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ukle posted:Nope. Show is legitimately good, was flaky at times first series but now its full bore 'We are US Navy at all times' and as such all actions when seen in those eyes all make sense.  are ships
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ukle posted:Nope. Show is legitimately good, was flaky at times first series but now its full bore 'We are US Navy at all times' and as such all actions when seen in those eyes all make sense. Sounds like taking the premise that ST:Voyager got completely wrong (ship maintains federation niceties and protocols even when 70,000 light years away) and doubling down on it.
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ashpanash posted:Sounds like taking the premise that ST:Voyager got completely wrong (ship maintains federation niceties and protocols even when 70,000 light years away) and doubling down on it. It's actually more along the lines of the concept that has been floated for a new Star Trek series a couple of times. The idea was to set it in the 26th or 27th century after the Federation has become totally decadent and collapsed. In this period of war and anarchy, a lone Starfleet ship sets off to rebuild the Federation using its "core values". "Star Trek on the ocean" is't far wrong. The Last Ship is basically that show, except with a bunch of jingoistic patriotic stuff mixed in because Murica. I should hate it but  it's pretty well done.
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Aug 17, 2015 15:15
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He really is a kirk stand in than anything he kicks down doors of the bad aliens of the week but up holds the values of the federation I mean the U.S. navy.
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Aug 17, 2015 15:27
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Another ST theme; I was reminded of how impotent photon-torpedo hits look when they're meant to be these devices that vastly outclass nuclear warheads in yield, but seem to just knock over their tea and make Worf look annoyed. That ship should be in pieces. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlpx4DMGzYI Other than that this episode showed promise of some actual good TV. I almost feel like I might unironically recommend it soon!
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Khablam posted:Another ST theme; I was reminded of how impotent photon-torpedo hits look when they're meant to be these devices that vastly outclass nuclear warheads in yield, but seem to just knock over their tea and make Worf look annoyed. But that's only because Australians can actually aim their torpedos. That's pretty cool, though.
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Cap'n McSteamy, Adam Baldwin and Drunk Duck Phillips 'Murica Rhona should have just lied about killing Nils....."DUNNO, HE DIED WHATEVS" Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 02:46
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The fact that they're trying to make me think she feels bad about it is hilarious. We all know Rhona Mitra moisturizes with the blood of her victims.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:06
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:The fact that they're trying to make me think she feels bad about it is hilarious. We all know Rhona Mitra moisturizes with the blood of her victims. I would have apologized for one thing to the Captain, and indeed to the world: not letting them watch while Niels choked to death on his own blood.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:16
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I mean this conflict between the captain and rhona felt so forced and just bad.
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Aug 18, 2015 03:21
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Octy posted:But that's only because Australians can actually aim their torpedos. That's pretty cool, though. The James took a direct hit; the torps are homing and designed to explode near the ship, not hit it. The yield on modern torps is huge, with the idea being to simply split the hull outright (like in the video) or cause massive crew casualties in the least case. Which isn't to be said just to moan about ~~accuracy~~ but to simply say it's kinda annoying that the big bad threat will simply scratch the paint if the plot armour calls for it.
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Aug 18, 2015 09:55
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:The fact that they're trying to make me think she feels bad about it is hilarious. We all know Rhona Mitra moisturizes with the blood of her victims. She doesn't feel even remotely bad about killing whatshisname and the show made that pretty clear. She only feels bad about betraying the Captain (and getting caught).
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Aug 19, 2015 01:42
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Killing Neils is worse than suffocating your own daughters
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Aug 19, 2015 06:55
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Burno posted:Killing Neils is worse than suffocating your own daughters Well you see the daughters were going to die anyway, so it's okay. Also all Niels did was kill 5 billion people through negligence and another several thousand more on purpose and presented a continued danger to unvaccinated individuals so he clearly didn't deserve to die. Edit: The double standard here is actually explainable by Chandler thinking purely about politics, and how both the President and Niels were more useful alive as far as propaganda goes. BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Aug 19, 2015 |
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Aug 19, 2015 19:19
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At the end of the episode where she killed Niels they heavily implied that she needed to do it to harvest his whatever to make the cure contagious. But then she reveals she didn't need to kill him, it was just fun at that point,  But Niels caused the pandemic accidentally (by making it super contagious I think?) so is anyone else worried that making the cure contagious could have crazy side effects? I'm sure it's not going to be a thing in the show but it's kind of hard to suspend the disbelief for that part.
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Yeah I was thinking about the cure mutating in the future. This might just be bringing in snakes to deal with your rabbit problem.
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Aug 19, 2015 19:54
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To be fair, I had no idea how the airborne vaccine was going to be useful. Yeah, we can just drop it from the sky on the population. Because the survivors will be just fine with the USS Nathan James shooting chemicals into their air. I think when they first started talking about the airborne vaccine I shouted out "CHEMTRAILS" at the TV.
