Manic_Misanthrope posted:

It's like they got pissed with people breaking the game with Triple Triad in 8 and decided "gently caress you, people who like card minigames for stuff. We're going to make the most obtuse one possible, made entirely of RNG elements and have no rewards for early mastery! Ha!"

DemonTrigger posted:

FF9 is a return to the more cartoony and upbeat style of Final Fantasy, you know, with such things as existential crises in the first act.

But seriously, that more serious kind of stuff has been around since at least FF4, and it's usually done pretty well.

SonicRulez posted:

I may not like FFIII, but that part of it is golden. Talk about sympathizing with a villain. How could you not get pissed off in that situation? Clearly you were the least favorite and you got completely hosed. That sort of "In the same situation, I might've made the same choice" is actually SUPER relevant to this game and I love it.

Keldulas posted:

I am honestly impressed with what they've done with Vivi here. Like this series of events is spiteful, but.... there's a lot of heart in how he reacts to this poo poo. That more than anything sells what's going on here for me.

Rooreelooo posted:

But without the mouth how can you tell whether he's feeling or ?

Mega64 posted:

Edward_Tohr posted:

If you step outside of Final Fantasy, there're a few characters in Chrono Cross who are literally born/hatched/created in the same cutscene where they join the party.

Also, Relm is, like, six, isn't she? Older than the Mysidia Twins, but still younger than Vivi.

Bad Seafood posted:

Warburton is too obviously goofy IMO.

I feel like with Stewart, you'd have this almost dignified first impression before he devolves into his usual bumbling self. Which is great. Steiner isn't just some cantankerous oaf, he's a dude with aspirations and convictions about what a knight is supposed to be and how they're supposed to act. Every now and then he even manages to kick off the clown shoes and actually do something truly heroic. Stewart can be pretty funny when he's given the chance, but he's also got that imperial nobility about him which I think would fit Steiner to a T.

Bufuman posted:

This was probably the highlight of the evening though. Dude was clearly enjoying himself.

TravelLog posted:

In short, Quina is good even if Blue Magic isn't as insanely powerful as it was in a game like 5 or Gau's rages were in 6.

TravelLog posted:

I mean, Strago was more of the typical blue mage in that he learns spells directly from enemies, but Gau is also very much in the Blue Mage vein. If you must be technical, he's a lot more a Blue Mage/Beastmaster hybrid than a Berserker one.

Zeikier posted:

I think it was BradyGames who made the PlayOnline Unfree Brochure. Prima was busy with other lovely guides, like for Jade Cocoon!

ApplesandOranges posted:

VIII is actually surprisingly good about that as well. Off the top of my head there are only two palette swaps (Elnoyle/Elvoret and Behemoth/Catoblepas).

Mr. Vile posted:

And Bahamut/Tiamat! But yeah, FF8 is really good about not having pallet swaps in general.

Acne Rain posted:

personally on Kuja, Final Fantasy is constantly giving you female party members that parade around in underwear and recently in Final Fantasy XV they dressed up a male party member more because he made the male audience uncomfortable, so I'm all forletting Kuja going outside wearing that, especially if he's going to be an awesome character you fear and respect on top of that.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Hey, come on now. Kuja's theatrical, but he's certainly menacing.

Mega64 posted:

MarquiseMindfang posted:

As with Odin in all other Final Fantasies, if this was gameplay, Odin's attack would have landed three miles to the left and a giant MISS! would have appeared over Cleyra.

Plavski posted:

In 8 you listen to love songs and grow up in the same orphanage as every other character with a speaking role and... well 8 is a bit of a mess.

Mega64 posted:

There's also two different games where mad scientists render people into monstrosities.

Plavski posted:

One of those occasions in 7 is by attempting to cross-breed a tiger with a girl.

Plavski posted:

I've always really, really loved the design of Atomos. As a kid I got an app that extracted the FMVs and I used to watch that cutscene over and over. There was something so existential about the destruction of Lindblum that really struck home.

AweStriker posted:

Lightning Returns is 13-3. 13-2 has two permanent ones (Serah and Noel) and technically however many humans can be put into the constantly rotating third party slot (which is at the very least Sazh and two iterations of Lightning).

Bad Seafood posted:

Dude's in the middle of a philosophical quandary. His whole worldview's been challenged.

lezard_valeth posted:

Garnet is a protagonist in a FF game. I think there has never been a FF protagonist that at one point or other hasn't felt sorry for the villain, even if he burned a village of children or murdered your girlfriend right in front of you.

QuantaStarFire posted:

Pretty sure XIV Ramuh is just a beard in the shape of a person.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

I bet Vivi is delicious.

Bufuman posted:

I liked certain parts of TAY. Seeing some of my favorite characters from the original game (or even the series) either all grown up or older and wiser was nice. And the challenge dungeons were interesting too. Well, most of them; gently caress Rydia's Challenge Dungeon. Who on earth thought that reprising and extending the Sealed Cave, complete with multiple Demon Wall fights, with a team consisting of ONLY a fragile caster and a slow tank, was a good idea? gently caress that guy!

That said most of the other additions were pointless fluff or poor imitations of plot elements from the original game. And several characters were extremely underpowered to the point where an empty slot was almost preferable (the standouts being Edge's ninja team; considering that Edge was the weak link of the original team but made up for it by being good at several things, making four characters each with ONE of his specialties was a terrible idea). I liked the idea of the Band system, but knowing which attacks to use for some of them was an obtuse pain in the rear end. And the moon system was pointlessly annoying. Overall the game was solidly average at best, not BAD exactly but definitely not good.

Fister Roboto posted:

You've never heard of the inverse ninja law?

Suspect Bucket posted:

but he snaps out of it pretty quick because his cool friends that consist of A Circus Wizard Kid, Dr. Smart Hot Chick, Cool Gruff Uncle, Furry Fury, Lil' Sis, and Tsunderbro are rad and love him.