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I've been holding this for the longest time, but I've finally decided to go through with it: I feel like this is an important enough issue to be discussed in full and with perspectives from all sides (yes, all sides. Just be sure to give a rational reason why you feel ideology A gets way too vilified or gets unfair precedence of ideology B ) Basically, what makes a person turn to these particular ideologies? Lack of education or information? A great majority of the people I come across online with these ideologies are ironically young men with Middle Class income with Graduate Degrees. Hell, some are married with children. What exactly is the problem here? They usually reside nowhere near the areas they deem unsafe
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 17:38 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Upper middle class white guys with lovely opinions justifying their lovely opinions because they can't stand being wrong. Im trying my level best to try and see this issue from alternative perspectives Basically, they feel like there's a war against White people (Particularly Heterosexual White Men). They feel this way due to certain ideologies that conflict with their own (that are "Anti-White") being more pervasive. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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The main reason I even made this thread is because I feel these particular groups are growing at an alarming rate. Its gotten to a point where they cannot be ignored anymore.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 17:59 |
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Its not just America, look at what's going on in the UK and Europe.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 18:00 |
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Crain posted:or they're trying to promote an even less baked scheme of "Actually it's a totally good idea to just change the whole system and just be complete assholes to everyone and put white men at the top of the social hierarchy!". When called on this, they immediately try to convince whoever they're debating that they have no problems with Asians and Statistically Speaking Asians are the Superior ones "It's not hate, it's the truth" My personal pet peeve with them is their habit of constantly alluding to 1984, using words from the book like "ThoughtCrime" and what not, in attempt to style themselves as victims and misunderstood intellectuals. EDIT: Klaus88 posted:Women say no, so they want to roll back the clock to a time when women didn't have the right to say no. On anything. Oddly enough, I'm seeing a fair amount of women in these movements. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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You can't use Racist. That word is overused so it doesn't apply to them and their arguments. You can't use Fascist. That word is overused so it doesn't apply to them and their arguments. You can't use Bigot. That word is overused so it doesn't apply to them and their arguments. You can't use White Supremacist. That word is overused so it doesn't apply to them and their arguments (see Asian IQ post). You can't use Nazi. That word is overused so it doesn't apply to them and their arguments and also I'm Jewish/Half(insert ethnicity here) A great majority of them seem to come from the South Park school of political thought where Liberals/Left Wing should hold themselves to some sort of Strawman where every opinion should be tolerated by them "You should also be tolerant of the intolerant!"
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 19:25 |
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wateroverfire posted:OP, who are these people you want to otherize? Should I hate them or just condescendingly brush them off? Please state your worldview/grievances here. Just state your reasons for believing in such.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 19:29 |
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I've noticed that sterilization is an Okay, Rational Solution to Ethno-Nationalists (particular White-Nationalists). Many of them seem to think how Israel is handling it's minority population is the Rational way. How would they go about it? Is that REALLY the proper way to deal with Poors/Minorities/Whatever group pisses you off?
