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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i'm very happy for the fall of PSUV. When a party reaches such a rotten state it's downfall is preferable to the charade of defending mere names or past ideals. gently caress PSUV as much as MPLA, their downfall is the only way you can re-organize the workers into something productive (while throwing them in disarray for twenty to forty years but c´est la vie).

Let's see what happens now.

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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuck Boone posted:

Freddy Guevara

i love venezuelan names

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Celexi posted:

Portugal's last dictator whom was an rear end in a top hat anyway, when it was found that there was oil in Angola instead of happiness he said it's going to only get bad for Angola. Oil in poor or middle income countries destroys whatever good the country had

It's interesting you mention Angola because as time goes on this situation just seems to be eroding into an Angola-lite situation where the ruling party has total control fo the military and shares the wealth with it just enough to make sure that any popular organization is properly crushed while their oil exports and massive import needs means that A) the right wing of the west remains silent because they like cheap out and a good place to export their goods and B)the left remains silents because they crony party in power was nominally leftist twenty years ago.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

quote:

DolarToday ® ✔ @DolarToday
Bestial emboscada de la PNB obliga a venezolanos a lanzarse al Guaire http://goo.gl/QVUz4f


Does Bestial mean something different in Venezuela? Because Bestial to me means something great and this tweet becomes really dark.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pharohman777 posted:

Wait, do they PREFER the soviet union!? :psyduck:
Saying a government was backed by the soviet union is not a glowing recommendation for a government!

Chavez quite literally stressed that the Soviet Union wasn't democratic and that 21st century socialism would have to go forward learning from past mistakes.


Dutch Disease makes you forget tons of poo poo.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Chuck Boone posted:

There are still daily protests taking place all around the country. Today is the 66th day of consecutive anti-regime street action. From what I've been hearing and seeing there aren't as many people showing up to protests as there were earlier in the year, at least in Caracas.

During the protest in Caracas today, a group of officers opened fire on demonstrators who had run into a shopping mall (the CCCT). The officers are apparently from the CONAS, which is a unit that responds to kidnapping and extortion cases.

You can see the officers discharging their pistols in this video:

https://twitter.com/RCamachoVzla/status/871825907954176000


The government's security staff are literally a bunch of conas?

:mmmhmm:

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Feinne posted:

So some other US news is actually tangentially pretty important for Venezuela. Hurricane Harvey is probably going to shut down gulf refineries for at least a week. That seems like a rather nasty blow on top of the sanctions against lending PDVSA money without a really good reason.

US imperialism strikes again.

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

fnox posted:


AOC does not get any points for saying she is "concerned" about the humanitarian crisis. We got 8 years of "concerned" with Obama. This situation needs more than just their concern. That's the mainstream Democrat view, by the way, it's to be "concerned".

Bernie, I'll give him some credit, of the people who should be speaking up, he's one of the few who is. He spoke out against Chavez as well.

But I mean, you yourself recognize, that's not the left, that's just the other party from the far right one. How about the "left-left"? What have they said? The marxists, the communists. Do you think they've criticized Maduro enough?
What would the far left critize Maduro do to change the current scenario?

The ones in action would be a Trump administration. Trying to parrot any kind of leftist rethoric about violently overthrowing Maduro would result in one thing only and that's the United States swooping in with some of that good ol' human rights campaign that is working wonders anywhere they touch.

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Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Kinda amazing how an entire page was spent accusing a dude of being a Tienamen truther, whatever the hell that even means, while no one being able to actually prove what the author actually said.


AGGGGH BEES posted:

Tankies are not communists. They adopt the trappings of communism to push an authoritarian agenda.
Tankies is a word liberals and anarchists use to attack literally any leftist and anti colonial figures who actually survive more than six months and topple local regimes instead of becoming martyrs with good intentions.

It's bizarre how a word that was born to accuse the supporters of the Soviet Union during Kruschev time is now used to attack anyone who talks about the USSR, China, Cuba or Vietnam without accusing them of being fascists or whatever the gently caress Ultras believe in 2019.

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