just sometimes difficult to understand this because you can't help but pick up on the undertone of De Sade going, "gee, it sure would be great to be rich and powerful so I can murderfuck kids."
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Peztopiary posted:nah, you're just broken. You've clearly never paid attention to the spectrum of tipping behaviors. Ever seen a wealthy American tourist get pissed of for not being allowed to tip in a country that doesn't permit it? Ever seen someone at a restaurant who lines up a bunch of ones at the start of the meal and takes them away one by one for every perceived fault in the service he's receiving? Kit Walker fucked around with this message at 06:28 on May 5, 2016 |
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Peztopiary posted:Sure, but that dude is arguing that all charity comes from a place of contempt. It's very Randian. If you feel contempt when you give someone a couple bucks, that's an indictment of you personally, not all Humanity. The quote is saying that, socially, being the subject of charity is demeaning. You don't have to hold contempt for the people you're donating to, but it is certainly easy to feel smugly superior for your good deeds.
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Guavanaut posted:That's what they're trying to prove though, that humans by their nature of being rational are also selfish, even when they're being altruistic. A = A etc. Minus the Randian association you threw in at the end, this is true. Objectivists would not argue that helping others is an inherently selfish action, seeing as they view the concept of self-sacrifice as abhorrent and don't make the connection between "helping others makes the world a better place" and "the world being a better place benefits me."
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