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quote:And President Santos has the nerve to ask us to respect Colombians? Who disrespects Colombians? The people who expel them from their country, the ones who don't give them homes, work, education, or us Venezuelans who have 5.6 million here, and they study, work, love and live here among us? Who disrespects the humble people of Colombia, President Santos? Tell me. We respect each other - I'm telling you this with all due respect. The Venezuelan border is part of the impoverished periphery along with la Guajira, the Pacific coast and the border with Ecuador and Peru.
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In my opinion labeling them as Fascists is giving them too much credit, I don't think these people can be compared to the "insane" but calculating politicians and military leaders from Europe in the XX century, they just don't have that sophistication. They are largely empowered and opportunistic thugs who are running their country into the ground and can do it because of their simple oil economy that they managed to gently caress up and the general ignorance of the people that allowed them to get to power in the first place. Now most refugees are staying with families and friends or in refuges in a border city and the president went there to talk to them (not that I believe he cares or will solve anything). Also the country chancellors are meeting, when we probably should cut diplomatic relations with them. It isn't anything new to use Colombians as a scapegoat by the way. That goes back to decades ago, when they viewed us as "their poor cousins".
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Aug 26, 2015 23:32
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PerpetualSelf posted:Says someone who points and claims everything that ever happens bad in a country is caused by the United States or right wing paramilitaries; whichever is more convenient on said day. Just don't feed the troll. I'm just reading that the suppossed paramilitary bands are really mostly the old comando groups created by Chavez to "defend the revolution" which have now turned their back on Maduro. Could it be true? Also, if they really block the frontier completely what will happen to the weapons and drug trade? I wonder what Diosdado Cabello thinks or plans to do with this. And the meeting between the countries' chancellors just ended in the blandest way possible. They're lying to our faces and the chancellor does nothing. What else could we expect from this government? > The Venezuelan army kicks people out of their homes, bulldozes their homes. > People are forced to cross the countryside, the wilderness and a river carrying their things on their back before reaching refugee centers of friends' homes on the other side of the border. > The Venezuelan Chancellor says: "We don't mistreat Colombians, we would never do such a thing to our brothers" > The Colombian Chancellor says: "Ok". Tony_Montana fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 07:04
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PerpetualSelf posted:Colombia has lost their request for a special meeting at the UN and UNASUR has cancelled the special meeting that was going to happen on Thursday. What the gently caress is going on? How is this a surprise? This is Colombia's problem, not anybody else's. UNASUR was a joke since the beginning and the UN is the most useless institution in the world.
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Sep 1, 2015 02:08
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JB is living proof of why aggressive leftists in general should be avoided -especially foreign ones-. I wonder what people like Oliver Stone and Sean Penn think of their beloved regime now. They probably support it out of a mix of cluelessness and loyalty to their theoretical ideals. I think the only non-hypocritical figure in history that comes to mind as a respectable, balanced figure of XX century Socialism is George Orwell. Hey look, I found a respectable leftist politician from Colombia hanging out with M, remember to support her and her party!  ... The only thing the Colombian government can do is provide humanitarian aid and help integrating to these people and stop wasting resources on international institutions where bureaucrats couldn't care less. Especially UNASUR, which was explicitly created to support Chavism in the continent (wasting resources from the Venezuelan Treasury, I imagine) and is right now headed by a traitorous Colombian ex-president. I'm glad to hear that Podemos in Spain is weakening by the way. I've talked before to some Spaniards who believed they were a solution to their country. Pheww.
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Sep 3, 2015 00:54
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Colombia is so close to Nazi Germany and evil right wing that the Left has held the mayor office in the capital city (the second most important political position in the country, held currently by a leftis ex-guerilla member) for 3 consecutive periods, despite of their disastrous results, a generous agreement with the guerillas is going to be signed to end the peace process, and private companies are taxed at between 40%-70%. We bent over to Nicaragua over a territorial dispute that they won, we have bent over to Venezuela in the past years for the sake of business and good relationships, and are still bending over to them. The assassinations that have happened are more due to lack of law-enforcement capacity on the part of the government especially in remote areas, and the rise of the paramilitaries was a reaction to the leftist guerillas. there are no governmental forces actually persecuting activists to slaugther them, that's retarded. Both are repudiated by everyone. The abuses that happened were mostly during the Uribe presidency, which was a reaction to the growth of guerillas in the 90s and the failure of a peace process in 2001-2002. quote:UP members quote:Colombia exported the paramilitaries to Venezuela blah blah
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Sep 3, 2015 06:46
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Hugoon Chavez posted:I've wondered for a long time if Chavez didn't predict the collapse of his government and nominated Maduro as his successor just to place the blame on him and live on as a great visionary. I think Chavez nominated Maduro because he knew that the other strongman, Diosdado Cabellos, is a far darker and more dangerous person. Maduro is probably not as actively evil / corrupt. Maduro was probably more of a psychophant to Chavez as well.
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