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America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
Personal emotions are dead weight, emotions are only useful to 1. express solitude with a group or 2. to fuel an ambition that serves a greater purpose to society.

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America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

OwlFancier posted:

Emotions are good actually.
Are they good if they're not fulfilling a constructive purpose though?
I would argue that many men avoid emotions because they often find them to be annoying or obstacles.
Emotions that do not help bring you where you want to be in life are useless; I see nothing disagreeable with that assertion.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
If someone thinks that the only thing stopping everyone from turning into gay transsexual heathens are codified gender roles that may say more about the individual making the assertion than any supposed truths about society.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
It is quite beautiful that a mathematical construction could gain such a level of complexity that it becomes abstracted from and does not instinctively understand the root cause or reason for such fundamental aspects of its existence like emotions. Our emotions are borne, as you say, for practical reasons of evolution, but we place a meaning upon them that goes beyond that.
Mankind is the universe gazing upon itself, and contemplating and questioning the justification for its own existence in the mass hallucination that is civilization, culture, and society.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

MrNemo posted:

It's one level of understanding emotion but I think it's important to also emphasize that we can view emotions as heuristic devices, behavioural modifiers and even delve down to describing them as C-neurons firing at X time (or inconjunction with J-Neurons firing, etc. conditions) but these are also the experiences that give meaning to human experience.

I'm talking about them in the more scientific terms because I believe that's what most people engaging in the discussion from the position that emotions are pointless or extraneous will respond to and I don't think it's somehow a wrong way of understanding them. I don't agree that it's a primary way to do so, I wouldn't agree that we should understand emotions in art or as conjured by a novel or important shared experience firstly in terms of how they caused people to behave or shift their thought processes. That's something for later analysis and on a mass level, doing crowd psychology, it has value. In terms of understanding what it's actually like to live that experience or what that means to another human being? That's a totally different issue. Also they're not crazy irrational things.

You know all those stupid bits in ST:TNG where Data is acting like an idiot? That's probably a really, really generous picture of how an android devoid of emotions would behave in situations.
(I know, necro'ing a crap-rated thread, whatever)
Sometimes I feel like it would just be better to be a robot, to not feel anything. I don't mean this in some stupid autistic way. I have emotions and desires, I have empathy and I want to make people happy, I want to find someone to love and all that, but I feel like there is just this great distance between me and everyone else. I'm surrounded by people everyday and yet I feel alone.
I obsess over work and learning so that I can distract myself. People start to feel transient and only worthy of manipulation. I'm an amicable, social person yet I've never had anyone I would call a real friend. People often say I'm distant.
Maybe I don't try hard enough, maybe I'm just unfit in a Darwinian sense.
When you think about it, becoming a machine would be Nirvana in the Buddhist sense, removing yourself totally from desire.
Eh, nobody cares anyway.
This is why we have these forums, to project our shadow into a virtual void instead of real life.

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