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Aug 19, 2015 20:01
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I'm okay with some inaccuracies to further the story, but the torpedo joke was painfully inaccurate and it neutered the big threat of the season as well.
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FISHMANPET posted:But Niels caused the pandemic accidentally (by making it super contagious I think?) so is anyone else worried that making the cure contagious could have crazy side effects? I'm sure it's not going to be a thing in the show but it's kind of hard to suspend the disbelief for that part. Yeah the story being told is definitely that good people can do evil by following their own moral compass.
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Aug 20, 2015 03:19
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I liked the cute Israeli chick.  At least I think she was from Israel.
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holy poo poo this show is good lol been watching since the beginning, fell off for a while. true detective seaosn 2 sucked and i started noticing this was loving doing things i didnt expect.
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Octy posted:I liked the cute Israeli chick. When characters die like she did it makes me wonder if that's the end they had planned for the character or if the actor just wanted off the show.
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Aug 25, 2015 01:22
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Didn't expect that. Thought they would both die in the epiosde they showed up in. Thought she had plot armor now.
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Aug 25, 2015 01:59
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BattleMaster posted:When characters die like she did it makes me wonder if that's the end they had planned for the character or if the actor just wanted off the show. Although I find it pretty odd that fighting the enemy sub, no one dies but they get merked by a bunch of gun nuts who had a cache of RPGs in the back of their boat, what a drat shame.
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Aug 25, 2015 02:01
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The aliens from planet Bat-poo poo Crazy made me laugh, far more than it should. It's not a good joke, it's not a good show... but every week I gotta watch it.
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Aug 25, 2015 02:05
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I think it's a good show. Not stellar, not prestige drama 4th dimensional chess brilliant, but at the very least very competent and actually engaging. I don't think anyone as of this season is even hatewatching it, much less maybe half or 2/3's of the way through the first. Compare this to other summer fare like Under the Dome or Falling Skies.
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I don't think this season is particularly competent at all. At the very least everything having to do with the villains is utterly, distractingly stupid. From the clowning around on the sub and lovely ASW to "taking over Europe" with at most 100 dudes and all that cult bullshit, none of it works. And it sucks that they killed Ravit. What was the point of her character, then?
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BattleMaster posted:When characters die like she did it makes me wonder if that's the end they had planned for the character or if the actor just wanted off the show. It seemed abrupt. I thought they were setting her up for a relationship with the security chief or whatever he is.
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Mars4523 posted:And it sucks that they killed Ravit. What was the point of her character, then? Probably her Visa expired and besides they can only have one "hot" brunette at a time and they just found "too much plastic surgery girl" so Ravit had to go. Lt. Foster is pregnant and off the market so she doesn't count against the total.
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I can think of no finer comment on the show than my thoughts during the episode. When they were stood on the beach waving the bluetooth magi-scan around they pointed it out to sea, but largely at some gulls. I thought "oh, well, so they're going with bluetooth birds" That I could have this thought makes this a unique TV show worthy of all our time.
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That was a fun season and I am glad to have watched it. There was bit in the middle what was bad, but it's mostly just some campy rah rah Navy fun.
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counterfeitsaint posted:That was a fun season and I am glad to have watched it. There was bit in the middle what was bad, but it's mostly just some campy rah rah Navy fun. The finale is actually next week, though I agree that this season has been a lot of fun. A major improvement over the first.
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Only issue is that now they need a new ship as there one is hosed and would need months of dry dock time. Thankfully there are tons of them back in the naval yards. Or they could take it in a new direction, where the program is called Last Ship but they dont actually have a ship anymore as they abandoned it as it was virtually worthless.
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Aug 31, 2015 11:36
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That was a really satisfying episode.
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Aug 31, 2015 11:42
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Uh so what happened between the oil rig and being hunted by the sub? Did I miss an episode?
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Last week they got the Vale lady who was handling the phone network off the oil rig and switch sides to help them. Because of the video of the Nathan James destroying the Civilian ships was sent over the network a bunch of American hicks tried to blockade the ship in the bay they were in so the sub could take it out with no effort. Vale helped mess that plan up and sub went boom.
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ShakeZula posted:The finale is actually next week, though I agree that this season has been a lot of fun. A major improvement over the first. Oh god really? I just assumed it would end the same night as Falling Skies. Actually when the New Orleans thing happened at the end of episode 10, I assumed that was the end of the season, so that's twice now. Is that more a reflection of me or the show? At least it's fun.
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This episode was legitimately good TV, despite what you think of the show or what flaws it has at times. Also I assume next week is a cooldown kind of finale given what they did this episode.
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this show is the '10s version of Battlestar Galactica. We all caused this, we all deserve this. and i'm still watching it.
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I'm so happy I don't know poo poo about the navy or naval warfare because that was a fun episode.
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