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That line of Trumps speech about 'Socialism being faithfully implemented' being the issue really reflects on how the government seizing all the means of production has flopped so much in venezuela. What good is saying that the government will control all production of every factory when there are no plans to keep running the place, and just let it sit and rot? Venezuelan agriculture was shredded by the poor implementation of the seizure and breakup of big agriculture farms and the aftermath.
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Huh, I never knew that.
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Sep 22, 2017 22:13
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Yeah, the US separated its ruling parties and state operations more clearly in 1883. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendleton_Civil_Service_Reform_Act quote:The Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act (ch. 27, 22 Stat. 403) is a United States federal law, enacted in 1883, which established that positions within the federal government should be awarded on the basis of merit instead of political affiliation.[1] The act provided selection of government employees by competitive exams,[1] rather than ties to politicians or political affiliation. It also made it illegal to fire or demote government officials for political reasons and prohibited soliciting campaign donations on Federal government property.[1] Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Oct 25, 2017 |
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Oct 25, 2017 00:04
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http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/25/absurdly-expensive-college-funds-three-day-lecture-series-touting-totalitarian-socialist-hellhole/quote:A fancypants private college in Southern California is funding and hosting a three-day lecture series this week that promotes Venezuela’s totalitarian socialist regime in glowing terms. “Paramilitarism from the Right versus Building the Communal State from Below.” A flyer for the second lecture explains that “paramilitarism” and “building the communal state” have “everything to do with gender.” I wonder how those two have to do with gender, given that men like Hugo Chavez and Maduro were pretty involved with "building the communal state", and men will probably be held responsible for paramilitarism.
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Oct 26, 2017 02:43
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Honestly, its the crazy claims being made that come directly form the lecture series that fascinate me. I mean, what exactly is the "rightwing government in exile" that no paper has ever reported on?
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Oct 26, 2017 03:23
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Oh yeah, US is not gonna be happy, especially regarding the state of the prisons and legal system in venezuela itself making getting arrested a crime against humanity.
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I already imagine Saab has a mouth full of gold theath and a set of brass knuckles in his jacket if he is acting like that.
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Dec 19, 2017 03:03
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So Maduro just made 'A dog ate my homework' excuse for why there was no pernil for Christmas? 
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Dec 28, 2017 09:08
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Celexi posted:Soon venezuela will be the first country that the minimum wage makes everyone millionaires. Also the first country where dumptrucks are needed to move the cash needed to purchase a gallon of milk.
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Jan 2, 2018 10:04
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I honestly see the sanctions against venezuelas leaders as part pressure, and part sheer disgust at the idea of allowing people who have plundered a country and let it fall into ruin to use their ill-gotten gains in their countries. I looked up the sanctions, and they seem to be only applied to individuals in the morass of corruption that is the PSUV.
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Jan 27, 2018 22:33
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Do you think that if things get worse, the PSUV will start ordering people to worship Chavez?
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Yeah, you have to remember that Venezuela has neglected maintenance for so long that any recovery in the price of oil may as well have no effect, since barely anything works.
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Feb 6, 2018 15:54
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If a MUD candidate runs, he knows he is going to be utterly humiliated and have his life probably destroyed by the PSUV government during the campaign. And the PSUV candidate will probably still win since they control the CNE and have corrupted it utterly. But the only way to change anything without a civil war is to take the executive office, where Chavez and Maduro steadily concentrated power.
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Feb 8, 2018 19:12
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Let me summarize: So thanks to the mismanagement of Venezuela, Colombia has to move its security forces to the border to deal with the huge influx of people coming there daily for basic necessities. Then Venezuela's government accuses Columbia of preparing for invasion through a military buildup at the border, ignoring the whole 'overwhelmed border security' reason. Venezuelas government is an endless supply of material for Latin american comedians.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:The problem wasn’t left wing populism it was Chavez empowering a cadre of goons who stole everything that wasn’t nailed down And they are stealing the nails as well.
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Feb 21, 2018 00:24
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GlyphGryph posted:You generally dont want to participate in any currency thats increasing in value because once ot starts increasing in value it will cease being a currency Yeah, because you don't want to actually to transactions with it and just keep it as the value increases. But everyone else will also try to do this, and suddenly businesses can't make any money to pay employees because no one is spending money to buy stuff. Now the Currency has merely turned into an Asset kept long term. A certain level of inflation is absolutely necessary to motivate everyone to buy and sell with a currency and to use it daily for necessities. Just look at Bitcoin. It tried to be a deflationary currency, but now it is a speculative asset valued in dollars.
