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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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de la peche posted:

I can't be bothered to bang on about it, but the last Dark Tower book was absolute loving bullshit. Stephen King finished an epic set of books written over 20 years, with over 4,200 pages with what amounts to no resolution. That's some blue balls right there.

I liked the final final ending bit.

Everything else was dumb.

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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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This is pretty much what I need to know about Ready Player One.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71VFzClEoG0

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Aug 13, 2011

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pentyne posted:

I almost got physically sick trying to listen to that. Who the gently caress are the morons raving about how great it is? It's tv tropes the book.

And Spielberg is making it into a movie? Ugh, that dialogue is going to be painful.

Well to be fair, Jaws is a bad book and Jurassic Park is a Michael Crichton novel. Maybe he'll squeeze blood from a stone again?

I mean, he probably won't, because Peak Spielberg is a while past, but still.

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Aug 13, 2011

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divabot posted:

The 2016 Hugos need a Euthanised Puppies slate with this book five times in every category. (Maybe he could retitle it No Award.)

Let's be honest here, this person is on about the same level as Vox Day.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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I kind of want to read Psycho Squad now, drat you.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Nanomashoes posted:

It's not a complementary thread.

I don't think the thread being complimentary is the reason he doesn't want to go there.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Ambitious Spider posted:

Firefly by piers Anthony. It isn't so much a horror novel as it is a defense of pedophilia

Piers Anthony is cheating.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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When I was a teenager, I read a YA dystopian novel about a future America where everyone was obsessed with safety. Everyone had to take pills to calm their negative emotions, and sports were played at a leisurely pace, and they'd renamed the USA the "Safer States Of America". The protagonist didn't take his drugs to get ahead in a race, so he had to go to a prison camp where he has to face the threat of polar bears, but learns to play American football the way it used to be played, and finally finds true happiness. All this was presented basically entirely straight-faced.

Weirdest old-man rant book I ever saw.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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GOTTA STAY FAI posted:

Rash by Pete Hautman. A weird and bad book.

I read another book by him that got a lot of praise. As far as I could tell, the praise came from it saying "teenagers doubt their religion sometimes" and then not really going anywhere or saying anything after that.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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SirPhoebos posted:

[*]The Bounty Hunter Wars Trilogy, a convoluted mess with more backstabs than a game of Diplomacy, plus a guide that replaced his head with a laser cannon.
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I read these! I remember there was a giant spider guy I liked, and that was about it.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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Also this is a good article

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Aug 13, 2011

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HPMOR is so bad that I am unable to read even takedowns of it, so awful are the quoted excerpts.

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Aug 13, 2011

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swamp waste posted:

Sometimes I wonder if the main reason to become a writer is because you're a bitter and powerless little turd and the idea of recreating the universe through the prism of your own dumb ego is too appealing to pass up. And the only way anything truly good ever gets written is when someone, almost by accident, captures something real in enough detail and beauty and ambiguity that it transcends its usefulness to their story and touches ur heart. It's hard to read Dante or like, The Bible, and not think this

What if we are all bitter and powerless little turds

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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Eragon is terrible. It's disgusting that you could rip off Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress so blatantly

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Aug 13, 2011

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When I was a teenage nerd, I had people lecture me on how much worse the movie was, because it left out awesome power armor.

Then I went and read the book, and it was two chapters of power armor action, followed by five billion pages of lectures on Right Wing Conservatism

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Aug 13, 2011

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InediblePenguin posted:

World War Z was utter loving poo poo. The Survival Guide was stupid and poorly researched to start with, and don't loving try to write in a format where "multiple people are narrating" if you're loving poo poo and can't write in a different voice. Like a bad impressionist who can't change his voice and is like "now I'll be Batman: I am the night! now I'll be a soldier: semper fi herobravery!" in his normal voice but because his dad is a famous comedian everybody keeps going drat HAVE YOU HEARD HIS IMPRESSIONS

Thank you for writing a criticism of World War Z that wasn't AMERICA'S BEST AND BRAVEST WOULDN'T GO DOWN LIKE THAT!!!! OOORAHOOORAHOORAH :911: :911: :911:

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Aug 13, 2011

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Sleeveless posted:

I'm pretty sre that most of the "fans" of WWZ have never actually read the book and are just going off of the title and general "woo zombies :woop:" sentiment before it got run into the loving ground.

I am basing this assumption entirely on fans criticizing the movie version for being "unrealistic" unlike the book. Said book which never really explains the origin or spread of the zombie plague aside from a vague reference to organ black markets and illegal immigrants, skips over the part where zombies go from a thing that exists to a global pandemic because the author admitted he couldn't think of a way to do it with slow zombies, and has zombies that are effectively magic since they can be frozen solid in winter and them thaw in spring no worse for wear, walk across the bottom of the ocean in defiance of pressure that would destroy a human body, and have limbs that remain animated after being cut off as of they have minds of their own.

Also all the goofy comic-book poo poo like Japan being kept safe by blind samurai and their otaku protégé. But it's presented as an oral history so it's totally grounded!


Him making the soldiers be so comically ineffective at Yonkers was just as masturbatory as any :911: right-wing military fiction since it was only there to continue his faux-populist narrative with the nerdy armchair generals know more than the real thing and are stuck shaking their heads and clicking their tongues when they're proven right.

