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There really isn't a thread about this? I looked and didn't find one, maybe I goofed. I took some notes during the first FOX GOP debate, please share your observations. Trump was Trump, he dominated the first two thirds of the debate then started to crumble a bit. The crowd ate up his bravado as he fended off quite a few loaded questions, some of his responses to Rand Paul made that candidate visibly angry. When asked about his abuse of the bankruptcy system, though, he lost his cool and ranted about "money lenders" and how he followed the same rules as anyone else. That's the first dog whistle about Jews I have witnessed in a national political event. It's also the first time I've seen someone say that he was paling around with people like the Clintons because, like The Godfather, he gives favors and expects them to obey. That was almost chilling. I predicted last year that Chris Christie had it made in the shade and I was completely wrong. He's been likable, makes jokes that play well with the crowd, he was a big teddy bear. Not so at the debates: his answers were very dense, defensive, and spoken quickly. He was not the affable guy that people love, he came across as the mobster that he is, defending himself from all the shady things he is accused of doing. He was also the first to exploit 9/11, he did it at least four times (three times in one response, one later, then I lost count as I drifted into the abyss). Trump got brownie points again by being the first candidate to drop the, "You hugged Obama" bomb. Some people were playing it safe, making early overtures to other candidates as if vying to be the Vice President. Kasich, I think, was the first to hand out compliments to others, said that Fiorina stole the show at the little kids table debate earlier in the day. He was among the nicest and most sensible in the group, saying nice things about other candidates before offering how his opinion is different. My jaw dropped though when, during a live debate, they played a clip of Fiorina right on cue. The entire debate is practically scripted, each candidate knew exactly how long they had before the buzzer went off, expected almost every single question. Jeb Bush didn't take any risks other than to say some dangerously sensible things about civil rights, he mostly hung back and let the freaks go at it. I feel bad for Rubio, he had none of his usual charisma. He gave the, "my mom was a coal miner and my father worked for years as a goat ball licker" schlock and I think some people in the audience fell asleep. He looked nervous yet robotic throughout the entire affair: wide eyed, no inflection, and got little crowd reaction. He had the most lines that sounded like he was reciting a script. And his ears seem to have grown, he just looked like a goofball. Doc Carson did fine for someone that has no chance with the GOP crowd. He was dorky, often sensible, and lacked the car salesman delivery that most of the other candidates have, like Jimmy Carter! He openly mentioned during the debate how he was being ignored and he was. For these reasons I was completely unprepared when he dropped the word, "tithing." I expected him to say how we don't need social services because charitable Christians will donate all the time and money needed to take care of the less fortunate-- he did a 180' and what he was referring to was a flat tax. No pizzas in sight but not far removed from the 9/9/9 plan. Trump must be the craziest, right? Nope, Huckabee stole the show in that venue. The friendly, smiling pastor that plays bass guitar is dead and buried, he is an angry, scowling Nixon character. I'm sorry, the amount of crazy poo poo he said became a fever dream to me, the highlight for me is when he said all taxes should be replaced with a flat "consumption tax," which should include a consumption tax on prostitution. I'm for legalizing vices but you could sense the palpable dismay from the audience at hearing-- from a pastor-- something so off the Republican talking points or condoning a victimless crime. Buzzword salad: Saul Alinsky, secular progressive, labor laws, regulations, and many more that I lost track of. "Caliphate the size of Indiana." The same language they used against Clinton and Obama was used, "He's a divider not a uniter."
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Thank you, I didn't write down which amendments Huckabee (and someone else, I think?) cited so I left it out. Yup, Constitutional rights for microorganisms. This seems like a legit, quality copy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbCwc4d71eQ I missed the first ten minutes of the debate, Rubio looked good at first and got a round of applause.
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