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Troposphere posted:that's exactly the answer I was expecting from you No poo poo Sherlock you solved the mystery of the CYOA literally titled "Space Tits and rear end." E:The fact that it was empty calorie cheesecake art was so blindingly, stupifyingly obvious that I didn't comprehend the idea that it somehow needed pointing out. Applewhite fucked around with this message at 20:44 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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That doesn't excuse it, idiot.
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Afraid of Audio posted:That doesn't excuse it, idiot. I don't need an excuse, HTH.
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Applewhite posted:I was happy to finally bring life to a character design that had been rattling around in my head for a while, and I think it found satisfactory expression. I was able to workshop some sci fi ideas as well. "Space Tits" was more an essay in the craft of running a CYOA than what I would describe as a "serious" work. I think I also learned a lot about the kind of emotions the eroticized female form can evoke in a broad audience (as opposed to the narrow one that usually seeks out such content). Lol
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Sep 1, 2015 20:52
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Meis posted:Lol Meis gets it 
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Sep 1, 2015 20:53
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Applewhite posted:Meis gets it Bahahahaha
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Sep 1, 2015 20:54
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Do you ever like just listen to yourself? And somehow think hmm yes this doesnt sound like the posting of a pompous rear end at all...
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Sep 1, 2015 21:06
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Are you for real. I'm still sticking with my original "dumb GBS troll" pick, but goddamit I want to believe that somewhere, a man who thinks JK Rowling is a real wizard is sitting at his computer desk trying to sell people on the complex themes of Space Tits and rear end.
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Meis posted:Do you ever like just listen to yourself? And somehow think hmm yes this doesnt sound like the posting of a pompous rear end at all... It is the posting of a pompous rear end that's the point. You've talked to me, Meis, come on. I outright told you it was dumb Benny Hill level humor. SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I'm still sticking with my original "dumb GBS troll" pick, Well, my OP wasn't a troll but the whole "catharsis of Space Tits" thing was meant sarcastically and I pulled it out of my rear end on the spot. Watch I'll do it right now: Space Tits and rear end is meant to embody the larger themes of tension between social expectations and personal reality. Space Tits is a stereotypically "curvaceous" female on the surface, but underneath she struggles internally with society's expectation of a "masculine" identity. She projects this frustration onto her former partner, Space rear end. Space rear end's name has a double meaning, both referencing her posterior (or "rear end") and her stubbornness (as in "stubborn as an rear end"). Her struggles with society express themselves in the form of overeating (filling a void within herself) and her unwillingness to accept Space Tits's true feminine identity because it would mean (to her) that a formerly masculine figure in her life is more feminine than she will ever be. [/bullshit]
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Anyway if you want to discuss it further let's take the topic to GBS where it belongs. Go make the thread and maybe I'll be along. Or PM me if you want to talk it out. I'm not gonna waste any more space in CC with this stupid bullshit.
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Troposphere posted:welcome to creative convention
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Applewhite is cool His posting, wasted on us Create for others
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Applewhite posted:Thanks for the tip. I'm sorry if I do things differently. I know CC has evolved a slightly different posting culture than GBS. It's also why this thread was re-opened: CC's rules are different from those in GBS. If you had read them, you might've thought twice before closing your own thread. That aside... Applewhite posted:It definitely affected my creative life a lot and I think it has improved my consciousness quite a bit when it comes to producing more generalized content and audience selection. Because by claiming that drawing 'cheesecake,' as you've put it, into a character's design prior to implementing it into a choose-your-own-adventure project did not affect beyond a very business-like way, it appears that your claim is "my question only applies to everyone else, but not to me for reasons I will not reveal any time soon." As if by outsourcing the character's personality you've somehow waived any responsibility for their design. Or were you not afraid that by objectifying a woman via character design you would come off as a misogynist of some caliber? It might just seem a painfully obvious joke to you, helpfully labeled and packaged as such, and perhaps your desired audience saw it for what you meant it to be. But there's all kinds of humor out there. By picking the one you chose, did you believe that perhaps it wasn't going to become a telling aspect of your personality? That it says something about you what sort of things you feel are fine to make light of? That your joke might not only fall flat and might even outright offend some people? Do you ever worry that by writing a joke about a group of people you're not a member of you'll become unable to take said group seriously and vice-versa? Get it, it's your original dumb question given a practical spin.
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Applewhite posted:Anyway if you want to discuss it further let's take the topic to GBS where it belongs. Go make the thread and maybe I'll be along. Or PM me if you want to talk it out. I'm not gonna waste any more space in CC with this stupid bullshit. I am torn between never wanting this farce to end and finding you an insufferable person and poster.
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thanks modsApplewhite posted:It is the posting of a pompous rear end that's the point. You've talked to me, Meis, come on. I outright told you it was dumb Benny Hill level humor. 1) Yeah I have talked to you and if you recall I told you I don't agree with you on some things 2) Pulling the "haha! I was acting stupid on purpose! Now who's the dumb one?" defence makes you still look dumb. Like that last paragraph is pretty cringey to read even when I know you're being ironic. 3)Just because something is comedic doesn't mean it's immune to critique edit: mega-thanks to whoever changed my avatar 
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hello friends
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well, i am irl a villain to a number of people. i constantly enrich their lives with my villainous ways
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with Halloween around the corner, I am planning to dress as a spooky skeleton however I am worried that I will become a skeleton please advise
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The Saddest Rhino posted:well, i am irl a villain to a number of people. i constantly enrich their lives with my villainous ways Yeah, you can really give people's lives meaning by being a horrible person to rally against. Applewhite, you've done a great service by posting this thread.
