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reformed bad troll posted:I have read this whole thread in the space of an hour and I must state my disgust at arguably the worst thread in the history of TRP. Well what's your suggestion then?
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Forbid league structures that only allow promotion depending on playoffs. A team can top one of La Liga Segunda B's four subdivisions for years but get consistently passed over b/c they're not up for a "cup final" as well as having to top the league. Compare that to non-league where the subdivision winner goes up *and* there are playoffs for the runner-ups. Edit: while we're on a La Liga tip, ban the use of reserve teams down in the league pyramid 
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Oct 15, 2015 00:06
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jyrka posted:Well what's your suggestion then? Eat the munchy box.
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Oct 15, 2015 03:27
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DEAD MAN'S SHOE posted:Edit: while we're on a La Liga tip, ban the use of reserve teams down in the league pyramid Why? Seems like a pretty good way to introduce youth player into adult football.
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Oct 15, 2015 06:54
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jyrka posted:Why? Seems like a pretty good way to introduce youth player into adult football. It's also a good way for more entrenched teams to use their financial clout to lord it over those without, alienate participants in smaller leagues, and ruin the atmosphere. You might as well let big teams buy out smaller ones to be used as feeder clubs. Why not benefit all existing parties and put them out on loan instead?
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Oct 15, 2015 08:19
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DEAD MAN'S SHOE posted:It's also a good way for more entrenched teams to use their financial clout to lord it over those without, alienate participants in smaller leagues, and ruin the atmosphere. You might as well let big teams buy out smaller ones to be used as feeder clubs. Why not benefit all existing parties and put them out on loan instead? I thought no one liked loans any more.
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Oct 15, 2015 08:21
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jyrka posted:Well what's your suggestion then? What's wrong with it as it is now?
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Oct 15, 2015 10:14
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more electrocution https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuKva8GUwBk&t=100s
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Oct 15, 2015 15:07
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you're not allowed to support a team unless you sign up to an obligatory big brother little brother scheme where a seasoned veteran teaches you all the chants and all the memes to ensure the right and proper legacy lives on. we must protect our children from undesirables.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:31
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8raz posted:you're not allowed to support a team unless you sign up to an obligatory big brother little brother scheme where a seasoned veteran teaches you all the chants and all the memes to ensure the right and proper legacy lives on. we must protect our children from undesirables. We don't give a crud.
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Oct 15, 2015 16:52
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I've been thinking about it and I'm now sure that having reserve teams in the league system is better than having the youngsters away on loan. It keeps the players with the team who is interested in developing them(rather than save a poo poo team from getting relegated from League 1) and it keeps them close to the main team and they could get a few matches here and there. Only downside I can think is it will look a bit silly having Chelsea win the Premiership and Chelsea 2 win the Championship.
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Oct 21, 2015 10:21
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jyrka posted:I've been thinking about it and I'm now sure that having reserve teams in the league system is better than having the youngsters away on loan. It keeps the players with the team who is interested in developing them(rather than save a poo poo team from getting relegated from League 1) and it keeps them close to the main team and they could get a few matches here and there. Only downside I can think is it will look a bit silly having Chelsea win the Premiership and Chelsea 2 win the Championship. This but Sunday league pub teams
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Oct 21, 2015 10:38
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jyrka posted:I've been thinking about it and I'm now sure that having reserve teams in the league system is better than having the youngsters away on loan. It keeps the players with the team who is interested in developing them(rather than save a poo poo team from getting relegated from League 1) and it keeps them close to the main team and they could get a few matches here and there. Only downside I can think is it will look a bit silly having Chelsea win the Premiership and Chelsea 2 win the Championship. Instead of "Big Team B" in the lower leagues, make it so that Big Team can sign "reserve contracts" with one Small Team per league (so could be just one or could be one per division) and give them money and loan players in exchange of them giving play experience to said players. This would be a win-win imo and could allow Chelsea to own 500 players but all of them get playing time and small teams benefit from dirty oil money.