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Saw a thing in the Wall Street Journal today that apparently Maduro announced a gold-backed cryptocurrency on wednesday. Normally it would sound too crazy to be true, but given how crazy the venezuelan government has acted, I will just accept it as something that happened. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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 http://business.financialpost.com/commodities/energy/too-hungry-to-pump-oil-pdvsa-crews-skip-work-to-hunt-for-food 'We are dying': Venezuela's oil workers have become so hungry they are too weak to do their jobs.
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Saladman posted:While I agree with most of what you wrote, the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela is absolutely an example of a socialist government, and saying anything otherwise is just moving goalposts. It's just really poorly implemented socialism, in addition to the other and far more important governing flaws, but yeah the explicitly socialist policies are definitely pretty far down the line as far as causes of the collapse. The only thing I can think of that would have directly influenced the collapse were the mandated price controls with no compensation or assistance to business owners ("gently caress you, bakers!!"), and the socialist-policy-driven destruction of the farming industry ("why should we farm in Venezuela when we can just use our oil to import Brazilian beef? And while we're at it with importing, also why don't I just steal 50% of the money that was supposed to go buy the beef?"). Venezuela really got into socialism, but it forgot what it had to do with its industries after the step of 'seize the means of production'. Something about running those industries just as or more efficiently? Nah, they got oil to pay for imports, the price of oil will never go down!
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I honestly think that if venezuela is gonna get into a war its gonna be with Colombia. With past reports on criminals and rogue elements of the venezuelan army doing stuff in colombia, as well as the stress of the back and forth torrent of border crossings requiring a massive security presence by colombia, something will probably happen to cause a war. And the USA will happily support colombia if that occurs with military aid.
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quote:For almost two years, the government did not publish a single epidemiological bulletin tracking statistics like infant mortality. Then in April, a link suddenly appeared on the health ministry’s official website, leading to the unpublished bulletins. They showed that 11,446 children younger than one had died in 2016 – a 30 per cent increase in one year – as the economic crisis accelerated.
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Blue Nation posted:https://twitter.com/CORPOELECinfo/status/976955329605980160 I bet those gold bars are all thats left of the treasury.
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https://twitter.com/thicccc_boi/status/980599219496083456 https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClickV/status/980647033290797056 Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 2, 2018 |
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Apr 2, 2018 21:41
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That was from when that account became some weird boo-berry themed account for april fools.
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Blue Nation posted:Someone is spreading the rumour that people who don't vote will be fined with somewhere between 15million to 150 million BsF. This nonsense is being spread on the radio. Considering past stupidity by the government, it might be real. https://twitter.com/HaruspexOfHell/status/989059953783656448 https://twitter.com/HaruspexOfHell/status/989084128954978306
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 Wow, that is really loving dire. I can't really comprehend the water situation getting that bad since I live in the pacific northwest. And the Mariposa treatment plant is basically poisoning the water supply? Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Apr 28, 2018 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:Hearthbreaking article on the situation of venezuelans fleeing to northern Brazil Hospital workers getting sick due to overwork and running out of basic supplies due to influx of patients, formerly welcoming and helpful towns getting tired of the constant influx of refugees. The fact that the Army was called in to set up refugee camps to get refugees out of public spaces really speaks to how bad of a situation venezuela is in.
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If any Brazilians die due to hospital problems caused by the overload of venezuelans finally getting medical care, the backlash will be huge. 50 thousand refugees streaming into a province with a population of 500 thousand, and 150 thousand more have already come this year. I can so easily see why xenophobia would take root if government/public services that everyone relies on start breaking and shattering due to refugees. 'Get out!' starts becoming a pretty attractive view to take if it means that things can go back to normal.
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https://m.businesstoday.in/story/venezuela-offer-to-india-buy-crude-oil-at-30-pc-discount-but-through-cryptocurrency/1/275948.htmlquote:Venezuela, a South American country with the largest oil reserves in the world, has offered India a deal - 30 per cent discount on crude oil only if India decides to buy it through digital currency. The 30 per cent discount on crude oil, which recently touched a whole new high of $75 a barrel, seems attractive, but India's disinterest in promoting as well as trading in cryptocurrency could pose a hurdle. I can already see this ending badly. e: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-26/venezuela-s-inflation-is-so-extreme-it-s-broken-the-stock-market quote:Venezuela's Inflation Is So Extreme It's Broken the Stock Market https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/04/23/arrested-chevron-workers-could-face-treason-charge-in-venezuela.html quote:The two Chevron employees were jailed when they refused to sign a supply contract written by PDVSA executives under an emergency decree - which skips the competitive bidding process, according to a half dozen sources close to the case. Such decrees have been cited by Venezuela prosecutors as a means of extracting bribes in some recent PDVSA corruption cases. Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 02:15 on May 1, 2018 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I also don't recall North Korea explicitly refusing offers of food aid. I honestly think venezuela is worse than north korea nowadays. With venezuela, all the rot and ruin is broadcast for the world to see on social media as the government pretends everything is fine and a kleptocracy reigns. At least North korea does not air a 24/7 channel of the depth of cruelty man is capable of. Everyone sees the awful state of food and medical supplies in venezuela, but the government bars any aid to their people due to the PSUV's overinflated ego.