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im basically a rubix cube of mary sues
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i am a villain in the 1980's timeline where the two protagonists split into good and evil but the twist is the good one was corrupted (inspired by my favorite writer christ metzen) and the evil one was merely misunderstood
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ElTipejoLoco posted:It's also why this thread was re-opened: CC's rules are different from those in GBS. If you had read them, you might've thought twice before closing your own thread. Ah okay. I apologize for the breach of etiquette. I felt bad enough wasting your time and thought closing the thread would be the most dignified option rather than have the thread drag on in a pointless flamewar. ElTipejoLoco posted:... It seems kind of unfair of you to pretend that creating a character design is somehow different than writing a character. Are you implying an artist's mindset is different from an author's? That, working under the assumption that an author is affected by their work, an artist who draws a slobbering individual contortion-ed in a straight-jacket, with tears, saliva, and snot dripping from their face, is affected less than an individual trying to write out the contents of said character's thoughts? I can only speak for myself, and can't tell you how you feel, but as a person who both designs characters in a visual medium and "writing" a character are two very different processes for me. My "artist" mindset is different from my "author" mindset. I certainly didn't mean to imply that an artist is not affected by their work, either. I do think that imagining the image of a subject and "getting inside the head" of a subject would probably affect the creator in different ways. ElTipejoLoco posted:Because by claiming that drawing 'cheesecake,' as you've put it, into a character's design prior to implementing it into a choose-your-own-adventure project did not affect beyond a very business-like way, it appears that your claim is "my question only applies to everyone else, but not to me for reasons I will not reveal any time soon." As if by outsourcing the character's personality you've somehow waived any responsibility for their design. I didn't intend to imply anything of the kind. A character's appearance, bearing and mannerisms create an impression on the viewer, and the viewer builds up their own idea of the character in his or her head that is shaped by that impression. Even as I intended Space Tits to be an empty vessel avatar for the players, I couldn't keep all my own ideas about her personality and history out of the design. ElTipejoLoco posted:Or were you not afraid that by objectifying a woman via character design you would come off as a misogynist of some caliber? Yes, but I can't base all my decisions on fear. ElTipejoLoco posted:It might just seem a painfully obvious joke to you, helpfully labeled and packaged as such, and perhaps your desired audience saw it for what you meant it to be. But there's all kinds of humor out there. By picking the one you chose, did you believe that perhaps it wasn't going to become a telling aspect of your personality? That it says something about you what sort of things you feel are fine to make light of? That your joke might not only fall flat and might even outright offend some people? I expect somebody to be offended any time anyone tells any joke stronger than a mild pun (and puns, of course, offend everybody). It's unreasonable to hold humor to an inoffensive standard. ElTipejoLoco posted:Do you ever worry that by writing a joke about a group of people you're not a member of you'll become unable to take said group seriously and vice-versa? I think jokes are a double edged sword in that regard. Mean jokes can exclude people and make them feel small, but the same mean joke in the right spirit can also be inclusive. It's an old saying "we only tease the ones we love" and I think it's very true. Friends "belittle" each other all the time, dredge up past embarrassments and even make prejudicial comments about race or sex. However, such jokes among friends are intended, not to belittle the person, but belittle the differences they supposedly mock. They break down the barriers between people and encourage a sense of belonging to a larger group that transcends our petty divisions. I did not intend to belittle any group with Space Tits, and I apologize if anyone felt belittled.
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to humanize my villains and make them relateable i always show them eating a slice of pizza (which i abbreviate as the 'za, because my demo is 13-18 year old internet users with high disposable income)
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applewhite i heard you made a dumb webcomic in gbs explain urself
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Applewhite posted:
draw smaller space tits and that would be more inclusive. actually draw more space tits of different sizes
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can you please draw me my own personal space tits? Then I would feel included
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oh my glob tits in space? theres reduced gravity. epic loving poo poo. wow, i cant believe ive never thought of that. jfc
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Realtalk: if you are legitimately worried that trying to write a character who isn't like you will change you into them, then you must have shockingly little sense of your own identity. If you know who you are and what you want from your life, there's no risk of "becoming the mask" if you'll forgive the terrible nerd expression.
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jon joe posted:can you please draw me my own personal space tits? Then I would feel included Yeah sure. PM me.
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we're actually all in a villain origin story right now, just before applewhite goes evil because we all misunderstand his posting
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Sep 2, 2015 02:58
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sometimes you just gotta take a chance and objectify women
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thomas harris literally cannibalised a bunch of people to write Hannibal. also sStephen King became two entities when he wrote The Dark Half, his evil Richard Bachman identity was eaten by a bunch of birds later
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Sitting Here posted:we're actually all in a villain origin story right now, just before applewhite goes evil because we all misunderstand his posting Depending on who you ask I've been evil for some time.
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Sep 2, 2015 03:01
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Troposphere posted:sometimes you just gotta take a chance and objectify women perhaps we should objectify... men!
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The Saddest Rhino posted:thomas harris literally cannibalised a bunch of people to write Hannibal. also sStephen King became two entities when he wrote The Dark Half, his evil Richard Bachman identity was eaten by a bunch of birds later hosed up if false.
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haha i was lying all the while
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when you think about it, I was actually taking a huge risk when I made my comic about women with huge tits, butts, dicks. you should be thanking me for my heroic bravery
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Troposphere posted:when you think about it, I was actually taking a huge risk when I made my comic about women with huge tits, butts, dicks. you should be thanking me for my heroic bravery thank you
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Troposphere posted:when you think about it, I was actually taking a huge risk when I made my comic about women with huge tits, butts, dicks. you should be thanking me for my heroic bravery thank you
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Troposphere posted:when you think about it, I was actually taking a huge risk when I made my comic about women with huge tits, butts, dicks. you should be thanking me for my heroic bravery thank you
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