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RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Nam Taf posted:

ZFS and jails are life and using FreeBSD gives me a stratospheric sort of elitism that alludes those Linux simpletons for the most part.

i run a hardenedbsd server and two debian servers, how superior am i?

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RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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PlesantDilemma posted:

I could never figure out the ports system on *BSD. Apt-get keeps me on Linux.

it's so easy though

code:
portsnap fetch extract
cd /usr/ports/$group/$port
make install clean
:confused:

it's even easier if you install ports-mgmt/portmaster; with portmaster you can install multiple ports at once and do all the configuration before you even start building them as opposed to configuring a dependency -> building the dependency -> configuring the next dependency -> building that dependency etc

Nam Taf posted:

Pkg is going to blow your mind

pkg is great but building from ports instead of using precompiled binaries can be advantageous in some scenarios

i don't need every single module that nginx ships with for example (support for webdav, mp4/flv etc) so it's nice to be able to just build in what i need as opposed to literally everything

RISCy Business fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Aug 31, 2015

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akadajet posted:

I use OS X, op. It's good because it's the world's most advanced desktop operating system and also a BSD I'm told.

xnu is a child of the mach and 4.3bsd kernels, yes

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wooger posted:

You conveniently leave out the interstitial steps:
code:
wait multiple hours if you're compiling something big, or something with big dependencies
get a confusing error message 2 hours in, that breaks the install
It's also an absolute nightmare if you're a new user and haven't learned that using a port for anything means that you can't use binary pkgs, and vice versa - unless you want to risk version dependency errors.

Pkg on FreeBSD suffers from the binary packages only being re-compiled once every 2 weeks or so, which means it's always out of date with the ports tree. It's not clear why they can't just re-compile every time a port is updated.

Debian has it's flaws, but being able to install a whole list of software in a few seconds with one command was a revelation 10 years ago, and pkg on FreeBSD still isn't close.
apt-get has only broken a couple of times in a decade for me.

since i don't use freebsd on desktops or anything, i've never had to compile anything overly large like Xorg or firefox/chrome which suits me just fine

as a server OS for basically anything, freebsd is absolutely rock solid; yes, it has a learning curve, but once you master it, it's an extremely powerful OS

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