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Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
So i got my Iksar SK to 10 but i cant stop thinking i should maybe reroll a troll just for the stats and being able to bash with a 2hander...
Opinions?

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Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
How do i get a lvl 10 Iksar sk near a place where i can hand his stuff and money over to a likely lvl 1-2 troll sk?

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
In case i dont find anyone willing or able to port,
is the overthere a safe place for an iksar to boat to oasis or am i kos?
Wiki says its a beachhead for "evil races" but also that everyone hates lizards.
From there i could do a handover with someone.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Well i rolled a troll for now, but didnt delete the iksar.
Gave him a blade of xalgoz in favour of a BaBS mainly because nobody sold any until i had purchased it...
Maybe if im in the mood ill gear him up again in the future, but im really not into sword/shield and having a bigass 2hander and still be able to bash is really nice.

Although nothin comes close to Field of Bone when it comes to newbie zones.
Can i make a troll non-kos to lizards without dedicating my life to it?

Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Feb 13, 2019

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Levelling an Iksar Necro, got bored of Wakening and moved to twin giants in Frontier.
Since those are camped half the time, and chain-resisting slows when they dont insta-break roots i moved on to find myself in the giant fort in Burning Woods, currently lvl 56.84 now.

Kinda liking it a lot, and i noticed a Greater Warbone Skeleton roaming the front gate path a lot of times - so i thought "why not try undead-charming that guy since wiki stats say hes pretty awesome appearently".
But, of course, i dont have the fabled pre-nerf-CoS (and prolly never will) so heres my question:

Is it feasible to try fighting with a charmed undead pet that could potentially wipe the floor with me if charm broke out of the blue if you dont have the good CoS, and if so, how exactly would you go about it (in detail)?
My only experiences with undead charming so far have been rather frustrating at low levels, when i gave it up until a short episode in KC at 55 which ended up with my pet breaking charm and slapping me to paste in the absolute clown fiesta that is KC-courtyard-okta-pulling-group, so im hesitant to even try to utilize it.

(Which is also why i wont go to HS basement.)

e: im on Blue, didnt find a separate thread for the server, dunno if its much of a difference though.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Ive read up on (by which i mean watched videos about) charm-killing vs other undead like in HS, but i was rather thinking about about substituting my 37-41 pet spell with a 42-49 charmed pet that appearently can quad and stuff.
I just dont want to have that quadding pet in my face at fates whim, and with random charm breaks i feel thats a thing thats going to happen.

Ppl also say handing your pet -Mres gear helps to NOT break charms, or re-charm after a break, but idk if thats something that really makes a difference large enough to simply having the normal pet that will *not decided to kill me.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
sounds like a hassle, think ill just stick with my basic skeleton then and hold out for EoT

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Hibajubwa posted:

The CoS is mostly a utility thing, not a requirement... and it doesn't help at all on random charm breaks. That said, I'd encourage you to farm plat and get one, it makes life much nicer on a necro. I farmed Felwithe guards on my necro 51-54 and made more than enough plat to buy a CoS.


Mh, on Blue that thing is, for those that dont confuse it with the nerfed version, 125k

Still i might give charming a try, sounds like something i should have done at least once.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Does invis vs. animals concern skeleton monks?

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
good to know, thanks for the tip

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Question on money:

Developing an itch for a twink, probably shaman, maybe monk, so we are talking funghi (40k) maybe haste belt/cloak (20k) and decent weaponry (7-8k) plus jewelry and stuff, so lets round up to 70k as a goal.
I found that im not one for hunting jackpot items as i do not have the mental endurance to camp a ghazugi ring for 40 hours or something, so probably hard "cash- vendor trash" is the best option for one like me.
But where?

Lots of people seem pretty sure that Felwithe is (one of) the best place(s) for earning cash.
Zone has a 24 minute timer, with 20pp/guard and i think 5 of those are accessible from the bridge?
Thats doesnt sound too bad, but also not the end of all means.
Hill/sand giants are pretty camped i see, seafuries are nerfed but maybe still ok-ish?
I was even thinking spectres for scythes, or other city guards, but ive never gotten into hard-farming anything in this game so im pretty clueless.

So, goons, whats your recommendations for earning such fortunes if you were a 58/59 (iksar) necromancer?

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

DisgracelandUSA posted:

Fwiw, poison wind censer is the only weapon you need until 50. After that, unless you want something fancy, one of the wisdom spears should work fine. Ashen war spear from OOT is an easy, if long, camp. For shield, the best bang/buck is probably epic shield (shield of falsehood). It should be trivial to do at 50 if you can catch the rathe mountain spawns. Mistemoore shield is also great.

i was originally planning on an etched icewurm fang (which is about 7k on Blue), but mostly because i blindly followed the twinking advice from a buddy.
Also fungi (35-40k), thats basically a given.
Ive snatched a cheap Sarnak Battle Shield for offhand, with a Slime Coated Harpoon for main (toggling with an even cheaper Wraithbone Hammer).
Need to read up on ashen warspear,doesnt ring a bell currently.

For haste ive gotten Schw, haste belt or cloack would be nice but not a must have, as the cloak is 40 and the belts start at 18.
Jewelry is prolly 1-2k depending on what ill go for - 2x 5/55 are possible to get for 350-400, 35/25 ears are 400 each, and a 55/55 neck goes for 500 right now.

Since i also probably want to get an EoT for my necro, thats another 20k i have to cough up, but i tell myself its an investment to farm even better,
so that brings the total estimated cost to about 80k, 42 of which i collected while levelling to 58.8
Maybe EoT isnt that big of a deal, but people seem pretty adamant about it.

Spear is probably the least important item right now so 70k is possible, which still means a close 30 to grind out.
Oh yeah and a JBB at 50 of course, another 20k but thats future talk.

As of now ill aim for Fungi + EoT i think?

At least i wont run out of stuff to farm for.

Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Jan 23, 2024

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Pillow Armadillo posted:

You won't be using Emissary of Thule until level 59, I'd consider that 20k part of the leveling process and not trade for that spell up front.

Well the necro is 58.8 so its around the corner, the twink is going to be a shaman.

I could simply take it easy and not twink him to boot, but then id have the constant feeling of "could have done better" everytime something goes wrong i guess.
Or i could just take the fungi and jewelry and just play the character.

Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer
Is there such a thing as a goon guild on blue?

I really dont wanna drop-trade a fungi when i buy one, and i dont think i can trust the guys in EC.

Otoh ive met people with vindicator breastplates on their lvl 20s, they wont give much of a poo poo about a lowlife fungi

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Yolomon Wayne
Jun 10, 2014

You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is
Grimey Drawer

Meatgrinder posted:

You can actually pay Dial to transfer stuff, especially if you need your gear moved to a level 1 in Everfrost or something, they'll just run it over.

cool, good to know!

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