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TEAYCHES posted:there is zero reason for lessig to run with sanders in the race other than to be a delusional egotist so you admit he has a good reason. also the young turks can be pretty drat dumb sometimes
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This is what makes me think it's a scam and not egotism. Surely this guy has worked with ad people who have told him about the use of the word "hack" here. The only reason he could have for ignoring them and not using language that the little guy will understand ( that's who this campaign is supposed to be for, right?) is if the whole thing is about skimming off money from silicon valley types who do use the word hack in the non political sense on a daily basis.
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Am I misremembering or did some of the MayOne money end up disappearing mysteriously? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBxm-LcQyt0
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Exclamation Marx posted:Am I misremembering or did some of the MayOne money end up disappearing mysteriously? If they reached $5 million, then there would be matching funds from wealthy donors to raise the amount of money to $10 million. It seems the matching donors never materialized. Also, looking at their spending raised eyebrows. http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2014/09/16/mayday-pacs-missing-5-million-the-groups-political-spending-leaves-much-to-be-desired/
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Exclamation Marx posted:Am I misremembering or did some of the MayOne money end up disappearing mysteriously? This is basically this kind of 'activism' in a nutshell. A staffer said something lovely about how someone was 'disparaging veterans'? NO gently caress THAT HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT D&D. Man I fuckin play D&D and even I know that's not the part of that statement you go after!
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I'd love to see Lessig in a actual Debate. "...the next question is for Mr Lessig. What would be your policy towards Russian and the Ukraine? Well, once again that would be a post-day one issue. So again, it would be up to whatever my Vice-President, who I will be selecting 6 months from now, after I have secured the nomination decides to do when he replaces me."
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I saw "Lessig announces presidential run" the other day and I was trying to figure out why the name looked familiar, then it hit me  . I wish Boyko would come back and post again. I mean, this is fertile ground for talking up a Lessig presidential run!
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OniPanda posted:I saw "Lessig announces presidential run" the other day and I was trying to figure out why the name looked familiar, then it hit me SedanChair's terrorism scared him off. 
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Aug 19, 2015 14:00
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I can't believe that this man's plan is to be a less effective William Henry Harrison.
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oldswitcheroo posted:I remember talking about return on investment on their big reddit thread and someone told me "Lessig is a Harvard professor, I'm pretty sure they'll invest in high RoI tactics" as if they had any inkling what those were. Serious question: What tactics are high RoI? Yard Signs? Long Form Infomercials from 10PM to 4AM? Edit: Full Disclosure. I am Lawrence Lessig. Dr. Arbitrary has issued a correction as of 01:00 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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Aug 20, 2015 00:56
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Lessig should just stick to writing about Copyright law, because everything else he's done has been absolutely pathetic.
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Why cant his forehead fit in the screen
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Didn't The Young Turks jerk this guy off surprisingly hard, too? I remember some legitimate mainstream source was blowing him and his dumb 'no see if you make a SuperPAC for ME, then I'LL stop superPACs, with your SuperPAC money! Get money out of politics by putting money in my politics!" Yeah, given how smart Cenk usually is about US politics (and only US politics, his understanding of world affairs leaves much to be desired) it was quite disappointing to see him supporting Lessig's schemes that are inferior in every way to already existing ideas from serious politicians and organizations (e.g. Sanders, and to a lesser extent even Cenk's own Wolf-PAC). I think Cenk and Larry are friends in real life so TYT's coverage on him is inherently biased.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Serious question: What tactics are high RoI? http://www.amazon.com/Get-Out-Vote-Increase-Turnout/dp/0815732678 This book does a pretty good job of explaining it. The TL;DR version of it is this: A lot of the conventional wisdom about what effective campaigning entails is flawed. People think that yard signs and TV ads are a big deal, but really the data doesn't bear that out. Basically TV ads only make a significant difference once you've spent enough to reach a saturation point, and the cost for every additional vote gained by it is enormous compared to other tactics. (This is especially true in smaller elections with lower turnout.) Other poo poo like robocalls are so ineffective that the candidates would be better off using the money to light cigars. The playbook for what works is direct voter contact, voter registration drives, and door to door campaigning. That's one of the ways that Obama was able to upset Hillary in the 08 primary. He had more field offices, more volunteers doing phonebanking and more paid campaign staff helping with get out the vote efforts. Basically what people call "ground game" is what gives you the most bang for your buck in terms of getting people to vote. Which also makes sense on an intuitive level, I see and ignore 70 commercials a day, I may recognize a name from a yard sign, but that doesn't motivate me to go vote. A brief conversation with a real person face to face is what is going to stick in my mind. Lessig blew all the Mayone PAC money on radio and Internet ads, because he's naive, and because he wanted to please the media people who gave him coverage in the first place.
