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steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Given the number of threads devoted to Bethesda games, I think It'd be just fair to have a thread for the European counterpart of the Elder Scrolls series.

I've been replaying the entire Gothic trilogy, and ultimately I think it's superior to the Elder Scrolls, both mechanically, and from an art direction angle.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 00:19

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steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Line Feed posted:

Haven't played Gothic 3, but I heard it's alright?

It's very buggy, the last bug-catching patch was released like three months ago.

But if you install the patches, it's a good game, arguably with a larger world than Skyrim, and with better design.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 01:56

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

[quote="Node" post="448943113"] more console friendly they started to get worse but they're still pretty good games.
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G 1&2 were incredibly console friendly, given they were designed to be controlled without mouse, and with controllers. They just failed to secure the rights to release those games on the consoles.

# ¿ Aug 14, 2015 01:58

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

7c Nickel posted:

Uhh huh.

I don't think I'm cherry picking here, this is the 1st screenshot on GMG's Gothic 3: Gold Edition page. Can you post some examples of the strong art direction because all I saw in my search was stiff looking generic medieval European fantasy.

This is a really random picture of a generic enemy against a cliff wall. Speaks about the effort of promoting the G3 in the West, I'll post some of my own screens in a bit.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 21:49

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

drkeiscool posted:

IMO, Gothic 3 beat Skyrim at it's own game, back when just Oblivion was out.

Quite honestly, Gothic offers a more varied environment than Skyrim, while having about as good a story (meaning a bad, but serviceable story)

# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 21:51

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

FruitPunchSamurai posted:

The art has always been pretty standard fantasy in the Gothic series. The draw of the Gothic series for me is that they have open worlds that are actually fun to explore because they're not so huge and empty. There are no copy pasted dungeons like there are in Oblivion and Skyrim so exploring is usually rewarded with a unique experience.

Actually, in Gothic 1 and 2, I really liked the strange blend of realism and expressionism - even mundane enemies such as wolves were at the same time almost cartoonish, and it created a unique atmsphere. Not to mention the fantastic enemies such as molerats and and scavengers.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 21:52

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Yo, here I some pictures I made in five minutes that are better than the poo poo presented upthread:

# ¿ Aug 19, 2015 22:15

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:19

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Well, first - they are ten years older than Skyrim, second - they don't really present the full effect of shaders.

Like, Gothic makes it quite ridiculous that there's no worthwhile dynamic lighting in Bethesda games.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:29

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Also I guess it's matter of personal taste, I found the Skyrim world embarrassingly plain.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:30

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

I never bothered playing Risen, but yeah, it's a Piranha Bites game, so feel free to talk about it.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:35

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Re: Like, Gothic makes it quite ridiculous that there's no worthwhile dynamic lighting in Bethesda games.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:46

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

I can't recommend a Rien game, but you should try Gothic 1 & 2, you can probably get them both for a total of $10 from GOG.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:54

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Internet Kraken posted:

Graphics don't make a setting interesting. Lighting usually doesn't either unless your doing something weird and artistic with it. What you posted was a bunch of fairly generic medieval landscapes, and those would stay that way no matter how good the graphics were.

Well, what original landscapes are there in either Oblivion or Skyrim?

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 00:56

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Internet Kraken posted:

Never said they had many, though Shivering Isles in Oblivion was more interesting than what they normally do.

Personally I think Oblivion and Skyrim both look very nice in some areas but I'd still say the landscapes are generic. That doesn't make them bad, but there's nothng special about it. Saying Gothic had much better art design implies something really unique about it but from the screenshots you posted I'm not seeing much to set it above Oblivion/Skyrim.

I honestly think Gothic is nicer, but it's difficult to express in static images, especially whey you are talking about games that take 100+ hours to explore.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:05

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

I can imagine people playing Gothic / Gothic 2 for a bit and getting really frustrated because they got murdered trying to kill a mosquito.

Persevere, and enjy the evolution from a wimp into a literal god.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 01:09

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 23:10

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Sankis posted:

It had such a great atmosphere. It also had some pretty sharp, fun writing.

I love that the Nameless Hero is a total idiot who doesn't understand his own role in the story. When the climax of Gothic 2 comes, he just shrugs and shake his head in disbelief.

# ¿ Aug 20, 2015 21:16

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