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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Im_Special posted:

And why is my Firefox icon grey (again, not my picture but exact same thing I'm seeing).


Programs can set their tile colours for the Start Menu and because Firefox and Chrome have a comparably quick turn around they have already implemented that feature.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



dissss posted:

Also there doesn't appear to be any policy to change the default homepage and search provider in Edge.
They've been slowly rolling new policies out as they make Edge more functional - homepages is 'Configure corporate Home pages' or 'Configure Home pages' depending on what version you're on, Search is still AWOL because Bing needs the market share.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Atomizer posted:

It's more like MS didn't care if you bought a Win7 OEM key for your own build, then swapped out the mobo or nuked that system and build a new one, reinstalling Win7 with the same key (and license.)
It actually did but most of the time wouldn't enforce it because hobbyists are such a small slice of the market. OEM licenses have always been machine specific and that is generally interpreted to be motherboard determined - DEs are just a much more streamlined way of enforcing that restriction.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



fishmech posted:

Er, what? You've been able to just purchase them online for several years, but Microsoft pretty much always keeps it at the MSRP, while you can get pretty nice discounts from retailers.

For instance, here's where you can buy Windows 10 Home direct from Microsoft, it's $119: https://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-10-Home/productID.319937100
But if you buy a physical copy of Windows 10 Home OEM from Newegg, it's only $99: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416892&cm_re=windows_10_home-_-32-416-892-_-Product
That's not a discount you muppet, it's a different product.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Yes. You'd need to do a fresh install, but the upgrade process doesn't invalidate your 7 key.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I'm honestly glad I downloaded the exclusive Windows 10 Anniversary Ninja Cat Gif.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Buttcoin purse posted:

Does that stop it downloading Candy Crush Soda Saga? :pray:
I haven't had any ads, or surprise apps or anything going on since I upgraded to Windows 10 Home on launch. All I did was uninstall and turn stuff off in the beginning using the Settings menu instead of using registry hacks and powershell.


At work we're going to move ~180 seats to Enterprise instead of staying with Pro because DirectAccess owns bones in our environment.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I think the key thing is that Microsoft is not a hardware manufacturer and therefore has nothing to gain by starving out hardware manufacturers through licensing fees and shrinking their Candy Crush install base.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



GreatGreen posted:

. It's bad enough that the list is cluttered with the obnoxious grey pin icons next to every item in the list (yes, thank you for the constant reminder that the items I pinned in the list are in fact pinned in that list, I can't tell that they are pinned there by only the fact that they are pinned there).
To be fair, that's because you can have items that aren't pinned there.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Now that's a hack message.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



There's two extremes.


Old programs that will assume administrative rights and therefore need you to turn off the UAC to work properly because they don't know how to ask for them if they don't have it. These are bad programs and the correct answer is to launch as administrator when you can't outright migrate from them.

New(er) programs that require administrative rights for specific functions and are programmed to launch with no rights but ask for rights when necessary. This is good practice. Turning off UAC will often disable the requests for elevation, but that leaves the program in a state where it needs administrative rights because it launched at a low level but you've turned off its ability to ask for them and now it can't do something properly.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



GI_Clutch posted:

I am rating this Anniversary Edition a 0/10 stars. I installed on it on my work laptop and have encountered the following so far.
  • .Net 3.5 is no longer installed. It prompts me to install it when I run something that needs it, but it says it can't download it. Whatever, I can manually download the installer.
  • It uninstalled IIS from my machine. I go to Programs and Features to reinstall it. It tells me I need to download files from Windows update to install IIS. WTF? OK, I hit the button to do so. It throws an error message that it can't download updates. Great. I guess I'll just not work on my project today.
Given that it's a work computer it's very likely these are both being caused by a group policy pointing you at a WSUS that doesn't have these files available on it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Klyith posted:

Why did I have windows firewall service disabled? Because it sometimes turns itself back on despite having set it to be off on private networks, and that breaks my shares. I guess now I have to decide between 2 ways my computer can be broken, because MS decided to turn the firewall into critical system infrastructure for some goddamn reason. Yaaaay!
Make an Allow All rule for inbound outbound traffic and just leave it on. You'll have the same behavior as with it turned off but Microsoft won't interfere for your own good.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I've used the same copy of CDisplay since Geocities was a thing, and after searching for it it seems that's also when development stopped, so I imagine the setup file is still clean.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



They finally got around to pushing Anniversary to me, and it's nice to see how much of a design mess they made of Start to appease people complaining about pushing a button for all apps.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



In my experience it will just delay it until you're not using the computer. Or it'll just say "wow, we couldn't restart for reasons do you want to reschedule?"


It should also not be playing klaxons when it does reboot.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



But then I can't run Candy Crush on it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Khablam posted:

Forced updates solve a larger issue than a bug in webcams introduces.
A lack of confidence in updates causes the problem that created forced updates in the first place.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Khablam posted:

This isn't even partially true.
What do you are the reason for forced updates as being?

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Have you tried changing your background?

I know with my setup it always calculates off the last background set, even if the screen it was set on is no longer detected.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



It's apples and oranges. Old viruses had less to work with but they were also breaking into simpler systems with less security.

