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They just want to make sure the proper people vote and that they vote properly, and if they don't that the proper result is still achieved - nothing nefarious at all, I'm sure.
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Pack it in, boys! Forget that 2-foot stack of incriminating documents, this anecdote has ruined it all. Also, they make electric mortars and pestles, you know. Or he could have just smashed them up a bit to make a point.
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Nobody has posted about this? Venezuelan Prosecutor Says Opposition Leader’s Trial Was a Farce NYTimes posted:MEXICO CITY — A few weeks ago, prosecutors in Venezuela won the conviction of a prominent opposition leader who had been charged with inciting violence during antigovernment protests. It was widely seen as a sign that the government of President Nicolás Maduro would continue to pursue a hard line against its opponents — and critics inside and outside Venezuela condemned the trial as being politically motivated. Glad that he made it out of the country OK, and hopefully there are many beans left to spill. Not that it wasn't obvious that the outcome of the trial was politically decided but it's good to hear it stated so bluntly by someone who knew the best.
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Oct 26, 2015 21:10
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Mans posted:Let's see what happens now. Things continue to get worse over the short term, PSUV grows again in opposition and sweeps back into power when MUD reforms are just about to bear fruit. Just a guess.
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Dec 7, 2015 16:18
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I'm sure his bus seat is still warm and waiting for him.
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Dec 8, 2015 14:53
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Hugoon Chavez posted:Obviously someone that drove buses is not smart enough to be president. For what it's worth I was just making a dumb seat -> seat joke and agree with you that there's plenty of actual issues to criticize instead.
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Dec 9, 2015 22:27
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How much longer can things go on like that?
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Apr 13, 2016 18:11
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If nobody has anything, everybody shares everything... The purest socialism! Personally I can't comprehend how people are still making it through the months down there - hope there is good luck of some sort, on some front, sometime...
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Apr 28, 2016 18:32
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How quickly can the shortages of staple goods be resolved, in principle? Does this all stem from the currency scheme?
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I'm having a hard time expressing this so hopefully I can get the gist across... It seems so crazy for a country not at war (and especially with such natural wealth) to be deprived of the basics of everyday survival. Flour, cooking oil, toilet paper. The things that aren't only taken for granted as part of the modern world but were probably taken for granted before that to some degree. And from what you've said it's not a matter of changing policy or throwing a switch - the infrastructure isn't there, the money isn't there, and the people are leaving. It's some crazy economist's daydream that's come alive and is hurting so many people. And heck - if the water keeps dropping and there's no power and no food and people take to the streets - it's not going to get them food or power. Things start to get measured in days while the remedy is months or years away. A terrifying situation - good luck to everyone there.
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May 2, 2016 16:52
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fnox posted:Why are you such a hypocrite in this matter? Why is it only a crime when it inconveniences your agenda? It's because for some reason he finds trolling this thread to be enjoyable; I have never seen him actually engage in a discussion so don't bother trying. I'm not even certain he has any link to Venezuela other than enjoying creating this reaction here.
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May 14, 2016 18:11
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Removing Maduro is more of a question than an answer, though it is necessary; as long as oil prices are low, the Venezuelan people will continue to suffer. Obviously there needs to be a transition away from that but it's just a huge question mark hanging over the next few years. He might be making disastrous decisions because of his true belief in Chavismo but it's really not clear what the right way forward is at this point, even if the entirety of the PSUV just vanished. One can only imagine it's going to take a great deal of help and support from neighboring countries, but who knows how that would work. edit: not a response to the above post, just coincidence
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Jun 1, 2016 17:48
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Well, the members of his inner circle are some of the primary beneficiaries of the crooked and corrupt system, so if they turn on him it's out of complete desperation and definitely would not be the first step towards a more sane government.
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Jun 1, 2016 18:04
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Who knows what things will look like in a month but congratulations, hope you end up putting it to good use.
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Jun 6, 2016 21:33
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At a certain point people are going to go hungry and riot and it won't matter what the state of the recall process is. There is no grand plan or design, the PSUV is like Wile E. Coyote already falling off the cliff and trying to pretend he's still in that moment of being suspended in air. A complete and total abdication of the basic responsibilities of the state to its citizens.
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Jun 8, 2016 17:41
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You should probably calm down and stop hanging around with so many Maduro shills.
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Jun 15, 2016 02:43
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I would hope that intervention and/or aid would come from other OAS states but they have been pretty bad at this so far. If Venezuela collapses they'll be most directly affected out of other countries so you'd think they would want to stave that off instead of making deals with Maduro.
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Jun 22, 2016 17:00
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Here is a short NYTimes video on the food shortages. No information we don't know already but some footage of looting I haven't seen before. He also mentions rising feelings against Chinese people, which isn't going to lead anywhere good.
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Jun 22, 2016 21:20
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What did end up happening? Anything concrete?
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Jun 24, 2016 16:21
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That happened in 2011 to Wilson Ramos, for example. Was back to play winter ball and was with his family when he was abducted by four armed men. He was rescued, fortunately, but yeah.
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Jun 24, 2016 19:54
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A cynic might suspect because it's too late now to actually succeed at that, so it's a safe way to look like he is doing something without risking taking on any responsibility.
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Jun 29, 2016 15:44
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At certain points in the development of many countries it seems to come down to whether the individual leader believes that continuing to build the institutions of the country is more important than continuing their own grip on power; from their perspective, it might be the choice between faith in those institutions and the people of the country and faith in themselves. Institutions take a long time to grow but can be ruined quite quickly.
