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A great jump scare happens in Absentia When the pregnant wife is talking to her cop boyfriend (and it dawns on the viewer that he got her pregnant), when she says goodbye to him and closes the door her missing husband's ghost(?) is standing behind the door and says "I know what you did."
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Alhazred posted:he gave the Warrens a soapbox in the form of the movie the Conjuring, but he's not a terrible director. The movie was p good though.
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Jul 18, 2015 20:12
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Groovelord Neato posted:The movie was p good though. if you ignore the message it is.
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Jul 18, 2015 20:45
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JFK is a more damaging film than the Conjuring could ever hope to be and plenty of peeps in this subforum defended it.
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Jul 18, 2015 20:46
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Groovelord Neato posted:JFK is a more damaging film than the Conjuring could ever hope to be and plenty of peeps in this subforum defended it. So? It still doesn't make the message of the Conjuring any better.
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Jul 18, 2015 21:48
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And what message is that?
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Jul 18, 2015 22:15
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That jumpscares are good.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:25
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Jenny Angel posted:That jumpscares are good. Ah, plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose, as the Greeks used to say.
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Jul 18, 2015 22:31
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The Conjuring would be way less enjoyable if it wasn't as sweet as it was.
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Jul 19, 2015 00:25
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The part that scared me the most in the Conjuring doesn't have the chord until after the thing actually happens.
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Jul 19, 2015 00:29
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Hat Thoughts posted:The Conjuring would be way less enjoyable if it wasn't as sweet as it was. Again, a bizarre R rating for a movie as dangerously cheesy as Chester Cheetah.
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Jul 19, 2015 01:07
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Alhazred posted:if you ignore the message it is. That ghosts are spooky? because they kinda are.
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Jul 19, 2015 02:57
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Groovelord Neato posted:JFK is a more damaging film than the Conjuring could ever hope to be and plenty of peeps in this subforum defended it. Why JFK?
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Jul 19, 2015 03:18
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I rage quit horror after watching Japanese version of Dark Water. The movie builds up to the eventual confrontation and then the mother saves the wrong kid and there is this quick and only cut of the ghost's face . Scarred me. I have been dragged a few times since, and the only other jumps are I remember since is in Sunshine. When they find and explore the first ship, cutting to an extreme close up of the crew's smiling faces when light hits the camera. That one really creeped me out.
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Jul 19, 2015 03:32
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Lord Krangdar posted:Why JFK? Because people like to stick it with the fact that it helped repopularize myths about the JFK assassination, despite the fact that it's a film about the mythologization of JFK's assassination, which had never really gone away to begin with.
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Yaws posted:And what message is that?
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Lord Krangdar posted:Why JFK? Practically everything in it is wrong (except for JFK being assassinated) and it either reinforced or introduced to a new audience the myth that Oswald didn't act alone. HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Because people like to stick it with the fact that it helped repopularize myths about the JFK assassination, despite the fact that it's a film about the mythologization of JFK's assassination, which had never really gone away to begin with. Don't do this. Oliver Stone created the movie as a rebuttal to the Warren Report. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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Jul 19, 2015 14:43
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Groovelord Neato posted:Don't do this. Oliver Stone created the movie as a rebuttal to the Warren Report. Vincent Bugliosi (Reclaiming History) and books like Case Closed fought the good fight. Seemingly every other book following the Warren Report, and we're talking immediately after down to the present day, from semi-sane stuff like Mortal Error to bugfuck nonsense like, I dunno, Killing Kennedy is some kind of weird rebuttal to the Warren Report. I can't stand 9/11 conspiracy theories and theorists but I think it is even arguable that Loose Change "repopularized" the 9/11 myths, because to do so would be shortchanging the whole cottage industry that has sprung up around perpetuating that particular conspiracy theory.
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Jul 19, 2015 15:23
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CrowsNestMutineer posted:The best crafted jump scare I've ever seen is in Audition. That scene is amazing, and Audition is one of the best horror films I've ever seen. The tone shift in the film makes everything so much more unsettling when it arrives. Though honestly I never need or want to see it again. Once was enough.
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Artelier posted:... I have been dragged a few times since, and the only other jumps are I remember since is in Sunshine. When they find and explore the first ship, cutting to an extreme close up of the crew's smiling faces when light hits the camera. That one really creeped me out. Those are terrific, especially since the content isn't scary it's the context of it. No loud banging noises, either. Shame about the third act turning into a slasher flick.
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Jul 19, 2015 23:48
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Casimir Radon posted:The Woman in Black from a few years ago relied pretty heavily on jumpscares. Of course this was pretty well mixed with a sense of dread that lingered throughout the whole film, and you're kept on edge most of the time because you're expecting the movie to jump you again any moment now. What made The Woman In Black feel effective to me is how much time the character spent in the background. The jump scares stood out because the Woman In Black spends so much time just lurking within view of the audience (but not the protagonists) that when she does appear suddenly it's jarring.
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Jump scares are blood.
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Jump scares are blood. Why do people say this, though?
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Mormon Star Wars posted:What made The Woman In Black feel effective to me is how much time the character spent in the background. The jump scares stood out because the Woman In Black spends so much time just lurking within view of the audience (but not the protagonists) that when she does appear suddenly it's jarring. The woman in black at the theatre (stage theatre, not movie) is the only time I've ever jumped at something on stage. Fantastic.
