The Lord of the Rings Online: Not so Gundabad at all.

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Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

More layoffs at Turbine, apparently: http://massivelyop.com/2016/07/07/rumor-more-layoffs-for-turbine/

# ¿ Jul 7, 2016 21:11

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:06

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I see the horse combat hasn't gotten much better (although I guess it's easier to kill stuff now?). Does that go away after rohan or are they still trying to integrate that with future content?

# ¿ Mar 28, 2017 20:53

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

https://lotro.com/en/game/articles/letter-executive-producer-rob-ciccolini-february-2021

Update 29 is supposed to be this month. Maybe next week hopefully? It has a minor graphics tech update, but it's a weird add because it basically only affects indoor zones. It does make moria and thorin's gate and some other places look a lot better though. Wildwoods should be pretty sweet. Nice to have a level 40 zone that isn't Misty Mountains or Angmar or whatever level 40 is now.

# ¿ Mar 11, 2021 18:12

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I'm not sure if those servers have faster or slower leveling, I thought the speed at which they were referring to was how fast they are going to do the progression unlocks (i.e., you can go into Moria now).

I'm going to try to get on Treebeard when it launches tomorrow

# ¿ Jun 29, 2021 21:38

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

On bullroarer during earlier testing, that difficulty npc was also in the other starting areas (celondim and i assume also thorins hall and michael delving). Dunno if that changed though.

People are mad that -60% xp is still too fast? Man, what do they want? That's probably slower than retail was in 2007.

# ¿ Jun 30, 2021 16:01

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I'd say that it's less than it's confounding and more that it sucks. There's way too much crap on the store, there's too many ways they try to nickle and dime you. Then again you can earn LOTRO points I guess? It's not the greatest layout especially when you compare it to things like Star Trek Online or Neverwinter where the content is all free and they just try to get you when you get to the endgame. LOTRO, however, also does that with LIs. So it's less than optimal.

My $200 lifetime sub to that game remains one of the best deals I've ever done

# ¿ Jul 9, 2021 15:30

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

There hasn't been any confirmed details about that in terms of either scope or timeframe. It is just something "they want to do" and are hoping to have done probably to ride on that Amazon LOTR hype (if that series ever comes out).

The only graphics update that has come so far is a system that fixes normal maps which basically hardly worked before and tweaks some of the lighting. It's definitely an improvement, but it only works in areas that have specific light sources (i.e., indoors and in Moria).

edit: minutes after I posted this, Amazon dropped the release date for their LOTR series which is sept 2, 2022. You've got a year, Standing Stone Games. Get crackin'

Cutedge fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 2, 2021

# ¿ Aug 2, 2021 23:14

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

https://store-new.standingstonegames.com/gundabad

Fate of Gundabad up for pre-sale
release date Nov 10

$39.99 / $79.99 / $129.99 (lol)

Brawler comes with all editions, to be released October 13th (update 31). This means the Brawler and the new LI system are mostly locked as they have been shown on Bullroarer (probably). Maybe one more round of beta? I know some people were saying it is not quite ready to go, but that's SSG to a t.

# ¿ Sep 27, 2021 19:29

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

It's pretty brawly but I don't think it's Broly. :downs:

Some people online were saying to hold on to legendary items as they may change it to give more stuff later if they determine that some more things need to be compensated for in the appraisal / compensation process, but I have no idea if that's just something someone made up. All I know is that the new system is pretty confusing at first and having to go and buy the things to slot it seems cumbersome, but it's a lot more fire and forget than the old LI system. I have no idea why they didn't just keep the old system and take off the level cap on items. At least this one makes more sense from a lore perspective than "look at all these priceless weapons that man does not have the skill to make in the third age let me throw it in this buzz saw for scraps"

# ¿ Oct 14, 2021 22:41

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Evil Fluffy posted:

I really hope Lotro doesn't end up in the same ultra nickle-and-dime hell

I hate to tell you this but you're about a decade too late with that concern

# ¿ Oct 21, 2021 20:43

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Not sure if anyone has said this yet but don't throw away Legendary XP items because apparently they're going to use them for a battlepass system or something. Because, yes, they still drop in hobbit presents :rolleyes:

# ¿ Oct 21, 2021 20:44

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I just love running on Deadly and actually having to pay attention to the game. It's still not elite trees in the Old Forest bad as live was at launch, but it makes the game a lot more interesting imho

Are other goons playing on Treebeard? As in, do we have a kin there? I have characters I've been playing there with a friend of mine from time to time, but when I feel like playing on my own I don't know if I should go back to my OG captain on landroval or do something on Treebeard

Cutedge fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Oct 25, 2021

# ¿ Oct 25, 2021 18:44

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8103830

2 of the 3-man instances are being delayed slightly and the reward track for legendary items (season pass or whatever) is delayed to update 31. Expansion still to launch on wednesday.

# ¿ Nov 5, 2021 20:42

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Glass of Milk posted:

One thing I hate is the utterly terrible active click areas for quests, but funding out that you can use "del" to target them and "u" to perform the action (post a sign, etc) has improved my life immeasurably.