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 21:10 |
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Al Cowens posted:OP, what was the psychology of you choosing "Race Realists" as your alias if you revile these people so much and do not wish for them to gain visibility? Was that a mod's doing? Believe it or not, no revulsion here. Im mostly just fascinated by the whole thing. The way they're so sure they have whole world figured out.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2015 23:33 |
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Helsing posted:Watch this clip and replace "anti-semite" with "SJW" or "Cultural Marxist" and you've pretty much summed up the movement. Not wanting to run away or be considered unconstructive, I'll answer to the best of my ability 1: http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/05/30/3443037/europe-far-right-groups/ http://www.vocativ.com/culture/uncategorized/dark-enlightenment-creepy-internet-movement-youd-better-take-seriously/ https://solidarity-us.org/node/2637 I could go on, but you get the point. 2: google hbdchick. Theres plenty more but im not going to sit here and list every single one dude. As far as 3 goes. Dont you think it's mighty peculiar how Dark Enlightenment became a thing RIGHT around a time where the UK and Europe are going in a insanely far right direction? but i guess its just me then
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2015 15:39 |
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rudatron posted:In a way the era we're in reminds me of the political agitation just after the great depression, but worse because it's reaction/far-right that's jumped out the gates really hard. I just feel like in general, we as a society (at least in America) are taking a huge leap backwards to a 1960's mindset. Just my BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jul 6, 2015 |
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Speaking completely subjective here, I just feel theres this sort of weird fetization with the past in Contemporary American media. I wish I could put my finger on it, I really do
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 16:40 |
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I've noticed a great majority of the Racial Realists I've encountered online tend to have an over reliance on crime statistics as the End All Be All proof they need. Circumstances are moot when you have proof certain minorities are Inherently More Violent
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# ¿ Jul 6, 2015 21:42 |
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roymorrison posted:if u dont have facebook or twitter u would have no idea these things youre freaking out about even exist If only that were true I'm not freaking out about it either. Just curious is all. Helsing posted:So if I understand you correctly then you're suggesting that around the time that neoliberalism and globalism became the dominant ideologies of the mainstream American establishment there was a parallel shift among some demographics toward scientific racism and Austrian economics. This, combined with fears of a One World Government and a lot of resentment toward feminists and blacks, produced the core ideological suppositions of the contemporary far right, including NRx. Ah, thank you for the explanation. I've realized now (and am slowly coming to peace with), the fact that no matter what you say to convince these people in debates. The Narrative will always prevail. The Narrative based on Cold Hard Facts and Research (usually videos of minorities committing crimes) The Narrative that proves that YOU are objectively right and THEY Irrational and going purely by emotion and Marxist/"Anti-White" Brainwashing
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# ¿ Jul 7, 2015 15:41 |
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From my school courtyard
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2015 14:19 |
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Popular Thug Drink posted:lmao what kind of racist goes to georgia state You'd be surprised...
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2015 18:09 |
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Weldon Pemberton posted:The fact that black IQ has been rising since the inception of records (and is rising more quickly lately) and that violent crime has fallen dramatically across all racial groups is also irrelevant. A Very Special Type Of Person would retort that by mentioning the number of African Americans with mixed DNA, and then go from there so sayeth The Narrative
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2015 19:46 |
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Gum posted:There's also a very good reason why the 1950s is often citied as the decade when everything was better Ok, what's the reason? Forgive if I'm coming off as a smartass as that's not my intent. I'm curious how.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2015 21:32 |
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Bob le Moche posted:They're angry that things aren't going their way and they will blame literally everything else in the world for it (women, foreigners, gays, leftists, etc) except the white men who own and control everything. They hate democracy, and anything standing the way of the ruling class imposing their absolute will and total control, or any form of resistance by those below them. The white men at the top are strong and enlightened and blessed with the truth and anyone who opposes them is an irrational cancer on the purity of western society. Wow, I really feel like this hit the nail on the proverbial head. That makes it all the more depressing This thread has been very cathartic for me so, as I'm extremely sensitive to this subject. I would LIKE to keep it open, because I feel like there's plenty more that could be said but if any of you guys are tired of it let me know. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jul 27, 2015 |
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katlington posted:Please link it, all i found was a podcast and this: http://therightstuff.biz/2015/07/23/cuckservatives-trump-and-the-future-of-the-west/ For a second there I thought that was from Stuff Black People Don't Like. google that yourself, i will not darken this thread's proverbial door mentioning paul kersey (not the character, but the creator of the site... yeah..)
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2015 03:40 |
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Wanderer posted:Sure. ever come across something so bizarre reading other commenters followers?
