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blackguy32
Oct 1, 2005

Say, do you know how to do the walk?

John Luebke posted:

This is from this year's E3 trailer:


I thought that effect went away towards the end of the game as Snake gets used to his eyesight? Shouldn't that effect be gone at this time?

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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


blackguy32 posted:

I thought that effect went away towards the end of the game as Snake gets used to his eyesight? Shouldn't that effect be gone at this time?

It wouldn't ever go and you can emulate it yourself by closing your eye. It's just simulating him having a blind spot due to an eye not working, and obviously, his eye never started working again. It's generally not been in the following games, but that's probably because it'd be annoying.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.
Could also be that it's the other Big Boss that's not gotten adjusted to the blind spot, though yeah it's not like there's much reason for it to go away in the first place aside from making first-person gameplay more readable.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
The Metal gear wiki now has a page for Venom. I think people are taking these leaks way to seriously. All we know is that a guidebook told us that Venom may or May not be Big Boss. And im still surprised this guidebook spoiled this information.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Not read into any spoilers too much, but have people tried to link Hayter being "let go" in with this? Like he'll show up voicing the "real" Big Boss at some point?

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


The guidebook words it in a way that is the epitome of "I can't confirm anything, *wink wink*, but here's what I think happened."


That section of the guide is opens with a spoiler warning too, so why not discuss it?

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Lasher posted:

Not read into any spoilers too much, but have people tried to link Hayter being "let go" in with this? Like he'll show up voicing the "real" Big Boss at some point?

No, if the fake Big Boss stuff is true then both are voiced by Kiefer.

Hayter's not present because the guy wrecked his voice and can't do Snake properly anymore, as Peacewalker showed.

John Luebke
Jun 1, 2011
There's also this from the official artbook.



Big Boss, no horn, no robot-arm.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

I think he has a horn there.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
Lolling at all these people in denial about playing the wrong protagonist, its like MGS2 all over again. Coincidentally, TPP is practically a direct prequel to MGS2.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.
If Kojima's really going to make everyone play right into his hand by doing a switcheroo that everyone flips out about in the exact way he wants them to a second time that would be pretty amazing. Also yeah all the themes of language as control definitely makes this a lot closer to 2 than any of the other games, so it would probably be a natural fit.

Also I bet we'll get soldiers that end up having better stats than BB in enough ways that we'll eventually just play as an S-rank soldier instead of him for everything but story missions anyways. And story-wise it's still very much going to be about Big Boss, and if speculation is anything to go by the real Big Boss is still going to be very prominent in the game.

Basically people are big babies about their video game stories. Which is rich coming from me but there you have it.

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


Broseph Brostar posted:

Lolling at all these people in denial about playing the wrong protagonist, its like MGS2 all over again. Coincidentally, TPP is practically a direct prequel to MGS2.
Everyone Is Raiden

even Quiet

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

Moartoast posted:

Also I bet we'll get soldiers that end up having better stats than BB in enough ways that we'll eventually just play as an S-rank soldier instead of him for everything but story missions anyways. And story-wise it's still very much going to be about Big Boss, and if speculation is anything to go by the real Big Boss is still going to be very prominent in the game.

As I said earlier, I'd find it hilarious if we play as Venom for part of the game but at some point switch over to the real Big Boss so the previews wouldn't be technically lying.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
I hope the Venom Snake bossfight is like PW, where its difficulty is tied to how much effort you put into research. If you unlock everything Venom cheats with Jehuty teleport CQC, and if you do the bare minimum he only has basic equipment.

cargohills
Apr 18, 2014

If Eli doesn't turn out to be Raiden I'll be very disappointed

CrashCat
Jan 10, 2003

another shit post


cargohills posted:

If Eli doesn't turn out to be Raiden I'll be very disappointed
Eli is actually Rose and pesters you the entire game asking if you know what day tomorrow is

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

Broseph Brostar posted:

I hope the Venom Snake bossfight is like PW, where its difficulty is tied to how much effort you put into research. If you unlock everything Venom cheats with Jehuty teleport CQC, and if you do the bare minimum he only has basic equipment.

No research, no showers run, Big Boss has to run away from Stinky Venom Snake while they ineffectually fire dinky tranqs at each other until Venom dies of e coli poisoning and dysentery. Or a parasite, if we're staying thematically consistent here.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

Mokinokaro posted:

As I said earlier, I'd find it hilarious if we play as Venom for part of the game but at some point switch over to the real Big Boss so the previews wouldn't be technically lying.

I heard an interesting idea that you only got to be real big boss on Extreme due to the added boss fights.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
An interesting idea.

You know, all I want from thsi thread is a track listing of the licensed music. :colbert:

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

Mokinokaro posted:

An interesting idea.

You know, all I want from thsi thread is a track listing of the licensed music. :colbert:

This was what was in the guide per some neogaf summary post.

Laid Back - White Horse
Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science
Ultravox - Dancing With Tears in My Eyes
Kajagoogoo - Too Shy
Japan - Quiet Life
Laura Branigan - Gloria
Dead or Alive - You Spin Me Right Round (Like a Record)
The Cure - Friday I'm in Love
Cynhtia Harrell - Snake Eater
Jennifer Rush - Midnight Mirage

edit: There are other tapes than the ones on this list apparently.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

havenwaters posted:

Thomas Dolby - She Blinded Me With Science
aka Huey Emmerich Love Theme

Nanomachine Son
Jan 11, 2007

!
Man this is the game a 15 year old me would of wanted so bad when my favorite games were MGS 2 and Vice City. Also, cliche or not I want loving Danger Zone on that soundtrack and have I Ran as my helicopter music (I guess you can Spotify it for PS4?).

