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Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

star trek

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Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Angela Christine posted:

I watched all 4 seasons of enterprise as it aired and I have no memory of this storyline at all. Not even after reading the spergwiki. It did lead me to this though: http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cheese


loving nerds.

You're just scraping the tip of the iceberg:

MemoryAlpha entry for "Feces" posted:

Feces (also known as poop, droppings, or manure) is the product expelled from a being's digestive tract, consisting of bodily wastes.

In advanced civilizations, bodily waste was deposited in a toilet sent to the waste extraction system, where after various processes, would be recycled through biomatter resequencing. For infants, feces was often collected in a diaper.

When Miss Malvin's fourth grade class from Worley Elementary School in County Kerry, Ireland sent letters to Enterprise NX-01 in 2151, Molly McCook wanted to know "When you flush the toilet, where does it go?". After Captain Archer passed the question to Commander Tucker, he responded with: "A poop question, sir?!" (ENT: "Breaking the Ice")

Doctor Phlox found that Altarian marsupial droppings contained the greatest concentration of regenerative enzymes found anywhere. Archer found the idea of using droppings for regenerative purposes disgusting, however, Phlox reminded him that if he was going to try to embrace new worlds he must also try to embrace new ideas. (ENT: "Broken Bow")

Bodily waste collected and used for agricultural purposes in the form of fertilizer, typically called manure, consists of high levels of methane. Kathryn Janeway recognized this upon detecting methane on a truck found in 2371. (VOY: "The 37's")

While raising Sim, in 2153, Dr. Phlox found a use for the infant's bodily waste, noting that he may have stumbled across an effective fertilizer for his Orsic fern. (ENT: "Similitude")

Some use the term "manure" as a metaphor for purposes of making a derogatory comment. The Species 8472 recreation of Boothby once referred to the Federation's concepts of "tolerance for all species" and the Prime Directive as "Targ manure." (VOY: "In the Flesh") Similarly, the slang terms "poo poo" and "bullshit" were colorful metaphors which referred to the manure in general and that produced by a bull, respectively. The cursing "Merde" (meaning "poo poo") was also used in French language. (TNG: "The Last Outpost", "Elementary, Dear Data", Star Trek Generations; Star Trek: First Contact; Star Trek)

In addition to metaphoric usages, the idiomatic usage of the term "poop", as in "party pooper", refers to someone that is a killjoy. In 2372, the little woman referred to the Clown as a poop because he started feeling sorry for himself. (VOY: "The Thaw") While investigating a proto-nebula in 2375, The Doctor made an offhand comment about the Borg being the "party poopers of the galaxy", after Seven of Nine discouraged his attempt to use his holo-imaging device, and subsequently offered to begin a new social exercise with Seven to develop her joie de vivre. (VOY: "Drone")


MemoryAlpha entry for "Breast" posted:

Breasts was the collective term for physical protrusions of mammary glands on most species, both male and female. In most humanoid species, females were distinguished from males through larger breasts, a source of sexual attraction. Male breasts were typically useless, while females might use them for breast feeding. (TNG: "A Matter Of Honor"; VOY: "Deadlock")

On Earth, only mammals breastfeed, making it unclear what their function was in the many non-mammalian-looking breasted species seen on Star Trek.
Cultural significanceEdit
Hoshi Sato covering up
Hoshi Sato covering her breasts in 2152
Most cultures in the known Galaxy required women to cover their breasts in public, and it was considered shameful to appear in public with them exposed. The exception to this rule was Betazoid wedding ceremonies, in which all attendees were naked. (TNG: "Cost of Living"). If for some reason, a woman was made to show her breasts in public due to loss of clothing, they would typically use an arm to cover their breasts until clothing could be obtained.

Such was the case when the Enterprise NX-01 was captured and impounded by Suliban Cabal. The crew used their room intercoms to formulate a plan to escape. The only escape route was through the air vents and Ensign Hoshi Sato was small enough to fit. When she made her way to the outside of Lieutenant Malcolm Reed's room, her shirt was caught on a hook and she tried to get free, but ended up losing her shirt while sliding through. When she opened Reed's door, she held her hands over her breasts and told him to not say anything and to fetch her a shirt. (ENT: "Shockwave, Part II")

