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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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Jagchosis posted:

In Sweden, a trial began for Claver Berinkindi, a Hutu Swedish national accused of leading attacks against Tutsis. I haven't read much on the case so I don't know how strong the evidence against him is.

There's not many sources beyond the news24 article- even the Rwandan Kinyarwanda-language sources took all their information from it. From that, he's already been tried and convicted in absentia in Rwanda, and the main pieces of prosecution evidence are eyewitness testimony from survivors, phone recordings where he used Interahamwe language about Tutsis, and him looking up the outcome of another trial of an accused genocidaire in Norway two years ago. The defense is planning to argue that the eyewitnesses mistook Berinkindi for his brother, who was definitely a genocidaire but is also dead.

So, there's not much beyond survivors identifying him as leading Interahamwe forces during massacres, and what there is is circumstantial. Still, 21 years isn't too late for justice, right?

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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The International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda is expected to shut down by the end of December of this year, close to its 21st anniversary. 60 people have been convicted of planning the genocide, 14 acquitted, 9 still are at large. Sentences for planning genocide ranged from a few months to life in prison, with Italy, Sweden, and Mali agreeing to host the defendants. However, a number of them are still in Arusha, Tanzania, the city where the ICTR is headquartered. All that remains at the moment is to consider the appeal case of Pauline Nyiramasuhuko, the first woman to be convicted by an international genocide court, and the first woman to be convicted of genocidal rape.

However, trials in Rwanda and around the world will continue, with Spain and London arresting the former intelligence chief of Rwanda in June. With Nyiramasuhuko's trial having lasted 12 years from indictment to conviction, it seems likely that the wheels of justice will continue to spin for another decade or more. Possibly Kagame will have retired from the Presidency by then.

The court's own director has this to say about its legacy:

"Now no court has a problem to interpret what genocide actually means,"

"We have shown: The time in which African leaders can do with their citizens whatever they want is over,"

'The court was also the first to recognize rape as a means of perpetrating genocide. "But that is not enough," says Majola, who thinks that more perpetrators should have been punished.'

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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kustomkarkommando posted:

As an aside the UK released Gen. Karake after deciding against extradition to Spain and I believe he's now back in Rwanda.

“After careful consideration we do not believe an extradition offence can be established under UK law. The main reason is that the relevant laws on the conduct alleged in this case do not cover the acts of non-UK nationals or residents abroad."

Jesus Christ.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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kustomkarkommando posted:

It's even funnier when you know who lead his legal defence

Cherie Blair

Good God.

Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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To add a little context, General Emmanuel Karenzi Karake was the head of Rwandan intelligence from 1994-1997 and was arrested for charges of assassinations during that time and of war crimes committed against Congolese civilians in 2000. His arrest was hugely controversial, in large part because although he had been arrested in 2010 in Rwanda on charges of "immoral conduct" (after a stint in charge of Rwandan forces in Darfur with the UN), the Great African War and the circumstances surrounding the Rwandan Patriotic Front cementing rule of Rwanda are still a sensitive subject for many Rwandans, in large part because of perceived European and American hypocrisy.

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Effectronica
May 31, 2011
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Badger of Basra posted:

Don't you mean Kabila?

Actually, he means Denis Nguesso of the Republic of the Congo.

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