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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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-Troika- posted:

It's all about form over function.

Sums up politics in general for me. People care about image, leftist, rightist, it's all about your team winning.

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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I think the "gently caress America" factor is mostly a thing with populist politics, regardless of left or right, at least that's the case here. You go extreme enough the lines between left and right are muddied.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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I don't think the "tumblr class" has any influence whatsoever on what's going on in Latin America. Nobody cares about what a bunch of fringe American leftists say or do.

Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Sep 11, 2015

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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What's the beef with Guyana?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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That's still a lot of support for Maduro, that's pretty mind boggling to me.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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computer parts posted:

25% is about the "will vote for a Ham Sandwich with -R next to its name" level here.

Must be a bipartisan system thing, the opposition is united in Venezuela?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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The Larch posted:

I like how one of the passages you decided to bold for us is the one that says "we found literally no evidence to support our accusations but we're making them anyways".

that's even more suspicious

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Wow that's extremely hosed up poo poo.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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JeffersonClay posted:

If things go to poo poo, I'd be more worried about Venezuela invading its neighbors than being invaded. They've got some pretty respectable Russian systems (SU-30, T-72BV1, BMP-3, BuK, ToR, and S-300) and are getting more. They certainly out-class Colombia, which has zero modern fighter aircraft, zero modern heavy SAMa, and zero tanks. I think the only military they don't outmatch on the continent is Brazil, and they definitely hold a quality advantage there too. If I were Colombia i'd be looking for some military aid and quick.

In a perverse way I'd like to see how America would be blamed for it

Gorau posted:

On the one hand, there is a fair bit of difference between invading a group of islands in the rear end end of nowhere, 20,000 miles from the country actually claiming it, compared to invading an immediate neighbor. On the other hand, who would they invade? Colombia? I can imagine the squeals of glee emanating from the American Republican party if a socialist government invaded an American ally. Brazil? Venezuela isn't that dumb (I hope). Curacao or Trinadad? could be interesting. One involves Europe and the other the US again. I guess Guyana is the only option. Except that it involves an unholy jungle war in a totally undeveloped area. Sounds fun! (and expensive)

maybe jungle war would be a nice break from all the desert wars.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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They even got a guy with the same name, wow.

How did they hijack this party (Min Unidad) by the way? I read that they used to be an opposition party?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Yeah I think it's naive to think this Communal House or whatever is going to be powerless.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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beer_war posted:

:qq: You took out our giant picture of Chávez :qq:

In case you don't know: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/world/americas/removal-of-chavez-images-from-venezuela-capitol-raises-tension.html?_r=0

EDIT:

"circumstantial majority of electoral character", talk about being a sour loser.

I want to see that picture of Bolivar.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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I've seen that Sopranos episode

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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M. Discordia posted:

Or Jeremy Corbyn, or Bernie Sanders (who dismissed Chavez as a "dead communist dictator" a year ago but now pointedly refuses to discuss Venezuela when asked).

because it's a loaded question, why don't they ask Clinton about Venezuela?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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striking for what reasons?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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fnox posted:

What reason do they have not to strike, really? There's no food, no spare parts, no police.

I misunderstood your post then, I though you said it was to disrupt the signature validation.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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prosperous country.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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El Hefe posted:

This is how I feel like whenever I go to the bank

https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/756300347585462273

https://twitter.com/TheConfurvative/status/756300655183089664

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Venezuela Year Zero

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Saladman posted:

BBC has a front-page article now from a Venezuelan-UK citizen who went back to do some reporting on the food crisis:

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36913991

Venezuela has the CLAP?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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An electric fence? Home invasions/burglaries are that bad?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Chuck Boone posted:

Speaking of "I can't tell if this is real life or not" stories, inmates at the Penitenciaria General de Venezuela [Venezuelan General Penitentiary] (PGV) have been in control of the prison since Monday after staging a mutiny. The inmates are requesting that the authorities transfer 3,000 more inmates into the prison.

No, that's not a typo. Can you guess why they'd make that request? It's to increase the pool of victims for the racketeering that takes place in prisons. The inmates in charge of the prison (the pran) charges inmates for protection money, rent for their cell/bed/bedding/clothes, etc.

At one point, the inmates were holding 51 people hostage, including 42 prison staff. Late last night, they let 23 hostages go after the authorities transferred 1,380 inmates into the jail.

The pran at PGV is apparently a man known as "Franklin La Guaira" (La Guaira is my home town!). Franklin is not currently incarcerated, but he escaped into the prison to avoid being captured by the authorities. Again, that is not a typo: the safest, best place for a criminal in Venezuela to be is inside his own jail.

All of this is was happening at the same time that Minister of Penitentiaries Iris Varela said this on Tuesday: "Of course there are no pranes in Venezuelan jails".

What the gently caress, how long has it been that way?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Where does Chavismo still have the most support?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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jesus christ you did it, you cooked that loving horse alive

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Dicks out for Harambe

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Chuck Boone posted:

Last night, Maduro spent quite a bit of time talking about the Jason Burr [Jason Bourne] series on his weekly television show. He also suggested that the film be used for educational purposes to teach people about how the CIA is bad.

Just before the clip starts, he was talking about how he recently saw The Secret Life of Pets. Here's the video along with my translation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oQdfddDYtY



Yeah. I mean, it is a topic of discussion. There are some who still would argue that Venezuela isn't a dictatorship.

Almagro's been really, really outspoken on the Maduro government in the past, so his words aren't surprising considering they're coming from him. Still, it's important for him to call it like he sees it because he's the head of a regional diplomatic body.

Also, good luck down there! Although I do have to say that I am so, so happy that I'm not going on that trip with you!

Stalin at the movies

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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mobby_6kl posted:

To make sure you can actually get them all loose while still on the grouns, I guess. That's how I do it, when changing my wheels of course.

...of course.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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The Pumpkins of the revolution are safe

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Ofaloaf posted:

That southeast plateau in fischmech's post? That's the Guiana Shield. There is indeed a solid layer of vegetation there, especially at lower elevations, but otherwise it looks like this:



Now I'm not a farmer, but that looks like a lovely place to build up a bustling agricultural center.

the suspended gardens of venezuela

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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Vivian Darkbloom posted:

Man, reading TeleSUR these days is like a portal into a parallel universe.


That's uh, quite the historical interpretation you've got there..

cosmopolitan elites

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Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

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fnox posted:

There's a new set of sanctions coming up from the US government. They're very interesting in seeing Maduro fall, not just because the country is on the verge of becoming a pariah state, but also because of Tarek El Aisammi's ISIS connection. There's a very real link between Islamic terrorism and the Venezuelan government that is very hard to deny and impossible to combat from within.

wait what, who is tarek el asaimmi?

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