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Oct 21, 2015 16:21
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Simone Poodoin posted:Instead of "Big Team B" in the lower leagues, make it so that Big Team can sign "reserve contracts" with one Small Team per league (so could be just one or could be one per division) and give them money and loan players in exchange of them giving play experience to said players. This would be a win-win imo and could allow Chelsea to own 500 players but all of them get playing time and small teams benefit from dirty oil money. This is actually a pretty good idea.
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Oct 21, 2015 16:30
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Simone Poodoin posted:Instead of "Big Team B" in the lower leagues, make it so that Big Team can sign "reserve contracts" with one Small Team per league (so could be just one or could be one per division) and give them money and loan players in exchange of them giving play experience to said players. This would be a win-win imo and could allow Chelsea to own 500 players but all of them get playing time and small teams benefit from dirty oil money. This is the type of relationship a lot of MLS teams have with USL teams (although there are some "Team B/II" teams in USL also).
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Oct 21, 2015 16:35
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It's the old feeder-parent club thing, innit. I think for whatever reason it's been mostly stopped. I know Vitesse are tied to Chelsea right now and the fans aren't liking it much.
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Simone Poodoin posted:Instead of "Big Team B" in the lower leagues, make it so that Big Team can sign "reserve contracts" with one Small Team per league (so could be just one or could be one per division) and give them money and loan players in exchange of them giving play experience to said players. This would be a win-win imo and could allow Chelsea to own 500 players but all of them get playing time and small teams benefit from dirty oil money. Doesn't Chelsea essentially do this with Vitesse? I feel like it would be bad for fans of the smaller team as they essentially become big teams dumping ground. The "smaller" team should be able to cut ties after an amount of time, at the least. I guess I should make this clearer, I think a scheme like this, while good financially, robs a team of its identity and that sucks. Gigi Galli fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 21, 2015 |
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Oct 21, 2015 16:53
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That's true, I guess there should be restrictions on how many Big Team players can be in the squad and also maybe Big Team can finance the Small Team academy in exchange for first choice or a discount when buying prospects
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Oct 22, 2015 02:54
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I thought about it and I don't like FIFA and UEFA ruling over all football. I think having some competition would be good for football. Some free market capitalism as it were.
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Oct 24, 2015 21:18
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jyrka posted:I thought about it and I don't like FIFA and UEFA ruling over all football. I think having some competition would be good for football. Some free market capitalism as it were. have you considered FIFpro and their recent challenge about the transfer system being a good idea?
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Oct 24, 2015 21:52
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Jose posted:have you considered FIFpro and their recent challenge about the transfer system being a good idea? I have not. But I have reflexively defended the current system. I'm worried about even more power going to the elites and lower level football getting completely killed off. Besides, FIFpro is a scam by some homo Dutch lawyers anyway.
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Oct 24, 2015 22:11
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Just have FIFA overseen by drunk cunts mashing buttons in a pub every week voting on whatever needs to be sorted out at the time
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Oct 25, 2015 03:14
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Ban taking headers. http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/nov/01/football-heading-brain-damage quote:the forces generated by heading back goal-kicks and goalkeeper’s punts were much higher than expected. Some registered at between 50g and 100g – similar to American Football players crashing into each other or punches thrown by boxers. What’s more, as Nauman explains: “The percentages of 100g hits was effectively the same between women’s college soccer and American Football, which really surprised us. And while American Football players tend to take more hits overall in a given practice session and game, the college soccer players were getting hit every day and so it evened out.”
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Nov 1, 2015 22:44
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I'd much prefer to ban Americans that go on and on about concussions.
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Nov 1, 2015 22:55
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Prefer that to people who murder their entire family and then themselves. Concussions are serious business and Football is shockingly bad in thier treatment of them. Each game in the top flights should have an independent doctor and if he determines there was a concussion then team gets a free sub but the subbed player is automatically out of the next match.