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Prosopagnosiac posted:http://www.amazon.com/Get-Out-Vote-Increase-Turnout/dp/0815732678 Looks like a new edition is coming out next month. I wonder what's changed in the last seven years.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Looks like a new edition is coming out next month. I wonder what's changed in the last seven years. Yeah, that will be interesting to read about. If I had to guess I think a lot of it will be focused on social media presence and advertising on Facebook and other social media platforms that really didn't exist seven years ago.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:SedanChair's terrorism scared him off. SedanChair is a true hero. also thank you lord satan for the bounty of this election
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Prosopagnosiac posted:Yeah, that will be interesting to read about. If I had to guess I think a lot of it will be focused on social media presence and advertising on Facebook and other social media platforms that really didn't exist seven years ago. I suspect that well designed Facebook campaigns might actually work, compared with random banner ads.
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What the hell is the citizen equality act? It sounds like some drat transhumanist thing.
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Wanamingo posted:What the hell is the citizen equality act? It sounds like some drat transhumanist thing. It's like republican schemes to give people vouchers/tax credits for healthcare expenses. Except the voucher/credit is for your donation to a political campaign.
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I think I read a book by Lawrence Lessig once. I think it was Free Culture. It was decent iirc.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I suspect that well designed Facebook campaigns might actually work, compared with random banner ads. Yeah, could be. I think the important thing is that it isn't good enough to get the voter to know your candidate's name or even to get them to 'like" your candidate. You have to get them invested. Good name ID and decent favorability ratings aren't enough to beat a strong opponent if their supporters are committed and energized and yours aren't. You can get name recognition up a million ways and favorability isn't that hard either, but the only way you can get uncertain voters to commit to your candidate is to ask them. There are some choices you can't really make for other people, no matter how shrewd your messaging is, and whether they'll get off their asses and vote is one of them. I think there can be real value in the sort of social media campaigning that encourages direct conversations and personal investment (IE: "So you hyped for Bernie?" "Not really..." "Oh, why not?"), but just tweeting into the void asking people to post their favorite emojis is probably pretty worthless.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:56
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So why can this guy get money out of politics and sanders can't??
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maker posted:So why can this guy get money out of politics and sanders can't?? He has a super pac, Bernie is a dumb noob who thinks he can win without one (lol, idiot)
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oldswitcheroo posted:Also looking through all the stories, it looks like they mostly bought radio and internet ad spots. Money well spent chums! why didn't they hire campaign organizers and get out the vote people? no one gives a poo poo about ads if you dont have people on the ground
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Top City Homo posted:why didn't they hire campaign organizers and get out the vote people? no one gives a poo poo about ads if you dont have people on the ground That would require social interaction.
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I am coming to the sad conclusion that the internet is a terrible place for idiots.
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potato of destiny posted:I am coming to the sad conclusion that the internet is a terrible place for idiots. goondolences
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lessig's plan for dealing congress: elect 50 mini-lessigs http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8033838 quote:Yet some are skeptical that would be enough. Some worry that a referendum president might be stranded in office, facing a Congress unwilling to act, and a mandate limited to a single, if fundamental issue. How long should the referendum president wait around? What if Congress never passes the promised reform? finally i will be able to vote for brian bokyo
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If Bernie is stopped by Lessig, it was never meant to be in the first place.
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So did we ever figure out if Lessig is actually mentally ill or just running a con? His messages are decently formatted and use complete sentences with lots of good buzzwords, but everything is... off. He'll act like he's answering a question, but respond with a complete non sequitur. He keeps huffily insisting that his "Referendum Presidency (tm)" means he doesn't have to deal with every other issue, but won't say who will be dealing with this stuff. A POTUS and CIC will have a thousand decisions to make before he's even sworn in. You can't just ignore cabinet appointments, diplomatic postings, military decision-making, and everything else just because they're not your preferred issue. Who is he trying it kid (besides clueless single-issue liberals)? I also find it hilarious that he keeps getting annoyed with people for asking questions about his vague non-plan he already touched on them in his announcement.
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Lessig is a totally scampaigner. MayOne Pac was a scampaign and this is too.
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Zikan posted:lessig's plan for dealing congress: elect 50 mini-lessigs Robert Anton Wilson's plan was better: quote:The Guns and Dope Party is a United States political party envisioned by cult author Robert Anton Wilson. While the party has proposals that can be considered generally libertarian and anarchist in its principles, it presents these positions in a facetious manner, and advocates extremely absurd things, for example replacing one third of Congress with ostriches. This is consistent with Robert Anton Wilson’s and chaotic Discordianism’s tradition of advocating freedom through parody and surrealism. Indeed, this school of thought regards dogma as the main root of humanity’s evils and holds the view that people shouldn’t take things - or themselves - too seriously.
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His criticism of Bernie Sanders is that Bernie Sanders is trying to win the election. Clearly, the ideal way to campaign is to lose (and get lots of money and notoriety for your trouble).
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Top City Homo posted:why didn't they hire campaign organizers and get out the vote people? no one gives a poo poo about ads if you dont have people on the ground Because despite this being the overwhelming conclusion of all GOTV research of the past 20 years, idiots pay more attention to ads, and they think that other idiots are voting based on it, when even the most idiotic person is likely not making that decision based on ads.
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