Quark as Lumba
Quark, as Lumba, with cosmetically added breasts
Until the reforms of Zek, Ferengi females were required to not wear clothing. They also were prohibited from leaving their homes, due to the taboo of a Ferengi female appearing nude in public. In order to get around this, many Ferengi females would tightly wrap their breasts and pretend to be male in order to acquire profit and to travel away from Ferenginar. Such was the case of Pel in 2370 who in addition to wrapping her breasts, also enhanced her lobes in order to leave Ferenginar and work at Quark's Bar. (DS9: "Rules of Acquisition") Additionally, in order to fill in for the ill Ishka, working on Zek's behalf, to prove the value of females to Nilva an influential FCA commissioner, Quark underwent cosmetic surgery and posed as a female Ferengi named Lumba. (DS9: "Profit and Lace")

Yellow Dabo girl, Emissary
A dabo girl at Quark's wearing an outfit that exposed the bottom of her breasts
It was strongly implied by Quark that he hired Leeta due to the size of her breasts. (DS9: "Doctor Bashir, I Presume")

Some dabo girls at Quark's wore dresses that showed part of their breasts, so as to appear attractive to the male customers, who would look more at them than the game and thus lose money. (DS9: "The Abandoned")

Additional referencesEdit
The protrusion of a man's breast was mentioned in "A British Tar". (Star Trek: Insurrection). 'Breast', in this case, was used in the classical sense, referring to the chest in general.

"His eyes should flash,
and his breast protrude,
And this should be his customary attitude."
Audrid Dax (in Quark's body during Jadzia's zhian'tara) thought there was "nothing quite like" holding a baby to one's breast. (DS9: "Facets")

While on the Ba'ku planet, Deanna Troi asked Beverly Crusher if she had noticed how her "boobs" had started to firm up, as a result of the metaphasic radiation that affects that planet, to which Crusher replied, "Not that we care about such things in this day and age," though Troi's snickering reaction suggested otherwise. Data, who overheard this conversation, repeated it to Worf. (Star Trek: Insurrection)

On the IKS Pagh, Klingons made fun of William Riker who was posted on the ship to learn about Klingon culture. They told him, if he were afraid of the food, they could try to convince a female to breastfeed him. (TNG: "A Matter Of Honor")

The females on Draylax were known for having three breasts. Travis Mayweather once joked he knew it "First-hand, second-hand, third-hand". (ENT: "Broken Bow")

MemoryAlpha entry for "Spanking" posted:

Spanking was an ancient form of punishment given on Earth to Human children, by striking them on the buttocks, for misbehaving.

When the Dohlman Elaan warned Captain James T. Kirk never to touch her again, Kirk responded with a warning of his own, with regards to her tantrum like behavior, remarking that "if I touch you again, Your Glory, it'll be to administer an ancient Earth custom called a "spanking," a form of punishment administered to spoiled brats." (TOS: "Elaan of Troyius")

When Spock established that V'ger was merely a child, and as such, should be treated as a child, Leonard McCoy reacted to Spock's understatement, exclaiming, "that thing is about to wipe out every living thing on Earth, now what do you suggest we do? Spank it?" (Star Trek: The Motion Picture)

In Reginald Barclay's holodeck fantasy, his hologram of Beverly Crusher warned the hologram of her son Wesley Crusher to mind his manners and not embarrass her in front of their guest, the "real" Geordi La Forge, warning that "Master Barclay will spank you if you misbehave." (TNG: "Hollow Pursuits")

During the first half of the 24th century some Human parents still punished their children with spanking, at least occasionally. Miles O'Brien said he got his bottom whacked by his dad once or twice. (DS9: "Cardassians")

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

counterfeitsaint posted:

This kind of poo poo is inevitable when you decide to make a prequel. This is why prequel are universally garbage.

This kind of poo poo is inevitable when your writing panders to grown-up babies who are more concerned with made-up "universe building" than compelling storytelling.

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

Yeah, that's true, I guess it just takes a skilled writer to make that work. I'm not against a nice tidy "canon," but if the writers are ever at a crossroads between that and a more interesting canon-violating idea, I'd rather go with the latter personally.

I think I'm in the minority of people that liked Enterprise better when it was just being its own show rather than trying to connect with the later series. I thought the temporal cold war was alright, I thought the Suliban were cool, I thought the Xindi arc had its moments. I had a lot of fun with season four, too, but I was kind of sad to see them giving up on some of their original premises rather than improving on them.

Drink-Mix Man fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Dec 16, 2015

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

E: double-post thing

Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

I can tell from that 90-second trailer this is the absolute nadir of the franchise

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Drink-Mix Man
Mar 4, 2003

You are an odd fellow, but I must say... you throw a swell shindig.

happyhippy posted:

CAN't WAIT LOL

KIK IS SO DREAMY x0x0x0x00x0x0

AND gently caress YEAH SABATAGE! :nomates: LETS ALL SABATAGE! :nomates:

I know you're being ironic, but this sums up much of what I feel.

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