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NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Thump! posted:

Wait gently caress is that real?

no, but I don't think that makes it less funny.

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fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.
patriotism is the real border wall

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

NotWearingPants posted:

great minds think alike



Just :lol:
Where did they find a good picture of her? This is really relevant, I swear.

Pohl has issued a correction as of 05:56 on Aug 25, 2015

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Philthy posted:

I don't even think the majority even cross over the land anymore. It's all just hundreds of tunnels and poo poo. You can't block that with a wall, you can't watch it from the sky.

Maybe dirt radars and pet tremors or something.

Trump for Tremors 2016.

Graboids?

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Pohl posted:

Just :lol:
Where did they find a good picture of her? This is really relevant, I swear.

Ashley Madison data dump

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

NotWearingPants posted:

Ashley Madison data dump

I can't Trump that, so you win.

burritolingus
Nov 6, 2007

by Ralp

NotWearingPants posted:

great minds think alike



I agree.

lambeth
Aug 31, 2009

Pohl posted:

The "wall" would be penalties on employers that hire illegals.
Bam! Done.

They built the Great Wall of China, so I'm sure we could build the wall. Get a bunch of slave labor and we could do that poo poo in a few years.

Man, considering regular construction takes like two years to build a traffic lane, we're talking at least a hundred years, by which the Mexicans will have invaded and our new Presidente will stop it getting built.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

lambeth posted:

Man, considering regular construction takes like two years to build a traffic lane, we're talking at least a hundred years, by which the Mexicans will have invaded and our new Presidente will stop it getting built.

You are thinking too small. More slaves.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
Combination lawn dart - antipersonnel mines dropped out of cargo planes could secure the border in no time

lambeth
Aug 31, 2009

Pohl posted:

You are thinking too small. More slaves.

Mexican Moses will part the Rio Grande and lead the slaves to the free lands.

french lies
Apr 16, 2008

McDowell posted:

A literal wall is impracticable. But you could have plane/blimp drones with solar panels giving pretty much total overwatch. You allow free travel and trade at specific crossings, while computers watching all the video feeds flag people/vehicles in the wilderness so the military can intercept them.
You're right and the implications of this are scary as gently caress.

Cephalocidal
Dec 23, 2005

french lies posted:

You're right and the implications of this are scary as gently caress.

Fuel consumption for a drone wall would be a huge cash sink if we're talking zero holes. Easier to spin up than a literal wall but potentially more costly in the long run. Blimps would just get knocked out of the sky; a cheap hobby drone and a small explosive is well within the budget of most Coyotes.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.
New thing Bernie and Trump have in common: Both want huge federal construction job programs.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007



HALT
PRESENT VISA
YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
The plan is to turn the tables and make america so terrible for hispanics and minorities that they self-deport to Mexico in such numbers that the Mexican govt feels compelled to build a wall to keep them out. That way you get rid of a large chunk of the illegals and get Mexico to pay for the wall :smug:

french lies
Apr 16, 2008

Cephalocidal posted:

Fuel consumption for a drone wall would be a huge cash sink if we're talking zero holes. Easier to spin up than a literal wall but potentially more costly in the long run. Blimps would just get knocked out of the sky; a cheap hobby drone and a small explosive is well within the budget of most Coyotes.
You don't need a watertight system. If it reduces the amount of illegal crossings by 80% that would probably be enough to justify the expense for the people concerned with this stuff. Random rotation of patrol routes, better algorithms for image detection et.c. would increase the efficiency. Fuel costs might decline over time with new technological solutions.

I'm just talking out of my rear end here so who knows. I really hope it doesn't come to this.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
On Penn and Teller's Bullshit, there was an episode they hired some migrant workers to build a 20 ft wide x 20 ft tall wall out of sheet metal and barbed wire. Took them a entire day to build it. Then in 3 different teams of the migrant workers who built it, one over, one under, and one through, they all got past it in 2 minutes.

Cephalocidal
Dec 23, 2005

french lies posted:

You don't need a watertight system. If it reduces the amount of illegal crossings by 80% that would probably be enough to justify the expense for the people concerned with this stuff. Random rotation of patrol routes, better algorithms for image detection et.c. would increase the efficiency. Fuel costs might decline over time with new technological solutions.

I'm just talking out of my rear end here so who knows. I really hope it doesn't come to this.

Realtalk - If it does, which it won't, the most fiscally conservative and morally bankrupt solution will win.

Landmines.

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012

Boeing won the contract to build a virtual fence years ago. It never worked and went way overbudget.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/politics/15fence.html

The department of homeland security moved on to drones. This turned out to also not work and be hugely expensive.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/13/federal-report-says-border-patrol-drone-program-doesnt-fly/

We might be able to physically build an ineffective wall in theory, but in practice Boeing or Lockheed are just going to run the project poorly and lobby for deadline extensions and additional money until the program is cancelled due to cost overruns and Obama being not good.

The wall conversation is just a racist dogwhistle, anyway. The Obama administration has secured the gently caress out of our border in his time as president in comparison to Bush, all without any additional walls.

