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GlyphGryph posted:Why do people keep making Republican's black? Republicans are very obviously White/Red, with Democrats are predominantly blue with a smattering of other colours in their rainbow deck. Black mana decks typically use life or graveyards as a resource ie: most republican (black) creatures you play will hurt you but hurt your opponent more.
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Necc0 posted:Black mana decks typically use life or graveyards as a resource ie: most republican (black) creatures you play will hurt you but hurt your opponent more. Except for the graveyard bit, isn't that pretty common in Red as well?
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GlyphGryph posted:Except for the graveyard bit, isn't that pretty common in Red as well? Red is for the wanton destruction of things and less about death where Black is typically for death, disease, and demons.
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The colour pie: White: Small-medium creatures, defense, life gain, mass creature buffs. Small creature tokens. Order, civilization, religion. Soldiers and angel creatures. Mass-destruction and removal, but either hitting both sides or with compensation for the affected player. Enchantments and similar effects that limit what either player can do. Plains. Green: Relatively inexpensive medium-large creatures, huge creatures with Trample. Small-medium creature tokens. Fast growth and mana-acceleration. Killing anything but creatures directly. Making one creature fight another. Life-gain. Large or long-term creature buffs. Creature-based card draw. Putting creatures into play directly. Wilderness and nature. Forests. Red: Instant damage, small-medium aggressive creatures, sorceries and instants with immediate and direct effects. Dragons. Sometimes artifact-related effects. Blowing up poo poo like lands and artifacts, but not intangible things like enchantments. Explosions. Mountains. Blue: Card draw and sorting, inefficient or defensive small-medium creatures or huge inefficient krakens. Flying creatures. Instants or sorceries which stall for time. Artifacts. Returning things to your opponent's hand or tapping them, but never dealing with them for good once they're on the board. Moving cards directly from your opponent's library to their graveyard ("milling"). Card draw, card draw, and card draw. Feeling smarter than the other player. Islands. Black: Middle-of-the-road creatures, or efficient ones with drawbacks. Demons. Life steal. Getting creatures back from the graveyard, or putting them into play from the graveyard. Sacrificing life or creatures for immediate benefit. Killing creatures, but not much else. Forcing your opponent to discard from their hand. Card draw at the expense of life. Death, decay, and power at any cost. Swamps. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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How do you blow up an explosion? That sounds hardcore.
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Tenzarin posted:How do you blow up an explosion? That sounds hardcore. I don't know, if it can be done, Red will find a way!
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GlyphGryph posted:Why do people keep making Republican's black? Black is the color of capitalism, self above all, and ruthless amorality. It's hard to use the color pie to represent politics though because they encompass too much stuff. Anarchism and Fascism are easily both white red. Anarchism takes white's concern for group wellbeing and mechanical concern for equality and couples it with red's willingness to use violence and rejection of hierarchy. Fascism takes white's focus on hierarchy, group identity, "we know what's best for the world," etc. and mixes it with red's hero cult and belief in action above all else.
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there is a massive lack of green though jill stein as a 1/1 sapling for 1G stoutfish fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Black is the color of capitalism, self above all, and ruthless amorality. I usually see Fascism as White/Black, for community (white) and capitalism and hunger for power at the expense of others (black). Officially, fascism is white according to WotC, as an example of how white does not always mean "good." Anarchism is hard to pin down, but it could easily be just Red (for individualism and a rejection of order). A more nuanced Anarchism would be RWU, for the aforementioned, plus community (white) and experimental idealism (blue).
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Deep Hurting fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Black is the color of capitalism, self above all, and ruthless amorality.
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GlyphGryph posted:Nah. I don't think I've ever seen a single capitalist black card. All the capitalist-like I can think of off the top of my head in-game are white or blue. Capitalism really doesn't seem to fit any of the themes associated with black. That's not me saying it. It's the lead designer. Commerce and trade have been in blue, sure. As far as I know, white hasn't had any connection to capitalism since like Fallen Empires. And thematically? It's dead on. Black is selfish and ambitious. It's the color of Greed. Devouring Greed. Hoarder's Greed. Burden of Greed. Archdemon of Greed. Theros went deep into giving black control over gold with Gild, Macar the Gold-Cursed, and Gray Merchant. Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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Aug 13, 2015 21:45
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The Republicans could easily be blue because they do a lot of tricky, manipulative poo poo like voter ID laws and other forms of voter suppression. Even if it doesn't fit with the meaning of red/blue in the context of American politics.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:That's not me saying it. It's the lead designer. Commerce and trade have been in blue, sure. As far as I know, white hasn't had any connection to capitalism since like Fallen Empires.  how soon we forget (13 year old trading cards).
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 I guess I'd rather have cheap puns than thematic game mechanic accuracy. Deep Hurting fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Aug 13, 2015 |
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   just didn't have the heart to post my first draft of that one 
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GlyphGryph posted:Why do people keep making Republican's black? Republicans are very obviously White/Red, with Democrats are predominantly blue with a smattering of other colours in their rainbow deck. They're using what the colors symbolize in MTG instead of what races/parties they match.
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 I wanted to make a Herman Cain one but I don't know enough about Pokemon.
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Deep Hurting posted:I wanted to make a Herman Cain one but I don't know enough about Pokemon. 
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These cards are funny as gently caress, but honestly not fast or powerful enough for my blood. Where is the card with cascade?
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Hey guys, I just put together my new republican deck, it's red black and white 
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The problem with caring about the color pie for this thread is that the GOP is blue/black, but it feels weird calling them blue for the obvious reason and it feels weird calling them black now that Powell and Carson are both disgraced, and also for the obvious reason.
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I wanna be the yoogest and most luxurious like no one ever was 
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5 retreat cost lamao
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GlyphGryph posted:Nah. I don't think I've ever seen a single capitalist black card. All the capitalist-like I can think of off the top of my head in-game are white or blue. Capitalism really doesn't seem to fit any of the themes associated with black. Really? You haven't been playing M:tG all that long then.... 
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Feral_Shofixti posted:Really? You haven't been playing M:tG all that long then.... Was gunna say. There is a faction in this game that represents the Catholic Church if it was run by the undead mob; who's main lore is making people take out loans with their souls as collateral. It's heavy black and white.
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So you can make Planeswalkers too, but it's a separate link:
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The best thing about this card is not only is the artist an actual racist, they assigned 1488 as the ID of the card in WOTC's database: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1488
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foobardog posted:The best thing about this card is not only is the artist an actual racist, they assigned 1488 as the ID of the card in WOTC's database: http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1488 Whoa I thought that was an edit. 
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Abner Cadaver II posted:Whoa I thought that was an edit. To be fair to WOTC, this was from the old days. They've tended to go out of their way to be inclusive and respectful with their art and stories with more modern sets, much to the chagrin of angry grognards upset they aren't pandered to constantly.
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This thread needs a bump. I've decided that elected Presidents are Planeswalkers. Does that include Al Gore? No, not "Al Gore." MOON EMPEROR AL GORE! 
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