- Homura and Sickle
- Apr 21, 2013
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More than 42 MILLION Muslims 'support ISIS'
Also that Pew poll again, in case anybody forgot
Huge majorities of most Muslim nations have loathsome, pre-modern views and social practices. Obfuscating that fact because it somehow proves ISIS right is every bit as "unhelpful" as drawing Mohammad cartoons supposedly is. How the gently caress do you extend the benefit of the doubt to someone who supports ISIS? There's precious little room to misunderstand what it's about. I understand that it isn't practical to kill everyone who holds such beliefs, but the least that can be done is to stop them and those with similar goals (Al Qaeda, the Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram, etc.) from being able to hold power anywhere.
Despite all of the historical debate and back-and-forth over the nature of religious authenticity, I think the real bone of contention in the debates this thread was created to contain is about systems of law and government. To the extent that 'the west' is waging war against a genericized Islamic civilization, it isn't actually about changing the specifics of their scripture or doctrine. It is about changing the enforceability of that scripture, whether de jure or by community action. But on that specific issue, a modern post-Enlightenment society absolutely cannot and should not compromise. No meaningful social advancement is possible in the 21st century so long as any religious body has censorial power over the public square. Period. This issue was actually quite hard fought in the early years of the United States, and if secularism had lost out to the congregationalists, we would all (Americans and non-Americans) be extremely sorry.
bwaahahahahahahaha you unironically cited the people who made this:
ahahahaaha oh man. A good post
edit: You probably weren't alive in 2008, so that was a propaganda DVD the Clarion Project (the wisened pollsters that published this data through one of the UK's white supremacist tabloids) mailed to voters in the United States in an attempt to secure the presidency for John McCain.
edit 2: Now that this thread exists please only post here l33t and never post in m/e again tia
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- Homura and Sickle
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One thing I am curious about, are the Druze considered to be muslims? or are they viewed as a completely separate religion in the Islamic world?
Yeah they're sui generis
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Jul 5, 2015 22:20
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No mistake, there are lots of assholes in the US armed with guns and bombs who will happily kill people for bigoted reasons.
However... most of them (not all, most) are not acting on behalf of an aspiring state actor.
https://www.gop.com/
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