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Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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It is on the market for £70,000.

However, because there is no cooker in the kitchen and the windows are obstructed, you can't get a mortgage on this property - so any buyers need to have the money.

Why would anyone design a house like this!

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Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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I'm pretty sure the writers wanted to do a full-on allegory for Iran-Contra but were shot down by Gene or his lawyer and it was turned into something else entirely.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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doctorfrog posted:

I dunno, I like it better than the Axenar one, which was heads talking to invisible interviewers, because we can't get two actors to be in the same room together.

Axanar is a Trek Thing shot in war documentary format and it's the best. It doesn't look like the actual feature length version will do the same thing though, unfortunately.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Kitchner posted:

I think we can a agree that the best non cannon star trek production is unironicslly that advert Riker did for networking software back in the early 90s/late 80s

I guess it depends on if we count the hotline.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

GROPOS was corny but it at least didn't try to have the same two grunts being involved with nearly every aspect of the episode's plot.

Also I love how the big bar brawl starts.

*flying jump kick off a table*

The episode with the maintenance guys could've worked if one of them wasn't straight out of a New York cop show from the 80s. And if it wasn't in Season 5 and forced to involve not-Ivanova and the telepath Renaissance fair.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Worf, a Klingon culture weeaboo, just assumes that's how it always works with other Klingons.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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cult_hero posted:

Well, they did as they specifically refer to "Peregrine Fighter" wings, which are mentioned but never shown during the show.

Those fighters show up a couple times on DS9 I think. The Maquis stole a bunch of them, then later Sisko throws waves of them against the Dominion fleet to die horribly like he's Zap Brannigan or something.

It's weird that they even exist. 1-on-1, they're no better than a runabout, and against larger heavier targets they just get plucked out of the sky because everything in Trek has crazy accurate targeting computers and ECM stuff doesn't really exist.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Well, yeah. Barely anything ever misses and everyone's constantly babbling about target locks. I don't remember anyone firing anything blind unless the plot called for it.

Stuff blows up good, that's all that matters.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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While the official phrasing of the Prime Directive is something like "don't interfere with their natural development," that's just a PR cover for "all our early explorers and freighter captains couldn't stop sticking their dicks in things and we got tired of dealing with the medical expenses/hit squads/reparations."

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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shadow puppet of a posted:

Without a cohesive mass media (Neelix's TV show was a revelation to them) how do they get enough space-southerners to sign up under delusions of fighting for glory and country, especially when there is no country to fight for and no anthems to weep patriotically over?

They just go for the TFR posters instead.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Universe Master posted:

It didn't decide on its own. Riker finally did it. All that holodeck sex.

Riker impregnated the ship.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIw690VGt70

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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CaptainQuirk posted:

Remember that episode of tng where Barclay made copies of the crew in the holodeck and got caught?


Everyone is horrified except Riker

Geordi is just feigning horror. In his head he's taking notes.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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By 2042 television will be long dead. We'll all be vegetables plugged into sci-fi ships 'n' spacesuits BTL chips by then.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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shadow puppet of a posted:

"I don't know who or what you are, but I can assure you these are very fashionable, practical clothes. A man on my world would not be caught dead without a jerkin, his outer waistbelt and his hoodlet. No, I do not lace up the outmost layer, that is so last harvest."



He came from Final Fantasy NPC Planet.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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skasion posted:

Worst episode in TOS has to be The Alternative Factor, which is skullfuckingly boring, terribly written, terribly acted, and makes no sense at all into the bargain.

For me it's a close race between this and Miri. Might have to toss Catspaw in there too.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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DS9 begins somewhere around the Chain of Command two-parter and runs parallel to TNG (and later Voyager) from there. I guess there were Bajorans in Starfleet for quite a while before that because Starfleet goes through so many redshirts they'll take anyone with a pulse.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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That entrance exam never made a lot of sense, so maybe the writers just abandoned the concept entirely after that episode.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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I still want a new Trek series to be pretty much just Sealab 2021 using stock footage from The Animated Series.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Kitchner posted:

Garak vs Romulan is a great story in of itself.

You could do an entire episode where both of them are sort of setting traps and investigating the other

I'm now imagining a series of recurring and escalating Spy vs. Spy skits going on in the background regardless of the actual plots.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Monkey Fracas posted:

OK I'm done running through Twin Peaks so I'm finally gonna watch DS9

I have a hard time believing it's gonna be better overall than TNG but I'm willing to give it a shot

I think at least one or two Twin Peaks actors guest star on DS9, if that helps.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Best to skip Profit & Lace, and maybe the last Mirror episode if you count that. The rest are at least watchable and occasionally brilliant.

The episode with the rival casino and the one where Quark gets into the arms business are underrated favourites.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Germstore posted:

That one good Enterprise episode, where they went to a Western planet. drat that was good. It was like a TOS episode but good.

Best part is Malcolm's "pop quiz, hotshot" resolution to a hostage crisis.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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FrensaGeran posted:

The opening scene involves NEW ALIENS capturing Martok and then MYSTERIOUS FIGURE IN THE SHADOWS beats them all up with his super space kung fu and saves him.

You'll never guess who. it's Worf

Only way to make that work is to do it in a grindhouse style.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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FrensaGeran posted:

Where does everybody stand on the Tuvix question? Would you kill Transporter Obama?