I have a lifetime sub and have played the game off and on for 14 years, and honestly it has taken me up until a couple months ago to learn the following:

right click on the name of the thing you want to interact with, not the actual object (unless the object has correct collision)

Obviously, this requires names to be on to work (i think it's 'v'?). There are some stupid flowers or other things you have to do in some of the seasonal content that I was fighting with when I finally figured that out. :doh:

# ¿ Nov 17, 2021 22:47

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

EG7 (Daybreak/Standing Stone Games' parent company) had it's Q3 investor report and there are a couple of interesting tidbits from their presentations (https://www.enadglobal7.com/reports-presentations/).

EG7 INVESTOR PRESENTATION NOVEMBER 2021 posted:

Lord of the Rings Online
� Perennially ranked as a top 10 MMO
� The biggest and the truest simulation of Tolkien�s Middle Earth world online
� Along with Amazon�s new streaming series (reported to be the biggest budget series ever) based on the Lord of the Rings IP, Daybreak is investing in a major revamp to upgrade the visuals, modernize the experience and release on consoles

INTERIM REPORT Q3 2021 posted:

PIRANHA
Piranha celebrated the return of MechWarrior 5 on PlayStation for the first time in over 20 years. Net revenue and adjusted EBITDA for the quarter came in at SEK 47.6 million and SEK -8.4 million, respectively. Although the community reception was very positive, the overall sales on PlayStation had low impact, resulting in an operating loss for the quarter. Piranha has largely finished its development on MechWarrior 5 with limited residual effort for future maintenance. In Q4 2021, as the team further ramps down on MechWarrior 5, the plan is to fully utilize Piranha�s talented team to staff various key projects for the group such as the Lord of the Rings Online update.

I'm kind of optimistic but also kind of terrified.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2021 18:35

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I guess the question is if they really think they can get LOTRO on consoles (lol), will they just fork it and make a completely different feeling game and ultimately leave pc lotro alone? I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possibility. I'm not opposed to a UI revamp, it can't get much worse (famous last words). The combat in LOTRO is also, I dunno it's fine? But it's not great and never has been.

# ¿ Nov 26, 2021 19:05

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

xZAOx posted:

Is this purely "make a new one from scratch" now, buying stuff from a room in Rivendale? Or do you reforge your current old ones?

Yeah, pretty much. There's a button to get traceries based on your old LIs. Aside from that, they are going to use the LI xp items in the new battle pass system or whatever it is, which won't be out until 2022. They dropped some info on that in a live stream I guess but I haven't seen a breakdown of anything so the only thing I know is that it will be account wide and unlocks stuff (hopefully cosmetics etc)

Blackdog420 posted:

Apparently I'm still in Nazgun but no one seems to have logged in for a very long time. Is there a Goon guild in this game anymore?

I'm in Nazgun as well and I see a person on here and there, but I don't even know if I can invite. I keep meaning to go back and play my man captain but now that Endwalker is out I doubt it will happen for awhile.

Kaysette posted:

Was the Minas Morgul content free for a while in 2020 or something?

I think there was a period where it was free for like 2 months. Probably related to the pandemic, actually.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2021 18:06

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

xZAOx posted:

I noticed those 3 don't seem to have the option to buy just the expac quests anymore, which sucks.

Probably because the content is now in the LOTRO store for LOTRO bucks.

# ¿ Dec 7, 2021 19:51

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

The new system is definitely an improvement from "level up this weapon and then throw it in the woodchipper" but everything else about it is kind of a wreck. The biggest fault is that the UI for it is atrocious. I hope it's something they improve in u32 or sooner but I'm not even seeing updates to it on their radar. It's bizarre. Maybe it will come when they put that account pass thing in place?

# ¿ Dec 8, 2021 18:13

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

https://lotro.com/en/game/articles/letter-producer-raninia-%E2%80%93december-2021

They're adding a new 40-45 zone by the Trollshaws in the next update.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2021 23:52

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

People brought up the LI bridles repeatedly during the beta of u30 and basically the response we got was :shrug:

I really wish they would fix Mounted Combat, it's not god awful as a system but I agree with you about the drift. I've always said that if they increased the turn speed of all horses by 25% it would make that system feel miles better but at this point they really haven't touched it in years. Maybe once they get u32 out and the new LI track in they can address it, but I guess it really depends on what their plans for "ohgodthenewamazonshowiscomingoutwehavetodosomething" are

If they really think that they are going to get this game on consoles and get new players playing it, it really does have to be addressed though

# ¿ Dec 22, 2021 19:03

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

The LOTRO website went down for maintenance and so that they could relaunch a new LOTRO.com. Well, it's past the time when it should be up and the LOTRO site is definitely new and different, but mostly because it shows DDO.