The whole book has this whole juvenile "NO YOU SHUT THE gently caress UP DAD" attitude where everybody in power is incompetent and stupid and nerds are all rad under-appreciated geniuses and since the zombie wasteland is a perfect meritocracy the cool nerds get to run things while the old guard ia relegated to (literal) poo poo-shovelers and the suburban dads die in the woods because they don't even know what kind of sleeping bag is the right one.

I hate having to break this to you, but books and movies aren't real life.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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The only time I've seen a book do that and have it work is The Horrible Thing Eric Saw in the Wasp Factory.

I don't even like thinking about that chapter.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Is that what made you the saddest rhino?

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Aug 13, 2011

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Can we go back to discussing nice pleasant non-horrifying things like Piers Anthony books please?

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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I'm pre-emptively declaring the new movie a failure if it renders all this non-canon.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Beardless posted:

They already did. Pretty much the entire Star Wars expanded universe is now "Legends", and it's not going to have any bearing on the new movies, or any of the new books or comics that are coming out.

That joke just flew miles above your head, huh

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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I like to imagine there's just a really big stupid Laserblast expanded universe in that reality.

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Aug 13, 2011

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The word nihilism, appropriately enough, does not mean anything.

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Aug 13, 2011

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iirc, the Karen Traviss thing got dicy because nerds being nerds, they just had to bring her gender into it.

She is a pretty bad writer though, but it's not like Star Wars and Gears of War tie-in fiction is a hallowed genre.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Ambitious Spider posted:

I got an autographed copy for Christmas. I didn't start it because I'm tired of fantasy series not being finished but hearing this I might not start at all

I am having the alternate experience and want to crack open my copy just to see how long I can stand it.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Sleeveless posted:

Did you even read the post you were replying to.

When it comes to popular authors Crichton may have been a nutjob and King may have ended a book dedicated to his son with a preteen sewer gangbang, but nobody can touch Dean Koontz's creepy love affair with golden retrievers.

Now that's just an outright lie.

The preteen sewer gangbang was halfway through the book, get it right.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Klaus88 posted:

Can anyone explain why rape pops up to often in bad genre fiction to a clueless idiot? :froggonk:

It's a cheap shock. You don't have to be good at writing to make people think that a rape is evil or scary so hack writers use it the way hack horror uses jump scares.

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Aug 13, 2011

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The Saddest Rhino posted:

my fav thing is OSC being accused of writing Ender's Game as :godwin: Hitler apologia http://peachfront.diaryland.com/enderhitlte.html

I never took it that seriously, but it's fun to spread around given what an absolute cock OSC is.

Sort of like how that essay about Harry Potter being Calvinist is going to get a lot more play if JK Rowling suddenly joins one of Britain's white supremacist fascist parties.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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Man, I forgot to bring my lotion, don't hold a circlejerk without me!

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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My beef is that the "my sweet nerd hero owns those sociologists" part of Cryptonomicon is one of the worst things I've ever read, and I've read Dune prequels.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Alter Ego posted:

I tried to read this series and could not bring myself to read the second book after slogging through the first. The entire last quarter of it is torture porn. It was loving unbearable.

Also "Darken Rahl". I want to know the thought process that created that name.

The best part of it is that Richard takes to wearing an instrument of torture around his neck as a symbol of resilience or something.

The very same, instrument, incidentally, that a dominatrix shoved up his rear end.

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Aug 13, 2011

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22 Eargesplitten posted:

He murders a crowd of protesting pacifists because they support the bad guys. This is portrayed as a good thing.

iirc it's some contrived ticking time bomb scenario and the supporting the bad guys thing is only secondary. Still hosed up though

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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These people are all imaginary. This did not happen. Stephenson created this scenario.

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Aug 13, 2011

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Klaus88 posted:

Wrong, this is the neckbeardiest book.



Girls, girls, you're both pretty

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Post Your Favorite (or Request) > PYF terrible book as long as it was written by Ernest Cline

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Aug 13, 2011

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The Saddest Rhino posted:

ignoring the tribute to the 80s (it was acceptable in the 80s; it was acceptable at the time) of Cline's novels, reading the summaries of RP1 and Armada really reminded me of the books by Stephen Gould.
thats all

For a second I was worried you were talking about the other Stephen Gould and we were going to get a lecture on the merits of the Bell Curve.

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Aug 13, 2011

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divabot posted:

Authors like Brian Herbert, Christopher Tolkein et al got started by (a) picking the right genes (b) calling Kevin J. Anderson (c) calling for MORE COKE! AND HOOKERS!

Doesn't Christopher Tolkien just publish his father's library of old notes?

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Aug 13, 2011

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Someone should do one of those readthroughs of the Brian Herbert dunebooks, because they are super-dumb in ways that are kind of interesting.

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Aug 13, 2011

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muscles like this? posted:

I like how in the first prequel book he wrote he gave the Harkonnens no-ship technology, which wouldn't exist in universe for thousands of years. Also the Baron was fat because Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam hypnotized him to overeat.

I know, right?

Also remember how it was mention that Paul's grandfather got gored by a bull? In the prequels, they changed it into an insect space bull, because :krad:

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