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The venezuelan government must be pisssssed. After all, the surrounding countries have a humanitarian crisis on their hands, caused by the flood of venezuelans fleeing the country. Emergency aid, and assistance are streaming into the affected countries as well. But the venezuelan government forbids any humanitarian aid or donation, stuff that the venezuelans who fled with nothing left to lose have a possibility of getting. Venezuelans are fleeing their own government, and are obtaining aid that was forbidden to them by that government. https://cruxnow.com/global-church/2018/04/17/u-s-promises-16-million-to-aid-venezuelan-refugees/ This was just last month, in mid april quote:The $16 million in funding from the State Department and U.S. Agency for International Development includes a contribution to the United Nations’ regional refugee response and humanitarian organizations working in the region.
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Uhhhh  https://mobile.twitter.com/alegw/status/991632173038960642 The government must have a bandwidth shortage as well, if they are threatening to investigate if you refresh too much.  edit: I think 4chans /pol/ board found the tweet https://twitter.com/KalebPrime/status/991756696384167936 https://twitter.com/TehSViN/status/991763877204545536 Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 13:00 on May 3, 2018 |
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I know in the US, last attempt to stuff the supreme court with extra sympathetic judges was in the 1930's, under FDR. There was a huge political battle over it back then. FDR got some of his new deal legislation declared unconstitutional, and he wanted to force through reforms he was reelected for. In venezuela, that attempt actually succeeded, and the judiciary is now a corrupt arm of the psuv. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Procedures_Reform_Bill_of_1937
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 quote:Faria: Because--wait a minute, wait a minute--the other thing is that this is right-wing press.  Help, I can't stop smiling and giggling.
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The US is already putting over 15 million dollars into the relief effort for the refugee crisis.
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Its really lovely how the refugees are being treated, but considering how government services are collapsing under the flood of migrants, I can't help but feel for the colombian government trying to do whatever it can to gain control of the situation. If the migrant flood keeps accelerating, I don't know what is gonna happen. I mean, the military is starting to pack up and flee, and... Feinne posted:Wait, they're openly bringing in the colectivos to do a military job they don't have the manpower for? I wonder if the Colectivos will simply be made into the venezuelan military if too many people leave the military.
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I think that by the absurd logic of the venezuelan government, venezuelan refugees could be classified as traitors and shot on sight. Given how the government has acted regarding anyone who disagrees with its policies, people who disagree with the way of life the government insists on and leave for another country might be at risk at some point in the future. Given all the other absurdities the venezuelan government has done, the above line of thought seemed reasonable. At some point there will be reports of empty towns because everyone fled to other countries.
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https://qz.com/1282733/venezuela-under-maduro-the-crisis-as-told-by-its-version-of-the-onion/ Venezuela’s unfolding crisis, as told by its version of The Onion This is a pretty good article Reading this stuff with google translate makes some of this stuff a little unintelligible, but I got a good laugh out of this article. http://www.elchiguirebipolar.net/01-05-2018/los-9-destinos-turisticos-de-merida-que-todo-venezolano-debe-conocer-antes-de-irse-del-pais/ The 9 tourist destinations of Merida that every Venezuelan should know before leaving the country quote:In this section of our section, which bears the same name as the one that a father never wants his son to study, Tourism, we will visit the city of Merida. A place that with its enviable climate, beautiful landscapes and friendly settlers -which with their beautiful red cachetitos will always want to charge more- is undoubtedly one of the places that any Venezuelan must visit before leaving the country, because we know that you are going, stop lying to us.
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I think venezuelans are gonna have to start learning how to make bolivars into arts and crafts like those handbags if they want to exchange it for dollars realistically now without hauling around cargo containers of bolivars.
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So Polio has made a grand return in venezuela. https://www.yahoo.com/news/measles-cases-surge-amid-venezuelas-crisis-202836638.html Polio makes comeback in Venezuela after decades
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