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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



https://twitter.com/Foone/status/918391434411106304

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



surebet posted:

plus i quite enjoy my boring corolla 4 door accord

it's the extra boring 4 cyl but at least it's stick

gotta love those honda options. want a stick? enjoy your base model! (unless you want a civic, then you have to get the ricer model)

burning swine
May 26, 2004



Endless Mike posted:

gotta love those honda options. want a stick? enjoy your base model! (unless you want a civic, then you have to get the ricer model)

~actually~ to this day you can get the highest trim accord with V6 with a manual transmission


let's not derail too hard about it tho

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

why are japanese cars, like japanese keyboards, so good?

is it racism?

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

WhiteFox have plonked their keyboard up for pre-order with a flotilla of new switch options.

The Kickstarter was with Halo's but they appear not available yet:



The Kaihua Speeds look new. I keep on reading that as Kahlúa :lol:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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not sure how it progressed in the last month, but

quote:

We also have encountered some unexpected push-back from one of our former partners, Massdrop, on the topic of the Halo switches. We (Input Club) developed and invented the Halo switches, and worked with Massdrop to finance the physical tooling that allows them to go to mass production. We assigned Massdrop the patent rights in exchange for a royalty and a “license-back” that we believe allows us to source the switches for use in keyboards. But when we tried to order switches for the WhiteFox/NightFox, Massdrop would not let us source them. They then claimed to own the “Halo” name and asked us to give up the license-back altogether, so we would essentially lose all access to our own invention. This is very confusing for us at Input Club, as we are mostly a team of engineers and are not used to dealing with people who act in this manner. Unfortunately, we don’t have any more information right now as to how the situation will unfold.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard/updates

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

An update in the comments:

Massdrop posted:

In our agreement for the HALO switch, Input Club requested an exception to our exclusive distribution rights to allow them to offer switches directly to end customers as replacement parts and as standalone switches via their website. This was a reasonable request, so we agreed and wrote it into the agreement. After that, Input Club launched their kickstarter campaign for the Whitefox, offering HALO switches as an option. This was against the terms of our agreement, ... :dong:

https://input.club/official-halo-switch-statement/

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
I’m never doing business with massdrop again, screw those guys.

edit: also because they’re a pain to deal with.

JewKiller 3000
Nov 28, 2006

by Lowtax
whoever came up with massdrop was pretty smart, but at the same time, gently caress massdrop

Asshole Masonanie
Oct 27, 2009

by vyelkin
check this one out. ready?

assdrop.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

schranz kafka posted:

check this one out. ready?

assdrop.

lmebo

There Will Be Penalty
May 18, 2002

Makes a great pet!
did this thread get spooky too?

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

There Will Be Penalty posted:

did this thread get spooky too?

yes, i'm freein' the post

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

unable to free post, thread spooked

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
:rip:

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



yah this thread is broken somehow. randomly gives errors about invalid pages if you snipe.

i like it

pgroce
Oct 24, 2002

how it went is that they're designing and building whole new loving switches, in close consultation with their patent lawyers to make sure (lol) they don't infringe. this is pushing the kickstarter fulfillment for the new switches back to 1/30.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard/posts/1988707

quote:

The switch manufacturer (which is separate from the keyboard manufacturer) is also working extremely diligently on producing our revised switches, but they require our presence in China to rapidly go over prototyping and make necessary adjustments. To that end, our team is actually flying out to China in two weeks to make sure that the replacements for Halo True and Halo Clear switches are spectacular. When we return from that trip, we will have quite a bit more information about the entire production process.

Handling the situation with our previous partners has cost us some time that could otherwise be spent working on keyboards, and thus we are going to revise our ship date for WhiteFox keyboards. This decision is also determined by the fact that we are testing our new switches for tens of millions more cycles than the original Halo switches. In our last update we had mentioned that we planned to fulfill in December for the whole order, but we don’t feel very comfortable with that date any longer and will be revising the ship date for Halo replacement orders to January 30th, 2018. For Kickstarter orders without Halo switches, we plan to ship in the month of December. Please be aware that if you want to cancel your order, you are welcome to do so at any time by messaging us via Kickstarter’s system, however we recommend that you keep reading as we may have an alternative that interests you.

We’ve also been working very diligently with legal counsel to make sure that our newly invented switches don’t have any conflicts or issues with the switch tooling owned and controlled by Massdrop. Multiple lawyers have advised us to keep details of the switch private until we are actually in a position to immediately produce and ship keyboards to backers, to reduce the potential risk of delays stemming from legal disputes. We are an extraordinarily open organization and it pains us to have to remain quiet about the cool features we’ve built into these new switches, but we have a duty to protect the timeline for production and this is the best way to do so.

don't even have force curves on the new switches, they could be total poo poo. it's a fun mystery!

as someone who signed on to the ks just for the trues i'm frustrated that it's turned into a green-field design project, but if i wanted any of those other switches in a keyboard i'd have it by now, and if i wanted them in a whitefox i'd wait til they sold them in their store. i'm in it to win it.

also, as much as i'm convinced they'll still get sued into the ground with their new switches regardless of whether they manage not to infringe their old patent (unlikely), i love that they want to stomp on :yosbutt:drop's neck enough that they'd start from scratch just to gently caress them. i will support that kind of spite.

i'll report back on january 30 (or feb 30, or never 30) to let you know what these switches i know nothing about but am paying and waiting for feel like. :rip: me

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



https://twitter.com/emarl_/status/918749791747653632

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
pls close and recreate this thread so we don't have to deal w/ the phantom post

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

cheese-cube posted:

yah this thread is broken somehow. randomly gives errors about invalid pages if you snipe.

i like it

it's like a $15 mech keyboard on taobao in thread form.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Shaggar posted:

pls close and recreate this thread so we don't have to deal w/ the phantom post

I'll start the wiki

pram
Jun 10, 2001
works on my machine

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pram
Jun 10, 2001
ok its broken thx lowtax

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