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Jun 29, 2016 18:41
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I'm looking forward to the perpetrators being brought to justice. Apparently Citibank is pulling out of Venezuela as well: quote:Venezuela's President Nicolas Maduro said on Monday that Citibank NA C.UL, planned to shut his government's foreign currency accounts within a month, denouncing the move by one of its main foreign financial intermediaries as part of a "blockade." I'm not really sure about this site (ZeroHedge) but it had some related analysis: quote:Just over a year ago, cash-strapped Venezuela quietly conducted a little-noticed gold-for-cash swap with Citigroup as part of which Maduro converted part of his nation's gold reserves into at least $1 billion in cash through a swap with Citibank. With a picture of better times: 
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Jul 14, 2016 17:38
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That doesn't sound nearly socialist enough to possibly work in practice - the government should set the price he's allowed to sell hot dogs at in order to ensure he's not acting as an imperialist agent.
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Jul 28, 2016 15:23
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That's the sort of thing that could make somebody angry.
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Jul 31, 2016 03:49
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For the Venezuegoons in this thread, you are all mainly in larger cities, right? I kind of assume because Venezuelans who would post on SA, especially these days, would seem to be a pretty small and probably relatively well-to-do segment of the population, but that's just a guess. I'm wondering what life is like for the average poor person out in the countryside or in the smaller, more remote cities. All the info we get is reports from Caracas or other large cities but I'm really wondering what the situation is at locations from where we don't get any news.
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Aug 3, 2016 15:05
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Sad that Venezuela is losing so many talented people - hopefully in the future you can return to help build it back up again.
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Aug 9, 2016 17:39
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Venezuelan Constitution posted:“Article 250. This Constitution shall not lose its effect even if its observance is interrupted by force or it is repealed by means other than those provided herein. In such eventuality, every citizen, whether or not vested with authority, has the duty to collaborate in the re-establishment of its effective validity. Those who are found responsible for the acts mentioned in the first part of the preceding paragraph shall be tried in accordance with this Constitution and laws enacted in conformity with it, as shall the principal officials of governments subsequently organized if they have not contributed to the re-establishment of its force and effect.” Given that the PSUV has transformed Venezuelan democracy into a militaristic dictatorship...
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I'm surprised this hasn't been linked here yet.http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/world/venezuela-malaria-mines.html posted:The 12th time Reinaldo Balocha got malaria, he hardly rested at all. With the fever still rattling his body, he threw a pick ax over his shoulder and got back to work — smashing stones in an illegal gold mine. As a computer technician from a big city, Mr. Balocha was ill-suited for the mines, his soft hands used to working keyboards, not the earth. But Venezuela’s economy collapsed on so many levels that inflation had obliterated his salary, along with his hopes of preserving a middle-class life. It's a really great article but unfortunately is illustrating a terrible situation. The PSUV, through its corruption and negligence, is perpetrating an enormous crime against the Venezuelan people.
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Aug 15, 2016 01:49
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Yes, but 'man! go!' season is just around the corner.
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Aug 15, 2016 21:42
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It's just good idea to just put MIGF on your ignore list and get on with life, for what it's worth.
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"Venezuela: The people of Venezuela, true to their republican tradition and their struggle for independence, peace and freedom, shall disown any regime, legislation or authority that violates democratic values, principles and guarantees or encroaches upon human rights. Right after they finish this horse."
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Aug 17, 2016 16:51
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The Flintstones manner of transportation is more in line with the socialist ideal of power from the broad masses of the people in any case.
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Aug 31, 2016 13:53
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With all those CIA agents with bazookas running around you'd think it would be a bit more exciting, anyways.
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Any way you slice it, I'm surprised things seem to be more or less holding together still. The nauseatingly ineffective opposition certainly isn't helping but there isn't mass starvation or complete collapse, which is more than looked likely a few months ago. If things keep heading downward slow enough - if the freefall becomes a controlled crash-landing - the more time the army has to entrench and prepare for the long haul of running a repressive military dictatorship.
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Sep 6, 2016 20:09
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Chuck Boone posted:We’re living through an economic crisis (…) elections are not a fundamental right. A fundamental right is food, medicine, health. So he's admitting that the PSUV is unable to provide for Venezuelan's fundamental rights?
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Sep 22, 2016 20:55
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And just when you think it couldn't get any worse - "MLB moves Venezuela scouting showcase to Panama over security concerns posted:The situation in Venezuela has been deteriorating almost as fast as the country’s talent has risen in Major League Baseball.
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Sep 29, 2016 18:57
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There's another article by Nick Casey in the NYT and associated photo diary. It's about the state of Venezuela's mental hospitals and the effects of the lack of meds generally. Not going to quote anything because you might as well read them.
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Oct 1, 2016 21:08
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If the Army is already control of the economic apparatus, it might be a smart move to stand back and let the PSUV fall in hopes they can hang on themselves afterwards.
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Venezuela’s Government Plays Santa, After Seizing Millions of Toysquote:CARACAS, Venezuela — It was a haul that might have even given Santa Claus pause: 3.8 million toys, seized by Venezuela’s government on the grounds that their owners were hoarding castles and kiddie cars ahead of Christmas. I can feel the Christmas cheer all the way from here! More to the point, where does the PSUV think the toys are going to come from next year, now? Also I have a feeling that many kids would rather have, you know, food, than a 'Moon Dough Kit.'
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