Baudolino
Apr 1, 2010

THUNDERDOME LOSER
East Germany were pretty good at keeping their people captive. Despite having to guard a long border With almost no natural barriers. They proved that all you need lot`s a of barbered wire, guard towers and soldiers who will shoot to kill without hesitation. It should be feasible for the US to build it`s own great wall. You don`t even need real soldiers. Just allow vilgilante racist Groups and to operate freely in the border area. These guys don`t need to get paid to shoot brown people.

A Time To Chill
Feb 26, 2007

what if... we turned the entire country into one giant wall

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

filthy ditch posted:

uh the great wall of china is way bigger than 2000 miles and it was built like 3 million eyars ago. so ya, 2000 miles of wall built by the greatest nation on earth seems plausable. who would build it? probably a construction company. it would take 1 year and cost 45 million kronen.

seriously, people think it'd be just drywall or something? fuckers, you could build a great wall copy and it would stop the gently caress out of the mexicans + be a great tourist attraction.

none of you are thinking of this the right way.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

My wall would be so elaborate. We're talking built-in theme parks, restaurants, million dollar luxury apartments, hotels and observation towers (so you can leer at the poors in Mexico in a nicely air conditioned skybar). Not to mention state-of-the-art defenses that can fire a barrage of .50cal or guided missiles at anyone on the other side that dares to get close.

Call it the mother fuckin Freedom Wall to boot.

Bethamphetamine
Oct 29, 2012

SouthLAnd posted:

My wall would be so elaborate. We're talking built-in theme parks, restaurants, million dollar luxury apartments, hotels and observation towers (so you can leer at the poors in Mexico in a nicely air conditioned skybar). Not to mention state-of-the-art defenses that can fire a barrage of .50cal or guided missiles at anyone on the other side that dares to get close.

Call it the mother fuckin Freedom Wall to boot.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied Trump!" cries he
With silent lips. "Keep your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Keep these, the homeless, tempest-tost away from me,
I lift my lamp beside the Big Beautiful Door!"

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
TRUMP 2016

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Yea and a border wall wouldn't be made out of loving sheet metal and barbed wire, stop paying attention to anything Penn & Teller do that isn't a magic trick.



The technology to subjugate and oppress an entire population for the purpose of slow ethnic cleansing exists, just buy it from Israel.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

nachos posted:

The plan is to turn the tables and make america so terrible for hispanics and minorities that they self-deport to Mexico in such numbers that the Mexican govt feels compelled to build a wall to keep them out. That way you get rid of a large chunk of the illegals and get Mexico to pay for the wall :smug:

Ok, you win.
This is an awesome post, thank you for thinking outside the box!

Pohl has issued a correction as of 03:37 on Aug 26, 2015

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




OK, now how do you protect yourself from us Canadians? :smug:

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
Maybe if we didn't have so many poor people it would be easier to identify undocumented immigrants once they were here.

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
I propose we import some pandyssian bull rats and release them into the slums so to reduce their population.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

NotWearingPants posted:

Maybe if we didn't have so many poor people it would be easier to identify undocumented immigrants once they were here.

What are you gonna do, pay people more? :lol:

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

Pohl posted:

What are you gonna do, pay people more? :lol:

Holy poo poo, is this the new LF? Because I like it.

bah, that was an edit, not a new post. Whatever.

french lies
Apr 16, 2008

Do It Once Right posted:

Boeing won the contract to build a virtual fence years ago. It never worked and went way overbudget.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/us/politics/15fence.html

The department of homeland security moved on to drones. This turned out to also not work and be hugely expensive.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/13/federal-report-says-border-patrol-drone-program-doesnt-fly/

We might be able to physically build an ineffective wall in theory, but in practice Boeing or Lockheed are just going to run the project poorly and lobby for deadline extensions and additional money until the program is cancelled due to cost overruns and Obama being not good.

The wall conversation is just a racist dogwhistle, anyway. The Obama administration has secured the gently caress out of our border in his time as president in comparison to Bush, all without any additional walls.
Oh, didn't know that they had already tried drones, that's really interesting. As far as I can read what they tried involved human operators on the ground to control the aircraft and monitor the feeds, versus what was suggested by the previous poster which was a more or less completely automated system except for the enforcement bit. The latter has a higher probability of making an impact, I think, and may be more cost-efficient. The technical challenges involved are probably significant and I agree with your point that contractors are more likely to gently caress things up than not.

Zinkraptor
Apr 24, 2012

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Zinkraptor
Apr 24, 2012

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Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




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Are you having a stroke? Should we call for help?

the worst thing is
Oct 3, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
i want to believe it is, so it is

Maduo
Sep 8, 2006

You see all the colors.
All of them.


Furnaceface posted:

OK, now how do you protect yourself from us Canadians? :smug:



Sometimes the best wall is no wall at all

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



Furnaceface posted:

OK, now how do you protect yourself from us Canadians? :smug:



lol harsh language seems to work well enough on you folk

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Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Get tons of those huge bees from china, put the along the border. GG migrant workers.

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