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Where did this "fundamental human nature" start? Did cavemen have it? Did monkeys? Do we share this nature with our chimp relatives?
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Jul 20, 2015 21:43
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All I'm saying is that nobody has anything close to a working definition of 'fundamental human nature', its origin is "it's always been there", and every example provided is one of shared human experiences. I can relate to an ancient Roman writing about his awful hangover because I too have had bad hangovers; and even if I had never had alcohol in my life I can still compare my similar experiences of having a headache or feeling nauseous, not because this is some fundamental understanding we share.
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Jul 20, 2015 22:02
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computer parts posted:Treating alcohol as important is an example, although it's very specific. Everything you've listed is true, but those things are in no way unique to humans. You might as well say "being made up of atoms" is part of fundamental human nature. Strudel Man posted:Why do you mention having an awful hangover, a largely physiological phenomenon, rather than the far more apt emotional commonality that we can find in ancient peoples? The evidence of similar drives, reactions and desires? And I would argue that many shared psychological drives we have with say the Romans or Greeks come from the experiences of being born, raised, and living in a civilized society similar enough to our own.
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Jul 20, 2015 22:26
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Lol if you actually use the ignore list because you're so traumatized by reading words from people who don't agree with you
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Jul 24, 2015 20:49
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