Didn't Tuvix have all of Tuvok and Neelix's memories and skills? If so, there's no real practical reason to split him up again, especially since all the important stuff is in the Tuvok half and Neelix is useless, or would become useless the moment they travelled far enough away from his space. Tuvix could've continued Tuvok's job just fine probably. Neelix could've choked on a dinner roll and died the day before the accident and it would've made no difference.

Also, the morale hit of killing Tuvix seemed way higher than not getting Tuvok and Neelix back would've been. If it was just a matter of Janeway wanting her buddy back, I'd get it, but I don't remember the episode really dealing with that.

It probably would've been a much better moral quandary episode if Tuvix had been a blank slate they had to raise and retrain from scratch, rather than a direct combination of those two dudes with all their poo poo intact. Then the issue would've been "hey, do we kill this guy who's basically an innocent man-child so we can get our way more useful officers back, or do we let him live and pray that Harry Kim can handle Tuvok's job?"

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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I figured they were still in there somewhere, but I might be mistaking it for the Curzon-Odo thing.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Cry Havoc posted:

fun fact spice girls had a song about the tuvix episode

TLC's "Waterfalls" warns us against chasing after the waterfall that is Tuvix, and encourages appreciation of the rivers/Tuvoks and lakes/Neelixes that we already have.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Money Bags posted:

perfectly good Jägermeister

"Perfectly good Jägermeister"? What is this?

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Orange Sunshine posted:

I thought she left the show on her own. Did she get fired?

How could anyone get fired from Voyager? The actors trying to get fired were kept on, the writers didn't give a poo poo about the show. Did she start ranting about hating jews or something?

I think what happened is that UPN wanted more tits to help combat lagging ratings, but didn't want to pay for an additional actor on top of the cast they already had. Harry Kim was on the chopping block before Kes but then he turned up on People's Sexiest Man list and that of all things apparently saved his job, so they bumped Kes instead. So Jeri Ryan came in, stuff happened, Obama became President, Jen Lein went crazy. Circle of life.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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JediTalentAgent posted:

Lien seemed to stop doing a lot of work right about the time of leaving Voyager, too. She did a voice on the MiB cartoon for a short while and she probably could have parlayed her Trek resume into being just a voice actor for about 10-12 years on various things.

She had a small-ish part in American History X, too. I think she got choked by Ed Norton or something. And also Avery Brooks was there in a very not-Sisko, not-Mob Boss From The Big Hit role.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Powered Descent posted:

and Admiral Nechayev just above Riker (she would gently caress your poo poo UP.)

For real, Nechayev would just straight-up kick a guy in the balls, then lecture you about everything you just did wrong. And she'd be right about it, too. You see those pips on her collar? Those are admiral pips, and that means she doesn't have to put up with anyone's poo poo.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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BottledBodhisvata posted:

DS9 has pretty realistic politics, yeah. poo poo's changing all the time, today's enemy is tomorrow's ally.

It's like Metal Gear Solid 3 in space

Benjamin, remember the basics of CQC.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Kitchner posted:

Now do Tu'Lorvar for the sport.

Thanks, Tom. Disaster struck at the Parrises Squares tournament today as several contestants fell from their squares and broke their necks. Their corpses are currently being examined for possible PED use leading to balance problems and overaggression. On Gault Colony, a youth football player was killed following a headbutt from the only Klingon player on the planet. And in Anbo-jyutsu news...

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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skasion posted:

You don't even need a nuke or any kind of explosive payload, just slap an antimatter engine on an asteroid and slam it into your opponent's homeworld at warp 9 and it'll punch right through the planet. Or run the Enterprise into it, which should amount to pretty much the same thing

I think that was basically the idea behind mass drivers on Babylon 5 and elsewhere, except you don't even need to waste a perfectly good engine on those, just collect asteroid debris and accelerate it inside a chamber then shoot it at your target when it's got the right velocity.

But because it's Star Trek, and Voyager specifically, anyone using asteroids against planets were following some hilariously complex Cobra Commander plan that can break the second some random Starfleet away team shows up and starts poking around.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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shadow puppet of a posted:

This one looks like a Tupac shirt you'd get at the mall.


He's livin'!

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Boner Slam posted:

It's a fair assumption that earth, main world of the federation, has some sort of mobile or wide range deflector shield or tractor beam assembly which would automatically get rid of any asteroid thread.

Or they still use those giant gently caress-off lasers, even if they get hijacked by space Bond villains occasionally.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Tujague posted:

It's kind of a shame that Gul Dukat died before he could notify the Bajoran people that he porked their spiritual leader. I'm sure it was on his catch-up list, organized guy like that.

I'm sure he recorded at least two dozen announcement videos for this purpose covering every possible contingency, including at least one or two starting with ATTENTION BAJORAN WORKERS, just in case.

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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Getting high is how he deals with the pain and misery of being Miles O'Brien.

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Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

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BottledBodhisvata posted:

How did Data, a robot, catch the "super horny, suicidally horny" space virus again? Like...I mean...how?

Dr. Soong likes his androids to be as human as possible. Another question would be why something like this only happened once, and more importantly, why Soong bothered to give him a robot penis and the programming to use it and not, say, the ability to speak with contractions.

The answer of course is that Gene spent the first couple years of Next Gen pulling his goalie until he was kicked upstairs.

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