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Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

MagicMasochist posted:

Before I moved to 'the hood' in San Diego I was basically terrified of being called a racist. After being jumped and robbed multiple times, never by whites, I don't mind being called a racist. I attribute the violence of some non-whites toward me as part of their tribal nature, which seems alien and strange to me, because I don't really belong to any tribe.

So what's a "tribal nature"?

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Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Merdifex posted:

Assuming that this is his tumblr, this is an amusing jerk-off he saw fit to post:


EDIT: I hope this isn't him.

If it is, he's really, really upset about feminism, what a shock.

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Dec 14, 2015

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Jack Gladney posted:

Also the Columbine shooters, who idolized Hitler.

are you talking about magic-masochist? he's also following a tumblr called mr-wants-bbc that's nothing but pictures of black guys' penises and interracial porn.

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Dec 14, 2015

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Ddraig posted:

Seeing as how they don't usually let the royal babies be seen until their carapace can take root he may be right about more things yet.

e: David Icke is actually quite interesting since his beliefs have been taken on by a lot of white nationalists who believe that when he's talking about the world leaders actually being lizards in human form they think that he is naturally referring to the Jews.

Even Icke has distanced himself from this by saying "No, when I say they're giant lizards in human skin suits I mean they are literally giant lizards in human skin suits"

He's made some remarks in his books that suggest he's being metaphorical, but in the sense of "they represent the evil and despair that we're all capable of, and we can defeat them by loving one another" sort of way. He's not exactly clear about it, though. But he's honestly not using them as a metaphor for Jewish people.

Guavanaut posted:

And he ended up being right about a couple of things by sheer volume.

I think what happened with that was that people who knew what was going on/were survivors of it were willing to tell anyone who would listen, and conspiracy circles were happy to listen, because it can intersect with all sorts of conspiracies, so...

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Cingulate posted:

... And the interesting question is, what makes one specifically buy into DE or HBD, and not into regular run-of-the-mill redneck racism or oldstyle libertarianism or regular conservativism.

Because you've adopted "nerd" as part of your identity, that's it.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Cingulate posted:

That would not be a satisfying explanation to me.

If it is to you, well, thread's basically over then right?

I mean, what do you think it is? Personally I think the only difference between these people and "redneck racists" is that these people think they're superior to the later because they think of themselves very smart, academic, and scientific, and so they use rhetoric that jives with that, but at heart it's the same old poo poo.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Number Two Stunna posted:

If you guys want to understand these guys, why don't you go to one of their subreddits/forums and ask them what they're all about? :confused:

This thread is just a bunch of circle-jerking about how awful people who have right-wing opinions are.

Do you think there's something they're about that this thread has missed?

And while I think "right-wing" is too broad a characterization for the people and ideas this thread is about, I would say that mockery is a good and healthy reaction to things that are repugnant.

Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Maoist Pussy posted:

OK, sure, but some social changes should be campaigned against and some shouldn't. Racism, for instance, is insupportable and should never have existed, whereas counternarratives on gender and culture and capitalism are certainly possible.

I think you'll find that the overlap between people who aren't racist and also think gender equality has gone too far and want gay people to go back in the closet is vanishingly small. "Let's roll back decades of progress for everyone who isn't a straight man -- but also black people are ok," isn't a popular position and you may want to consider why.

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Sharkie
Feb 4, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Maoist Pussy posted:

Its a pretty popular opinion amongst, for instance, black people.

Oh? http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2016/02/26/3753739/prri-black-homophobia-myth/



quote:

Support for marriage equality was a bit low among Black Protestants, with only 38 percent supporting and 54 percent opposing. But on the other two measures, Black Protestants overwhelmingly supported LGBT equality. They favored nondiscrimination laws 64-31, and on the question of religious refusals, black respondents actually opposed exemptions at higher rates than any other racial group, including white respondents:

and

quote:

Dr. Robert Jones, CEO of PRRI, told ThinkProgress that even on the question of marriage equality, black Protestants are more ambivalent than white evangelical Protestants, who oppose same-sex marriage at much higher rates.

And this is before unpacking the unstated divide you draw between "black people" and "women and lgbt people," the long history of black feminism, etc.

edit - At any rate, the people campaigning against the counternarratives are overwhelmingly white, and within the so-called dark enlightenment or alt-right, very racist. What would be more relevant to the thread is you laying out what "narratives" about gender you think should be campaigned against and why.

Sharkie fucked around with this message at 09:24 on May 2, 2016

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