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Effectronica posted:So, to sum things up, a significant fraction of people are not able to respond accurately to my posts You could try helping them understand, refine your rhetoric, and make sure your terms are clear, instead of shrugging your shoulders and giving up any hope and getting mad when you're misunderstood. I don't think any philosophical theory was utterly pristine in its first draft.
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Effectronica posted:Another, better example, is plate tectonics, which was proposed in the 1910s but not adopted until the 1960s, because the means by which continental drift could occur were not discovered until that time. While plate tectonics was true, it was also outside the bounds of naturalism because there was no natural mechanism by which it could happen. So, then, are you proposing a means presently thought of as supernatural is influencing the adaptation and evolution of lifeforms, and we only need discover the mechanism for it to become natural?
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asdf32 posted:I'm still not clear on what the argument is for the idea that we actually have accurate beliefs more than expected. AFAIK She's arguing that beliefs w/r/t how the affect evolutionary fitness are/were far more accurate then what we should have for our weird ape brains and imperfect senses to be the only vectors for beliefs, especially considering how brief human communication has been around compared to the evolutionary time scale. Therefore something else must be influencing beliefs, and since ape brains and imperfect sense are the only currently natural means of sharing beliefs we have confirmed, something seemingly supernatural must be actually something that is actually natural i.e. something akin to telepathy is real life and it's how beliefs got so accurate before the development of communication tools like language and writing. Plate Tectonics basics in 1910s : movement in the mantle discovered in 1960s :: Accuracy of beliefs as it applies to evolution : telepathy. Once again, as far as I can gather, anyway.
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