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Nov 2, 2015 01:06
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Which footballer murdered their entire family and then themselves? Concussions aren't an issue in football.
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Nov 2, 2015 01:09
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only fags care about concussions in sports.
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Nov 2, 2015 02:38
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Put a loving helmet on Costa, nobody wants to see that face
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Nov 2, 2015 04:55
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Concussions don't cause CTE. Steroids and painkillers do. Don't believe the lib media lies. They just want male aggression banned.
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Nov 2, 2015 07:09
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gently caress... Imagine the great contributions to science, art and philosophy we've lost because ex-footballers and NFL players aren't operating at their full potential.
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Nov 2, 2015 07:51
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Taylor Twellman Wore A Bra During The Murders
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Nov 2, 2015 08:51
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Hell, if anything, we should be giving football players more concussions
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LionYeti posted:Prefer that to people who murder their entire family and then themselves. Concussions are serious business and Football is shockingly bad in thier treatment of them. Each game in the top flights should have an independent doctor and if he determines there was a concussion then team gets a free sub but the subbed player is automatically out of the next match. Don't think this is true, do you watch football?
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LionYeti posted:Each game in the top flights should have an independent doctor and if he determines there was a concussion then team gets a free sub but the subbed player is automatically out of the next match. How does the independent doctor rule that there was a concussion, particularly when the research article says that the majority of concussions in football wouldn't be detectable? What happens if a doctor suspects a player has a concussion then later tests show he didn't, does he still have to miss the next game? Does this apply to cup games? What about all the poor lower league footballers who don't get the benefits of this regime, will they be forced to continue going home and murdering their families?
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Skinty McEdger posted:How does the independent doctor rule that there was a concussion, particularly when the research article says that the majority of concussions in football wouldn't be detectable? What happens if a doctor suspects a player has a concussion then later tests show he didn't, does he still have to miss the next game? Does this apply to cup games? What about all the poor lower league footballers who don't get the benefits of this regime, will they be forced to continue going home and murdering their families? It still seems like a good rule, regardless of whether it's going to be effective 100%. If the independent doctor suspects a concussion, take the player off. If it's confirmed, the player can't play for X amount of time. There's no way of applying at every league level, but the (financial) stakes are at their highest at the top levels thus increasing the chance someone will try and play on with a suspected head injury.
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LionYeti posted:Prefer that to people who murder their entire family and then themselves. Concussions are serious business and Football is shockingly bad in thier treatment of them. Each game in the top flights should have an independent doctor and if he determines there was a concussion then team gets a free sub but the subbed player is automatically out of the next match. The gently caress are you on about?
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I think he's talking about the wrestler. You see, when people kill people, it's only because of concussions, and there aren't actually other factors at play. Having said that if that research showing repeated minor impacts including headers are slushing peoples brains has been reviewed and it's good poo poo, then I don't really see how football will avoid at least an independent team doing monthly checkups, and the sooner it decides to do it the less time people can scream about drs giving teams additional subs. If there's a problem, football people should be prepared to address it instead of complaining when non-football people make the changes and inevitably do so in an awful way. Also dr's absolutely need to be able to tell managers to gently caress off because the AVB incident was a loving farce, and glorified PE teachers should not be telling medical professionals what to do.
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Nov 2, 2015 13:38
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sweek0 posted:It still seems like a good rule, regardless of whether it's going to be effective 100%. If the independent doctor suspects a concussion, take the player off. If it's confirmed, the player can't play for X amount of time. This is all well and good until Italian teams start bribing doctors to substitute all the other team's best players.
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I haven't headed a football in years what its like heading the new lighter post-jabulani balls I imagine its like heading a cloud
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Milan's 16 year old goalkeeper knocked out his own center back with his knee last match and the medical response was appropriate and nobody is bitching and moaning about any of it which is why Serie a is good.
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