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Chuck Boone posted:Anyway, here's the video along with my translation below: Anyone who might be able to make a powerful left-leaning party lose face in South America will promptly face ridiculous trials/threats. I don't think any of these authoritarian moves have any relevance to actual socialist ideolgy. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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zocio posted:PS: gently caress Borneo Jimmy if he's serious about his support for the current Venezuelan government, and applauses if he's being ironically showing us how hosed up the supporters of the PSUV are in their views, drat that's a loooong con Jimmy.
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Chuck Boone posted:However many ideological similarities Iglesias might share with the PSUV, they apparently don't extend to throwing people in jail for speaking their minds, which is great. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:stupid question but is there going to be a war over all of this or does Columbia just not give a poo poo and wants to be the grown up in the situation. Colombia* I doubt an international war would ever happen inside south america. It's all about loving the civilians or people who can't really fight back. If two "powers" collided it would be a complete disaster, neither side would be able recover. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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quote:The Ministry of Defense released a statement saying that the "illicit airplane" entered Venezuela through the "northwestern region" (Zulia). Of course the solution to this unsightly menace is to go full state of exception on the states where most opposition voters live, months before the elections.
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Woolie Wool posted:Nobody wins and Venezuela loses. The proxy bullshit also destroys future possibilities of democracy, it spawns generations upon generations of (rightfully) jaded political fanatics. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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Whatever the US might be trying to do has clearly backfired for decades since the entire south american population is in an anti-usa fever, just ask anyone in the continent and you will confirm this. That article is really lazy though, it tries to simplify things into a "rebel vs empire" story. These so called revolutionary leaders that you defend don't actually stand in those "sweet lines for food" with the people. They're missing the revolution! Living in their mansions watching the people protest below, what an eccentric choice. There are several socialist parties with very different approaches, if the short sighted chavist approach failed, there might be some other socialists who who might be more successful in not screwing everyone over. It's doable.
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At this point if the opposition managed to win they would have a torn country in their hands and massive pressure upon them, if the PSUV wanted to sneak out they would let the opposition win, campaign against them from the sidelines as they struggle governing, and jump back in as soon as possible. Or maybe the goverment knows they screwed up so badly that they would never get re-elected if they let go, so they cling to their position as hard as they can, even when doing so slowly earns them dictatorship-level backlash. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Oct 15, 2015 |
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The opposition doesn't even need to plan a coup or anything similar since they would win the elections by a landslide. The shady thing is how the elections are being rigged by those in power, they even have the guts to pretend that they are the underdog "look at these corporate men asking for a coup" as if any intervention was even needed; internally people would already vote the psuv out. Noone needs or asks for anything other than the votes of every person being counted... At least there are other socialist parties in venezuela that are also critical of the psuv, parties and ideologies are two different things. I'm all for socialism, not for charismatic cults of worship towards your dear leader's wealth dynasty. Mozi posted:Nobody has posted about this? Uruguay just did the same last month to an ex-guerrilla who wanted to publish a book calling certain people out. Ended up sent to jail accused of invented charges. The formula is to confuse public opinion enough and divide it with shocking accusations, divert the attention from the real reasons these people are being imprisioned, so when the real reasons come out among people discussing it ... they become as worthless as the fake diversion. The book wasn't even that controversial ... Higher ups just clenched their asscheeks and sent him to the dungeon out of fear and built up grudges. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Oct 26, 2015 |
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Chuck Boone posted:"yo soy una persona impertinencia" ["I am an impertencia(?) person". I’m not sure what this means] wiregrind fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Oct 29, 2015 |
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-Troika- posted:Venezuela is well on it's way to becoming the second North Korea. they would have to effectively replace the media and internet with state-controlled knockoffs to prevent the masses from going apeshit when they can't login to facebook or watch the world cup. North Korea didn't have this problem back when they started their regime. I doubt the psuv would do that, way too much effort. The psuv is so incompetent that it makes the north korean government look like geniuses. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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Chuck Boone posted:(...) I also remember Twitter reporting weird outages, but I'm not sure if that was due to government action. I think there's no doubt that the connection will be partially or completely cut during key moments I just doubt that they would have the guts to do a permanent block. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Nov 4, 2015 |
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I wonder if they even realise that they don't represent "the people" anymore. "The people" want them out.
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I hope the MUD makes public how they are getting blocked after rightfully winning. I hope the information spreads. Because by the time the PSUV starts blaming the MUD for "not changing enough" or whatever the gently caress they come up with; the MUD should have documented and publicized all the shady poo poo that the PSUV had been doing to make the MUD powerless. The only hope the psuv has is for people to be uninformed or confused about the whole situation, so that later on they can invent whatever they want in their grandiose authoritarian speeches. wiregrind fucked around with this message at 09:52 on Jan 6, 2016 |
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