Also is there anything more about that Mantis looking kid being called "Third Child"? Or does that have something to with the Venom Snake stuff floating around?

TheMostFrench
Jul 12, 2009

Stop for me, it's the claw!



The KFP lets play shows you getting DD in like the second mission of the game, which is heaps earlier than Africa, like in the official game play demos. I wonder how long it will take for DD to grow up and become usable?

The guard AI already looks better than GZ.

e: I wonder if you go around knocking your guys out on MB all the time, will there be anyone to defend if it gets attacked?

TheMostFrench fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Aug 24, 2015

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

TheMostFrench posted:

The KFP lets play shows you getting DD in like the second mission of the game, which is heaps earlier than Africa, like in the official game play demos. I wonder how long it will take for DD to grow up and become usable?

The guard AI already looks better than GZ.

e: I wonder if you go around knocking your guys out on MB all the time, will there be anyone to defend if it gets attacked?

Motherbase isn't the one that gets attacked, it's your FOB(Forward Operating Base).

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe

RatHat posted:

Motherbase isn't the one that gets attacked, it's your FOB(Forward Operating Base).

No. There are strong hints in previews that MB can get attacked sometimes. It's story/mission related.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Uh, if you say so. If MB gets attacked I think it'd be a story mission.

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
I hope the dog is Big Boss.

standard owl
Jan 9, 2011

Watching the scene with Kaz and Big Boss in the helicopter ride back to Mother Base makes me think that if there's some kind of WHO IS VENOM SNAKE ruse going on, Kaz likely doesn't know the full story himself.

Ocelot probably does, but "Ocelot is in on poo poo that no one else is" shouldn't even be considered a spoiler at this point in the series, really.

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

Clicked the wrong thread and now know everything

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
I only need to know one thing before I decide if I'm taking the plunge on this.

Do we get a third Mantis fight?

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
One of the guys spoiling stuff on Gamefaqs said the first part of the E3 2015 trailer with the blood is the first ending of the game. I guess the leak that said you'd have to kill everyone in your own Motherbase might be true.

EDIT: Yeah the italian guide says that the parasites that mutate vocal cords infects Motherbase and you have to kill everyone to prevent an epidemic.

RatHat fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Aug 24, 2015

Nakar
Sep 2, 2002

Ultima Ratio Regum

Fulchrum posted:

I only need to know one thing before I decide if I'm taking the plunge on this.

Do we get a third Mantis fight?
Lil' Mantis controlling the Sahelanthropus is the final boss of the main story. No, I don't know the context.

Nanomachine Son
Jan 11, 2007

!

RatHat posted:

One of the guys spoiling stuff on Gamefaqs said the first part of the E3 2015 trailer with the blood is the first ending of the game. I guess the leak that said you'd have to kill everyone in your own Motherbase might be true.

EDIT: Yeah the italian guide says that the parasites that mutate vocal cords infects Motherbase and you have to kill everyone to prevent an epidemic.

Man, that sounds nuts and I kind of hope it's true, I already play as a real murderous bastard anyhow so I wont feel too far removed at least!

Also, if they make you kill D-Dog I bet people will lose their poo poo.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
Motherbase looks like Big Shell too. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

Moartoast
Jan 16, 2011

Another unfunny, threadshitting knob-end.

TheOrange posted:

Man, that sounds nuts and I kind of hope it's true, I already play as a real murderous bastard anyhow so I wont feel too far removed at least!

Also, if they make you kill D-Dog I bet people will lose their poo poo.

D-Dog and all the animals you put in your personal zoo and all the child soldiers you recruited, poo poo's going to be heavy af

standard owl
Jan 9, 2011

No no no, remember the animal conservation strut isn't connected to the rest of Mother Base and is only accessible by helicopter. They're safe as can be in the middle of the ocean with no one to care for them after you kill everybody

Nanomachine Son
Jan 11, 2007

!

standard owl posted:

No no no, remember the animal conservation strut isn't connected to the rest of Mother Base and is only accessible by helicopter. They're safe as can be in the middle of the ocean with no one to care for them after you kill everybody

It's ok, they'll get fultoned to a farm where they can run around free forever :(

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Big Boss cooks and eats his beloved chickenhat.

Nanomachine Son
Jan 11, 2007

!

Heavy Metal posted:

Big Boss cooks and eats his beloved chickenhat.

God I hope the cosmetic stuff stays on in cut-scenes like Dead Rising, I'd never take off that drat chicken hat.

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Flubby
Feb 28, 2006
Fun Shoe
I just don't understand the reason for this twist. What's the reason for playing a guy with BB's face instead of just playing as Big Boss? I don't mind if that's the case. It just seems silly that this is the game that's supposed to bridge that missing gap between Metal Gear Solid 3 / Peace Walker and the first Metal Gear. This is the story of how Big Boss becomes the bad guy but it turns out the story isn't even following Big Boss. So we're never going to get that bit of the story?

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