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The one jumpscare that got me every time was that moment in Child's Play where Andy's mom opens Chucky's battery compartment, and at the perfect moment he swivels his head 360 degrees with that creepy electronic doll voice. I hated that moment so much that I'd always skip it or mute it when I rewatched. I rewatched it recently and actually sat through that part, and it's not as startling anymore but it's still pretty effective. The original Child's Play, for as dumb as the premise is, is actually a pretty good horror movie. It works because the focus isn't really on the killer doll, it's the fact that a deranged killer has infiltrated a family's home with the perfect disguise, and nobody believes in the threat until it's too late.
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King Vidiot posted:I rewatched it recently and actually sat through that part, and it's not as startling anymore but it's still pretty effective. The original Child's Play, for as dumb as the premise is, is actually a pretty good horror movie. It works because the focus isn't really on the killer doll, it's the fact that a deranged killer has infiltrated a family's home with the perfect disguise, and nobody believes in the threat until it's too late. Much like many other horror movies, the numerous sequels kinda diluted the brilliance of the original in the eyes of the public. The first movie was pretty well received by critics at the time and is generally regarded as a classic now. I hear Curse of Chucky, which went straight to video is surprisingly excellent though.
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CrowsNestMutineer posted:The best crafted jump scare I've ever seen is in Audition. I think people don't understand what a jump scare is. Jump scares are almost always attacking the camera/the viewer for some reason and have the play this god awful loud sounds to show you it is scary. It is literally like the laugh track for scares. Something moving in the screen is like a normal scare. Jump scares are jumping at you.
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Jul 21, 2015 23:25
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King Vidiot posted:The one jumpscare that got me every time was that moment in Child's Play where Andy's mom opens Chucky's battery compartment, and at the perfect moment he swivels his head 360 degrees with that creepy electronic doll voice. I hated that moment so much that I'd always skip it or mute it when I rewatched. Like Tenzarin touches on above, this isn't a jump scare.
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You know what could work well in a slasher film. If you had a scene fairly early in the film where the main character is investigating something spooky and the eerie music starts and of course the audience expects it to be the typical fake jumpscare where it's just a cat or even the wacky friend or douchy boyfriend playing a trick. But it would actually be the killer and the main character would be killed unceremoniously like 15 minutes in. Someone has probably already done this.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Like Tenzarin touches on above, this isn't a jump scare. Except it is, we see the doll from the mom's POV and it's centered in the frame up-close. There is a very fast and sudden movement of the head while the doll's voice box screams at the mother (and by extension us in the audience). Chucky doesn't have to literally leap into frame for it to be a jump scare, it's a jump scare because it's a sudden movement and loud noise meant to startle the audience (or make them "jump"). Tenzarin's post was about a scene where something in the background of the frame moves, and not even that suddenly. Not the same thing.
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FreudianSlippers posted:You know what could work well in a slasher film. If you had a scene fairly early in the film where the main character is investigating something spooky and the eerie music starts and of course the audience expects it to be the typical fake jumpscare where it's just a cat or even the wacky friend or douchy boyfriend playing a trick. But it would actually be the killer and the main character would be killed unceremoniously like 15 minutes in. Psycho, sort of.
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King Vidiot posted:Except it is, we see the doll from the mom's POV and it's centered in the frame up-close. There is a very fast and sudden movement of the head while the doll's voice box screams at the mother (and by extension us in the audience). Chucky doesn't have to literally leap into frame for it to be a jump scare, it's a jump scare because it's a sudden movement and loud noise meant to startle the audience (or make them "jump"). Highly doubt Chucky has a jump scare, its a technique that is kinda modern.
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Tenzarin posted:Highly doubt Chucky has a jump scare, its a technique that is kinda modern. ...what. Jump scares have been around since forever, I can't pinpoint the exact horror movie or year but I'd say since at least the 1970's. And "jump scare" doesn't mean something literally jumps, it's just a phrase that means it makes the audience startled or jump in their seats. It's a sudden, unexpected event in a horror movie that's usually punctuated with a loud noise from something onscreen or else a soundtrack cue like a music sting.
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Jul 22, 2015 16:44
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King Vidiot posted:...what. Psycho definitely had one with the private detective who got murdered on the staircase. Oh and the whole mother reveal at the end too.
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I'm not sure how accurate this is to say but I think most horror before Psycho had been heavily inspired by German Expressionism, and those films were more atmospheric than suspenseful.
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King Vidiot posted:...what. It is more of a trend of really lovely movies using to make them appear as a horror movie. IE Lady in Black, The Conjuring, The Oculus. Its not called a jump scare because you jump. Jump is being used as a adjective, it is describing the scare, not the viewer. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 22, 2015 |
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Tenzarin posted:It is more of a trend of really lovely movies using to make them appear as a horror movie. IE Lady in Black, The Conjuring, The Oculus. Hmmm, people really do have different ideas about what jump scares are I guess. I always thought the "jump" in jump scare referred to the viewer physically jumping a little bit out of the seat. Its like a spice, to be used with restraint. Used in the right way and in the correct doses a jumpscare can be worthwhile even in a quality horror film.
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Basebf555 posted:Hmmm, people really do have different ideas about what jump scares are I guess. I always thought the "jump" in jump scare referred to the viewer physically jumping a little bit out of the seat. When I go to comedies, I love that they make me Smile Laugh. So much better then regular laughs.
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Jul 22, 2015 17:50
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Tenzarin posted:When I go to comedies, I love that they make me Smile Laugh. So much better then regular laughs. Yes, that's a degree of laughter, much like being so scared you jump out of your seat is a degree.
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computer parts posted:Yes, that's a degree of laughter, much like being so scared you jump out of your seat is a degree. Jump scares arn't actually scary, they invoke a startle response. That's like being surprised during a reflex test.
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