A visual essay about men and emotions

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boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Duckbag posted:

Judging by the deliberately androgynous art style, I'd say our cartoonist is the sort of person who thinks that most differences between the genders are artificial (and typically oppressive) social constructs and we'd all be a lot happier if we tore the walls down. Interestingly, there's another (equally feminist) perspective that says that gender roles are informed by natural and immutable differences between the sexes and a truly egalitarian society would respect and celebrate those differences rather than trying to treat men and women as if they were the same.

so how do men and women biologically differ in the expression of emotion

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boner confessor: Apr 25, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Guavanaut posted:

My main issue with claims that gender is 100% a social construct is that it has bad implications for trans people. If it's all social, then were trans people badly socialized? Should medical professionals try to 'resocialize' them?

Bruce Reimer's case presents another challenge to that view. His penis was obliterated by a surgical accident at the age of 6 months, and due to a prevailing belief in the socialization model, doctors decided that the easiest way forward was to remove the testes, reassign him as female and raise him accordingly.
Dr John Money, the presiding psychologist, declared the experiment a success and used it to forward his theories of gender identity, however that never happened and Reimer later in life said that he had always internally identified as male.

There are a lot of things in gender roles that are purely social or cultural, but gender identity itself seems to be something deeper and difficult to square with the idea of a purely social gender.

just because we don't have a social construct of gender that fits all cases, or is often incorrect, doesn't mean that the idea that gender is socially constructed is incorrect. it just means humans are imperfect and often wrong or express flawed ideas. your argument is like saying that science doesn't know everything yet, therefore science can't know anything

in a way, trans people are 'badly' socialized - they're forced to accept gender roles which are uncomfortable or inappropriate for them as individuals because society cannot or is not willing to permit them to express themselves as they are. there is a mismatch, and it's society's problem

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