Budget Prefuse posted:

the ending to diebuster is probably the best ending i've ever seen in an anime. its perfect in every way. it's the perfect connection to gunbuster

Cake Attack posted:

i think the ending is real good, it involves gunbuster but it uses it to close off the ideas diebuster has built up very well. sure, it's the same literal event as the ending to gunbuster, but the significance of this event is different in a way that's meaningful to what diebuster was doing

Cake Attack posted:

the moment at the start of 5 where you get the noriko name drop in complete is good

Sephiroth_IRA posted:

The sexual assault bothered me a lot less the second time

dogsicle posted:

i cried the first time i saw the diebuster ending, it's perfect

Droyer posted:

Episode 5 is basically an inversion of Nono and Lal'c's relationship dynamic: Nono is now powerful and special while Lal'c has become powerless. The entire episode deals with her frustrations about her own powerlessness and the distance and jealousy she now feels towards Nono. It also reinforces an ongoing theme I've mentioned before: The topless have nothing without their powers. Tycho was the first to overcome this in episode 3 when she let go of the past, Nicola did not overcome it which led to his actions in the episode (while I do think that scene could have been done without the sexual assault and I have no intention to defend it I do understand what they were trying to do with it) and he ultimately became vitter and jaded, and Lal'c was able to overcome it at the end of the episode due to her friendship with Nono. Nono then unfortunately left, whuch leads into episode 6.

In episode 6 Lal'c has yet again regressed back to her earlier self due to Nono leaving and her new title as "The mover of planets". It's interesting that both Kasumi and Lal'c said that history would come to judge them (or something to that effect), but Kasumi is seen as in the right while Lal'c is seen as in the wrong. At the end when Nono finally returns she too is ineffectual at first, and it is only through them overcoming their mutual jealousy and pride and standing together as equals that they can finally achieve victory.

I really like the ending. It fits thematically into Nono and Lal'c's story and gives greater context to Gunbuster's ending. I also found it really cute that Lal'c used Nono's catchphrase in the final scene.

To the person wondering why the buster machines are named after french numbers: Although it being french specifically has no meaning, the change from normal numbers to french indicates that they stopped using degeneracy generators and instead used topless, Which is why why Nono is number seven instead of sept and Dix-Neuf became number 19 once he reaquired a degeneracy generator.

A final note about the music: Diebuster's music has quite a few nods to the music of Gunbuster. The most obvious example being the military march returning, but there were a few more subtle ones too. Noriko's theme is a leitmotif in all of the tracks associated with Nono, and the song that plays during the ending is a reimagining of the song that plays during Gunbuster's ending.

Cake Attack posted:

Sharkopath posted:

I'd say Lal'c in six hasn't really regressed. She's showing coldness to the military bureaucracy that is actively isolating her from her friends and idolizing her simultaneously. She feels abandoned by Nono but is also tightly holding on to her memories of her, (DON'T TOUCH MY HAIR!!") and is actively seeking new information about her. She's showing more warmth and kindness to her Topless colleagues and the first military commander that seems to treat her with humanity and care. When she is smashing giant Nono she's not trying to brutalize her friend out of jealousy, she wants to break her out of her shell and have her talk back, trying to appeal to her emotions directly. it just doesn't succeed until she's able to speak to her with a clearer head. It's still a direct reversal of their roles though, Lal'c has to get a closed off Nono to acknowledge and respect her.

Cake Attack posted:

Droyer posted:

Yeah, regressed might be a strong word, but her saying things like "I'm the mover of planets" reminds me of her pride in being the curve wrecker early on in the show.

Srice posted:

Also in thinking of other things Enokido has written and their reoccurring elements, it occurs to me that he likes dark skinned ladies

Budget Prefuse posted:

them not showing noriko at the end was genius. if they had some sappy ending showing noriko on earth it would have been so cheesy and dumb i would have beat up every person involved in the series. the feeling you get as you realize it's the final scene from gunbuster and then the two red lights in the sky...makes me cry every time

Mentat Radnor posted:

I just finished, and I absolutely loved the ending. I loved the whole drat thing.

And by that I mean both Gunbuster and Diebuster. I can't tell you which one I liked better because, even though the two OVAs have a 16-year separation in animation and a 12,000-year separation in characters, I don't think I can consider them separately now that I've seen both. I bet it's because I just saw Gunbuster for the first time last week.

In any case, it feels like one grand story to me. The whole soundtrack was notably fantastic. I am probably in the honeymoon phase with this anime and will be able to nitpick stuff later, but right now I have no complaints, it double inazuma kicked me in the heart.