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Chomskyan posted:The two stories in the OP aren't comparable, but the US is just as guilty as China of human rights abuses if not more so. The difference is the US commits them internationally through kidnapping, torture, and, irregular warfare (read: terrorism), whilst China commits the vast majority of their crimes domestically. When you control a sprawling continental empire that still represses colonial vassals (sorry, "autonomous zones") to this day you can also have a very broad interpretation of "domestic".
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3peat posted:China builds roads, railways, schools and hospitals in Africa, in return for access to resources. European imperialists did the same thing too. Weird how we don't get any praise for it though. HorseLord posted:I love this idea of the solidly defined, fixed human nature, which transcends all history and every known society, despite all evidence to the contrary. The idea that all human beings all secretly have the same personality, and if they try to do something good, then they'll transform involuntarily like a werewolf on a full moon. "Free will doesn't exist, so it's okay I'm a shitpile and also so are you secretly". 3edgy5me bro Why do you disagree about a universal human nature? "The history of all hitherto existing societies is the history of class struggle" - it's right there on page one. It is you who say it, and impose those 19th-century European social theories onto others. kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 10:01 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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3peat posted:European imperialists only built roads and railways that went from the resource extraction point to the nearest sea port. And China kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jul 19, 2015 |
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I suppose we ought to be fair to HorseLord - he himself would probably do very well as a guest of the Middle Kingdom. The CPC needs Useful Idiots to be their stooges in the wider world as much as Comrade kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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The Holodomor either occurred as an act of deliberate policy, in which case Stalinist socialism is a tyrannical regime of misery and oppression, or as a transgression of incompetence, in which case socialism's claims that government control is inherently more professional, efficient and far-sighted are comprehensively debunked. So HorseLord, are you an rear end in a top hat or an imbecile? Your pick. kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jul 24, 2015 |
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