We don't have a Standing Stones emote, and we don't have a Daybreak emote either. But it's good to know the platform team that was pretty inept when I was there more than a decade ago is still kicking and therefore :soe:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2022 18:14

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Surprise, update 32 is out

https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-32-release-notes-en
https://www.lotro.com/news/lotro-article-legendary-reward-track-en

edit: task items now show where they are turned in. it's the smallest change but man it is a huge QOL addition

Cutedge fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Feb 16, 2022

# ¿ Feb 16, 2022 19:23

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Glass of Milk posted:

They need to give some info to players about the new systems, like the legendary track. I would never have known where to find it unless I read the specific blog post that talked about it.

I had to ask in world where the button for it was hiding. I'd say it's kind of shocking that they would make a new system and basically make it nearly unfindable but, you know, LOTRO

# ¿ Feb 17, 2022 08:17

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

I still contend that they could do some moderate tweaks to mounted combat to make it acceptable.

The easiest is to increase the turn rate of horses across the board by 20-25%. That alone would make it less like ice skating and generally make the warhorses controllable enough to even use as a regular mount (which right now you basically don't do unless you are only planning on going forward and never turning). Lately, I've also settled on the idea that they should make it so that when you turn, your horse loses speed, which inherently would also increase the turn rate. But yeah, right now the warhorse turning is basically Rohan Drift even on the light horses that have the best turn rate so it becomes go forward, do attacks, maybe slow down and turn, do another pass. It's tedious at best.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2022 19:26

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

All this love for Evendim, and no one is mentioning that it has the best quest in the game: A Striking Absence of Boar

# ¿ Apr 4, 2022 18:56

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

The anniversary is on the 24th, so probably the 20th or so? For some reason I thought it was announced for the 12th but I think I'm getting my wires crossed with 14.

# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 23:01

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Update on wednesday

https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-33-release-notes-en

# ¿ Apr 18, 2022 22:53

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

This is actually awesome to see: https://steamcharts.com/app/212500

Apparently some servers actually are getting queues

# ¿ Apr 22, 2022 18:07

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

They added at least one 40+ zone. Angle is 40+, I think the Wildwoods by Bree is too?

# ¿ Jun 27, 2022 17:57

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Lum_ posted:

Next patch makes PvMP available to all, not just VIP

https://forums.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?695075-Bullroarer-Update-33-1-Beta-1-OPEN

That thread has a lot of people complaining about not being able to quest and farm in raid groups, and I'm kind of surprised that was ever a thing. Not being able to do quests in raid groups is pretty standard with every single MMO on the market. Weird.

Cutedge fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jul 7, 2022

# ¿ Jul 7, 2022 23:01

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

OhFunny posted:

WoW doesn't allow this unless they are specifically raid quests.

same with FFXIV I think. I thought this was pretty standard but maybe I'm just thinking of wow.

# ¿ Jul 19, 2022 08:04

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

"uh, so did anyone test to make sure that the change not be able to get loot or quest credit didn't affect quests for raids themselves?"

Cordovon (Standing Stone Games) posted:

We will be reverting the change to restrict raid groups on landscapes in a game update later this week.

https://forums.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?&postid=8150017#post8150017

womp womp

# ¿ Jul 25, 2022 19:00

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

https://massivelyop.com/2022/08/05/middle-earth-enterprises-sends-cease-and-desist-letter-to-lotro-rogue-server-project/

oh no. anyway

# ¿ Aug 5, 2022 18:02

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

While I've been happy with the zones they've added as replacements for having to do Misty Mountains etc, I'm really kind of confused why they are focusing so heavily on remaking the new player experience. Especially considering how awesome Bree-Land is.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2022 19:17

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Evil Fluffy posted:

Does the barrow downs still have that one escort quest? You know the exact quest I'm talking about if you've ever run that god awful thing.

Go away! You're not my prince!

# ¿ Aug 23, 2022 05:16

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

Ngl, stout axe dwarf captains are going to be :discourse:

# ¿ Aug 29, 2022 07:11

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

33.2 is coming out tomorrow:
https://www.lotro.com/update-notes/lotro-update-33-2-release-notes-en

This includes some pvmp stuff, the Minstrel revamp, and the new class combinations.

quote:

Dwarf and Stout-axe characters can now choose the Captain and Warden classes.
Elf and High Elf characters can now choose the Burglar class.
Hobbit characters can now choose the Champion and Lore-master classes.
Man characters can now choose the Rune-keeper class.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2022 05:54

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

New expansion is up for preorder: https://www.lotro.com/expansions

$20 / $60 / $100

edit: SSG managed to break a bunch of Tokens and Tomes which are now stating "this skill can not be used". No SSG emote so I guess :soe:

Cutedge fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 21, 2022

# ¿ Sep 21, 2022 20:19

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# ¿ May 10, 2024 21:06

Cutedge: Mar 13, 2006; How can we lose so much more than we had before

xZAOx posted:

Yeah, pretty confident they abandoned them. The last one, if I'm reading the wiki right, was a level 65 skirmish, came out in maybe 2010 or so?

What's next, an epic battle?

Don't give them ideas.

The expansion is supposed to have some sort of changes or improvements to the not-skirmish skirmish things (name is escaping me), which is good because they were incredibly boring.

# ¿ Sep 21, 2022 23:06

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