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What is D&D's stance on mech control? Like should civilians be allowed the awesome power of a PPC or AC/20, or should there be regulations on anything more powerful than a medium laser? Should there be tonnage limits on mech ownership?
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Aug 27, 2015 15:53
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Rakosi posted:What do the pro-gun crowd say about the hordes of evidence that suggest gun restrictions/bans have a statistically significant effect in reducing gun crime in most other countries that have such legislation. Is the argument for guns literally only "Its our rights!!" and "black people will immediately rape my family in the middle of the night if I dont have firearms under my pillow"? A lot of those studies are based on extremely massaged statistics and are funded directly by gun control organizations. Also "gun crime" as a metric is stupid as hell. You're not an extra special kind of dead if you're killed by a gun rather than a knife or blunt object.
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Aug 27, 2015 17:22
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Tezzor posted:Let's not worry about "gun crime" specifically and instead just look at murder rates. Ok, the US has a murder rate 3-48 times that of anywhere else in the industrialized world, and the upper end of that range is our next door neighbor. Seems odd. It's also been steadily dropping for years, while gun sales have gone through the roof.
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Aug 27, 2015 17:32
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crabcakes66 posted:It has been dropping worldwide. Ours is still abnormally high compared to developed countries though. Can't find the graph, but haven't we always had a higher rate compared to Europe, going back decades?
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Aug 27, 2015 18:17
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CommieGIR posted:What about rights to carry a SRM-4 and a Small Laser? The anti-mech crowd doesn't even know what they're trying to ban. Like the legislating against the Mad Cat because it has the shoulder missile things that go up.
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Aug 27, 2015 18:47
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DeusExMachinima posted:Okay but for real though, everyone asks if there's a bat signal in TFR or something and that's probably true idk I don't really post there often these days. I don't know what it is either, but yeah it's fun. The GBS thread is even more ridiculous because you can just act like a total rear end. Also I love these mechwarrior analogies.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:05
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Who What Now posted:Good blaster didn't do Han much good when he met Vader, now did it? Counterpoint: That time han solo fought the sword guy in indiana jones.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:20
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LeeMajors posted:Police firearm competency is a joke. Also a separate issue. Ah yes the ol "because I say so" defense.
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Aug 27, 2015 22:34
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Rakosi posted:You're the side on the defense, I think. Because you've not offered one argument for having guns unrestricted in the manner they are currently that can't be digested into nationalist "It's are rights!!!". Actually you should probably defend your position on banning something other than "I'm afraid of them and uhhh I don't really know past that" LeeMajors posted:Instead of stamping your feet and crying that I'm not bent out of shape about it, see tezzor's posts for stamping and crying. More states than ever have legalized concealed carry and despite your screeching about blood in the streets, the streets are looking real dry from where I am.
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Aug 27, 2015 22:46
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"nobody's going to tell ME what to do!"
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Rakosi posted:I've listed a bunch of examples that provide my reasoning for my opinion. Yours is anecdotal. Actually we're pretty good at guns. We have a lot of them.
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Aug 27, 2015 23:01
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Rakosi posted:That is clearly not something everyone else thinks is a problem and instead something to celebrate. We are in total agreement here my friend.
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Aug 27, 2015 23:11
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Does every thread in D&D get this amount of vitriol or is it just gun.txt?
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Aug 28, 2015 00:08
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Rakosi posted:gun homicide rate Gun homicides are more special than regular homicides?
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Aug 28, 2015 00:24
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Rakosi posted:Yes because the topic is gun control iirc. Typical NRA distraction poo poo, answer my post first, please. So you're somehow double-dead when shot by a gun vs stabbed or beaten? Give me a break you clown. Instead of specifically targeting the gun violence boogeyman, try enacting measures that target the crime rate overall.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:36
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Effectronica posted:See, for example, how this guy, because he has had his psyche permanent warped by the presence of guns, believes in a vast hivemind of criminals, such that stepping up enforcement on securities fraud would lower the homicide rate. Haha what
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Aug 28, 2015 00:41
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Effectronica posted:Is this the final form of broken-windows policing? Nah more like reducing poverty rates. The sad fact is poor people tend to do more crime, and you tend to do less crime when you're living comfortably.
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Aug 28, 2015 00:45
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LeeMajors posted:What the gently caress ever. Its primary purpose is as an intoxicant, not as a loving lethal weapon. It's primary purpose or whatever is literally poison. The hilarious side effect is you get drunk and make posts like this on the forums.
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Aug 28, 2015 01:24
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LeeMajors posted:When the item in question is primarily designed to kill and is party to a incredible amount of efficient deaths, it warrants legislative attention. Does every inanimate object have some sort of spirit animal in your mind, dictating its one true use?
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Aug 28, 2015 01:43
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LeeMajors posted:Are you denying that guns were designed for the purpose of killing, and exist to that end today? I think you're arguing from a really weird place. Like the bow and arrow was designed to kill, do we ban that too?