Inarguably you had to have technically sophisticated code to accomplish anything with the thin margin of resources you could steal, but your targets were rarely networked so there wasn't a lot to actually do other than bust things. Compared to modern viruses which can take advantage of so many resources that the whole point of most of them is to outright steal them invisibly from you, but need to be socially sophisticated to get through to their targets.

Old viruses might be small and clever, but they're not using png transparencies to assemble malware on the local system clever.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Cortana is the definitely the number one cause of anything going wrong with Start or search.

I don't have it either because it's disabled in my region, but several times people in the office have changed their region reenabling it and experienced issues nobody else has.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



My favourite is the "Updates were installed! Click here for more information" and when you click it just opens up Settings where it says "We installed some updates".

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I mean, I feel like the people who experience significant issues with Windows 10 and the people who root out everything through powershell that was intentionally and stupidly baked into the system are somewhat inter-related, but you can't unpin and hide things from All Apps, and some people just prefer working from a list rather than a bunch of spinny tiles that take up the screen.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



If it was the Anniversary update then that's why it took so long and creates a windows.old, as it's essentially a full service pack style update. There are in fact security updates in there that Microsoft didn't split out because the whole idea behind Windows 10 is not supporting multiple branches of code, and Anniversary has a significant change in compatibility checks which is why it uninstalls some third party software on update if that software hasn't been updated to a compatible version within the last four months you've been deferring the update.

If you want to turn off Cortana you can just make sure you're signed out, then it's just a generic search for your computer; you can set your region to somewhere where Cortana is disabled for now (I'm in New Zealand where none of its features are rolled out); or reportedly you can regedit this: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Windows Search\AllowCortana = 0

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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isndl posted:

That's the thing, Windows lets you set volumes on a per app basis with the mixer. Try right clicking the volume button in the tray.
Apps don't appear on the sound mixer.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



astral posted:

That's not working period, but there's a feature request for it:

feedback-hub:?contextid=68&feedbackid=23cdf6d2-c52d-467a-b840-4a84d02ca51d&form=1&src=2
And here I was giving them the benefit of the doubt that it was something to do with the sandboxing of them. Nope, just can't figure out how to add and remove them from sound mixer so they're manually hidden all the time :cripes:

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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dissss posted:

Desktop apps are still 'Apps' and are even labelled that way in system settings.
It's just a terminology thing. According to Microsoft there are UWP Apps (Previously 'Modern Apps') and Desktop Apps. Most other people when they say "apps" mean UWP Apps and use other terminology dating back further than Windows 8 to refer to anything else. After a while people will get used to calling both "apps" even though they work differently and occupy two different environs and then Microsoft will change their internal terminology again to be "Apps" and "Apps for Business".

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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The shared line of pixels is actually the corner of the screen, but because those are areas where Windows puts a bunch of icons like window closing and file menus it also sets a 'speed threshold' for the pointer to be moving at before it will allow it onto the second screen.

Just ram your pointer into the corner and it'll come shooting out on the other screen.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I look after about 90 machines on CBB and haven't had any issues with it in the six months since we made the change. That said, I've had no issues with Home either, and that's probably just due to being in a region where Microsoft doesn't care to advertise and Cortana is turned off.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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It keeps user profile directories and everything stored there, kills the core windows directories like program files and program data, and moves windows to windows.old like an update. Directories that aren't created by a windows install aren't touched providing they are outside of the windows structure that gets nuked - so like c:\porn\ is safe but c:\program files\porn\ isn't.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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You are technically incorrect. The worst kind of incorrect.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Generally yes it will work. The offer has supposedly expired, but it doesn't seem to have been turned off, but everybody is hesitant to say whether it will definitely work or not because you never know if it's been quietly turned off since that one time you yourself did it.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Bad RAM is one of the worst issues to have because it's typically not immediately apparent but affects the stability of literally anything your computer is doing after BIOS.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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I prefer VLC over Windows Media Player just for the reason that it isn't primarily built to corral me into setting up a media library for it to manage.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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If you're behind a WSUS you can lock down updates anyway until they're tested working.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I've personally ridden out Home's restart nags (a message in the notification centre saying I needed to restart) for up to two weeks before I finally get around to rebooting. If anything my complaint is that it doesn't reboot without me.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Double Punctuation posted:

If an important task can't handle being paused and started again, that's the fault of the application developer. That stuff should be done in a service, not in the console.

If you're running important network services that need 99.99999% availability, you shouldn't be running them on Windows 10.
Like, 100% agree, but application developers are lovely and the more successful and embedded in their industry they are the shittier they are. We have two that cost tens of thousands of dollars a year yet still haven't been rewritten to be capable of using more than a single CPU core.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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[quote="Klyith" post=""473689851"]
times i've been pwned by a botnet and lost work: 0
[/quote]
That's not how botnets work.

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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

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Housh posted:

Uh....so I just booted up the laptop with the SSD from my desktop and it booted Windows 10 fine. How does that even work with my cd key? Is it going to ask to activate?

I was planning on using the laptop's Windows 10 Home key but wtf.....I guess I don't have to fresh install windows now?

edit: I'm just going to clean install and put in the proper key. Everything has gone goofy but impressive it boots up.
Since your laptop previously had Windows 10 installed on it it will already have a hardware profile key stored in the BIOS and that's more than likely just transferred to the new SSD.

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