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2015 18:19 |
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anime avatar i EDIT: Anyway, what's always astonished me about the "Alternative" Right is cognitive dissonance that a majority of them seem to share. For example this individual. http://angrywhitedude.com/2013/01/on-race-realism-and-white-supremacism/ quote:
He seems to be against being called Nazi or even remotely related to Fascism and then i come across this http://angrywhitedude.com/2014/07/preemptive-abortion/ quote:Way back when, I did a little series called “Putting the Toothpaste Back in the Tube“, with a controversial post on contra-dysgenics. The idea (and no, it’s certainly not a novel nor untested idea) was to implement sterilization of convicted felons (and maybe even welfare recipients). I called this “contra-dysgenics” in an effort to do two things: one, emphasize that it’s designed to combat active dysgenic policies of our current government, and, two, to given some distance from the word “eugenics”, which conjures up all sorts of Nazi analogies. How does he not see that forced birth control is an inherently Fascist concept? Or am i wrong? Please correct me if so. http://angrywhitedude.com/2012/05/putting-the-toothpaste-back-in-the-tube-chapter-9-contra-dysgenics/ quote:Yes, Hitler ruined the brand. Get over it. The fact is we’ve been on a dysgenic trend for some time (over a hundred years? Hundreds of years?), and, as we all know, that’s taken a precipitous turn for the worse since the start of our immigration nightmare in 1965—so it’s high time we revive the lost-art of culling the herd. BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Aug 3, 2015 |
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Guavanaut posted:The NRx Overton window: its nothing short of amazing to me how SBPDL manages to slip by undetected of even the most far right NRx's That dude is probably the furthest NRx you'll find (yeah i know i broke my "promise" of mentioning him, but gently caress it ) BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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Merdifex posted:Aside from this supposed butthole, which I thankfully didn't see, I'm looking forward to him proving that he isn't racist. http://magic-masochist.tumblr.com/tagged/racist plz make a tag for that link yea thx
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2015 15:48 |
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Merdifex posted:Aside from this supposed butthole, which I thankfully didn't see, I'm looking forward to him proving that he isn't racist. http://magic-masochist.tumblr.com/tagged/racist i loving love /pol/'s whole "being sarcastic and at the same time" shtick seems like tumblr is finally being overran by edgebros BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Guavanaut posted:but sometimes ironic racism can work. any examples please?
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2015 11:01 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycLMPS5MPX4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW6P5yCGpKQ ramzpaul is one of the best
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# ¿ Dec 26, 2015 23:26 |
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/pol/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJYVtPLDY80 edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46kPhDAKEnY editx2: OOHHH. Turns out this is TheRightStuff guy BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 29, 2015 |
# ¿ Dec 29, 2015 19:21 |
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Trending in Atlanta Twitter (of all places...) #FactsArentRacist edit: this account is adorable BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 07:11 on Jan 3, 2016 |
# ¿ Jan 3, 2016 07:08 |
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http://www.somethingawful.com/news/black-teens-knockout/ i just want to say I've LITERALLY come across blogs that were written just like this article unironically
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2016 08:41 |
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https://twitter.com/Thug_Violence PoesLaw.jpg
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2016 22:46 |
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Cingulate posted:I'm not saying I could do much better, but the current attempts ITT to "understand the psychology of HBD etc" are bad. Or rather, they're not really attempts to do that in the first place. For that, one would have to either try and see it from the inside - gah! - show some empathy with them; or look at some actual sociological data. Numbers may become involved even. ok, I'll bite: Empathy how, exactly? Would you mean in terms of "Imagining being white while walking downtown in the middle of the night"? Please post an example of sociological data you deem valid for this thread.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2016 20:41 |
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Cingulate posted:In the sense of I must ask, how is this any different from what I just said? BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jan 10, 2016 |
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Cingulate posted:Was that seriously your best attempt at an insight view into "HBD" etc people? I can only go by what I see online, and for the most part it seems to me a great majority of them fear what I just said (usually they fear their children in that particular situation), their jobs being "stolen" from certain types of individuals who didn't "work hard enough", and the country descending into chaos and disarray (which some of them believe has already occurred)
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# ¿ Jan 10, 2016 19:17 |
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Woolie Wool posted:Is there a word filter for that word now? That's awesome. Filter for what word?
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# ¿ Jan 28, 2016 16:50 |
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Cingulate seems like the type of guy who posts in the hell-thread regularly and thinks he's the smartest guy in the room
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2016 22:55 |
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hahahahaha https://twitter.com/pinchicagoo this HAS to be a troll account
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2016 20:43 |
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check this edgelord right here https://twitter.com/TheeCurrentYear/status/708755396354244609
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2016 03:03 |
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WELP GUYS I'VE FINALLY GOT FAMOUS http://somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=2101.msg237752#msg237752 Put lead in Kyankas head posted:Alright I think this thread is fun: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3728924] I'm telling everyone! :-) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2016 07:51 |
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Questions Skeptics Have For The Alt Right does this count as necro-posting? Let me know to close the thread
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