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Melmac posted:Can people genuinely explain to me how he is so well disliked yet he won a recall election? I'm honestly curious. Wisconsin is a largely Republican state outside of Madison and Milwaukee, and public opinion against unions is very, very negative. The idea of Wisconsin as some bastion of progressive thought is a myth and really hasn't been true for like a hundred years. The recall failed because the Wisconsin Democrats ran the exact same candidate against Walker who had already lost badly to him the year before (because reasons). It's really difficult to put into words just how colossally hosed the Wisconsin Democratic Party is, but when it came to last year's election: - Mary Burke had basically been appointed as the nominee by the party about two days after the recall failed, despite being a single-term school board member who spent a few years working at her family's bike company. The party actively discouraged other people from mounting a campaign; they decided it was best to have a single candidate right away. The primary was a joke, to the point that the only candidates were Burke and Brett Hulsey, a loving whackjob member of the Assembly who once announced plans to stand outside the state Republican convention and hand out KKK hoods. - The chair of the party at that point (he stepped down this summer), Mike Tate, was a loving moron. Tate cut his teeth working for Kathleen Falk, a former Dane County Executive, and he ran the state party as though it exists exclusively in Dane County and Dane County can speak to the entire state. It can't. - The campaign was half-heartedly running against Act 10 (already a mistake because people in this state were tired of hearing about the unions), and then the rest of the messaging was "hey, gently caress Scott Walker." That message flies among only a few hundred thousand people in the state at most -- it doesn't bring out Joe Fuckoff in Oshkosh. They completely ignored everything else about the Walker administration that was completely hosed. Every word out of Burke's mouth and every word in her commercials should have been that scads of people in Walker's staff have been indicted and tried for corruption, misconduct and worse. - The ground game was a joke. The party basically assumed that people would get out and vote this time because they had another shot at Walker. The minute after a poll showed Burke neck-and-neck with Walker, they gave up and figured they had it in the bag. - They stopped running TV ads until just a few weeks before the election, when the Burke campaign's internal polling realized, "Holy poo poo, we're going to get creamed." - Basically, Wisconsin's hosed. Remember, in 2011, a justice of our Supreme Court literally admitted to choking another justice out of anger, and this justice not only did not face ethics sanctions, he proceeded to win re-election. In both the recall and the 2014 election, the WisDems ran a 2004 "anybody but Bush" campaign. That's why they failed.
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Philthy posted:It was such a poo poo effort. They had mountains of terrible policy decisions he made that totally hosed this state up, even in the eyes of Republicans, and they didn't hit on any of them. They just had stupid pro-choice commercials and other obvious poo poo that is going to turn no ones vote around. They had the loving elections handed to them and they did nothing at all. Mike Tate seriously ran the Wisconsin Democratic Party into the ground. He's the reason Feingold lost in 2010, he's the reason they ran Tom goddamn Barrett in two consecutive elections (when he never even wanted to run in the first place), he's the reason Mary Burke was the coronated nominee like two days after the recall election despite her qualifications being "worked at her Dad's bike company," he's the reason the party messaging never shifted from Act 10 (despite everyone in the state, even Democrats, being loving sick and tired of hearing about the unions), he's the reason the ground game is such a mess, and seriously gently caress that guy.
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Sep 23, 2015 22:30
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Hilario Baldness posted:In all fairness he was an infinitely stronger candidate than Elizabeth Falk was for the recall election. Tom Barrett is a class act all around and they hoped he would stand out against the perception of Scott Walker as a dick. All four candidates for the recall were terrible. Kathleen Falk is, well, Kathleen Falk; Barrett had to be dragged kicking and screaming into running even the first time around; the other two choices were a dude who has to wear a vest with his name on it in order for anyone to know who he is, and a yokel farmer.
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