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Aug 28, 2015 01:46
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Lol this is so ridiculous. All I can think of is that Homerpalooza episode of the simpsons where Marge goes "Cannons are designed to hurt! They're designed to hurt!"
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Aug 28, 2015 01:55
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Effectronica posted:Have you ever hosed a watermelon? No, have you?
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Aug 28, 2015 02:04
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The vast vast majority of guns aren't used to kill anyone. I think we're going to be okay, Lee. We're going to be okay.
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Aug 28, 2015 14:51
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Split bolts like in the Witcher 3 or one of those demon hunter abilities in Diablo 3 will work nicely thanks.
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Aug 28, 2015 17:36
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DeusExMachinima posted:uhhh excuse me guns are for closing theaters What about Chekov's Gun?
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Aug 28, 2015 18:19
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Who What Now posted:If Congress is wiped out you're already dead so being able to bear arms doesn't matter. Washington DC is like the glowing red weak point on a boss I guess.
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Aug 28, 2015 19:21
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Do any of you people believe you should defend yourself if attacked or your home is invaded by a criminal? If you should defend yourself, why not use the most effective means of defense: a gun?
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Aug 28, 2015 19:26
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Popular Thug Drink posted:statistically more people are murdered by family members than strangers, which is why i'm proud that tens of thousands of patriotic and responsible gun owning americans use their constitutionally protected rights to preemptively defend their families from themselves and their minds from the unwanted invasion of suicidal thoughts Are you referencing that silly rear end Kellerman study again?
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Aug 28, 2015 19:36
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raven4267 posted:Do you actually want to debate anything or just post stupid one liners? The anti-gun side has been getting poo poo on for the past decade. Their debate is basically just ineffective bitching and ad hominem at this point. They're a bunch of crybabies who refuse to take responsibility for their own safety or actions, and would prefer to depend on some vague authority figure to do it for them. They just want to punch a fat white redneck strawman and hug each other afterwards.
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Aug 28, 2015 19:46
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Who What Now posted:I know what you said. I also know what you said was a lie. People who don't want to shoot anybody don't talk at great length about how'll they'll totally shoot them some So what's your plan for it? Just roll over and give them everything they want?
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Aug 28, 2015 19:53
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Popular Thug Drink posted:sane people don't have plans to deal with an extremely rare event like home invasion. what's your plan for when you get mugged by a leprechaun? (it's to shoot the nearest minority with a gun) So your plan is for it to just not happen in the first place.
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Aug 28, 2015 19:55
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crabcakes66 posted:This is funny because any time a legitimate point is brought up by either side it's met with ad hominem attacks red herrings and strawman arguments. You give a little, you get a little. Who What Now posted:Lock my bedroom door, announce where I am and that I am calling the police You realize you're still 100% at the mercy of the guy(s) in your home. If he wants to break down that door and ensure no witnesses, you have no recourse whatsoever. This exact same scenario works a thousand times better with you pointing a gun at your bedroom door. You don't even need to leave the room.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:08
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raven4267 posted:So now I abuse my spouse also? I am a liar, a murderer, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a spouse abuser because I own a gun? Don't get dragged down to their level dude. They're literal idiots just wanting to circle jerk and punch strawmen.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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Who What Now posted:You realize if someone is intent on killing you they aren't going to be crashing through your house announcing themselves, and you're going to die without ever having a moment to go for your gun, which they probably also stole. So in your mind it's "nothing I can do, oh well" or "criminal calmly withdraws after I announce the cops are on the way"? Paint me the scenario you're envisioning here, where you die instantly without any chance to defend yourself.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:18
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Popular Thug Drink posted:well as long as we're talking about extremely unlikely fantasy scenarios i think in a home invasion the best defense is *rolls dice* iron man on speed dial So it's safe to not have any kind of plan, because "it can never happen to me".
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Aug 28, 2015 20:21
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Popular Thug Drink posted:congratulations, you've unlocked a new word: 'unlikely'. use it often, and well You're pretty drat unlikely to get shot in any kind of random shooting spree, yet you're all hot and bothered for gun control. Explain it.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:23
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raven4267 posted:I have never had a house fire, I guess people who do fire drills are stupid for planning for this unlikely scenario. I threw all my fire extinguishers away because it'll never happen to me. It's just too unlikely to even give it a single thought.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:24
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Who What Now posted:Pretty much, yes. The chances of you needing to defend yourself in the manner you described might as well be 0. You'd be more productive with your time thinking up a plan to survive a unicorn attack. So why bother with gun control at all? You're not going to get shot. People are unlikely to get shot in general just living their lives. Or maybe it's some bullshit culture war you've bought into? Really stick it to that fat redneck republican strawman?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:25
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Maybe these anti-gun posters secretly get off to the idea of being victimized?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:35
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Effectronica posted:That's not what the National Basketball Association does. The NBA and NRA should switch places one day without telling anyone. How fun would that be?
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Aug 28, 2015 21:19
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Lebron James pulls out a 9 and blasts the guy going for a layup. Meanwhile a man passes a basketball to a home invader as he climbs through a window and knocks him out.
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