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Liz Kendall saying "we can't simply solve this with a soundbite" while stamping on a migrant face - forever.
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You have to keep in mind that Corbyn's involvement is generally seen to have shifted the nature of the debate leftwards. If they weren't trying to compete with him then they'd be a fair bit more rightward but he's proven the balance of power lies in the left.
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Sep 1, 2015 17:30
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The balance of power lies in my bladder and the knowledge of which local Labour council candidates have a mail slot with no box behind it
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Tesseraction posted:The balance of power lies in my bladder and the knowledge of which local Labour council candidates have a mail slot with no box behind it Lmao if your babby bladder can't fill a mail box to overflowing. Just lol.
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My bladder is right weird. Seriously some days a 330ml can's worth of piss has me bursting and some days I can piss enough to fill a bucket. paige 3 bladderchat
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Sep 1, 2015 17:51
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I live for the day I can piss exactly 568ml of wee so I can down someone's pint and replace it before they even notice it. The downside of this plan is me willingly drinking Fosters.
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Tesseraction posted:I live for the day I can piss exactly 568ml of wee so I can down someone's pint and replace it before they even notice it. You'd technically be doing them a favour, if that helps.
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So what is even the deal with the Deputy Leader position? How much power and independence do they actually have? I've been procrastinating in looking into all the candidates, but with Caroline Flint setting out her 'I will have a strong madate to DESTROY CORBYN' stall it's making me wonder how many others will be actively hostile to a leftward move, and if they'll be able to do anything about it
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Sep 1, 2015 17:59
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Is the deputy leader the Chancellor by default or is that just how it's been presented?
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KKKlean Energy posted:
never had fosters from a pub? poo poo's flatter than water Vitamin P posted:Is the deputy leader the Chancellor by default or is that just how it's been presented? It's not a formal position. Hence why the Tories don't have one. Gideon just looks like one because he and Cameron are joined at the dick.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:07
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Vitamin P posted:Is the deputy leader the Chancellor by default or is that just how it's been presented? That's be the Shadow Chancellor, usually. Deputy leader is a role that is a bit ill-defined.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:08
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I think it's a traditional heir apparent role. (Shadow/Chancellor, that is).
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Sep 1, 2015 18:09
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Also I would guess Corbyn may either solidify the position or at least rely on it more given his hardon for democracy.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:11
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I am really looking foward to the mask slipping and Corbae enacting a stalinist purge of the Party 
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Sep 1, 2015 18:14
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Guavanaut posted:UKMT September 2015: They See Me Corbyn, They Hatin' Good job.
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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/01/elizabeth-monarch-queen The gap between her maj' passing and the goblin family taking over will be the best chance in a generation to get rid of these parasites imo, and it definitely will not happen.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:48
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A Polly Toynbee article that I broadly agree with? What is happening.
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Well, Blair used the deputy leader role (i.e. Prescott) as a diplomatic bridge to the left of the party. Before that it did seem to be more an heir apparent roll as the previous deputies seemed to have had more import jobs alongside. Edit: gently caress Roy Jenkins and the SDP forever.
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big scary monsters posted:A Polly Toynbee article that I broadly agree with? What is happening. Funnily enough I agree with her too - Kate Middleton is indeed a lot better-looking than Polly Toynbee. At least Kate's not a "brood mare" this time, which is the usual bit of rancid bile slung at her from these egalitarian progressive democrats. The other point of the article complaining about the New Elizabethan lack of 'resonance' is irrelevant nonsense anyway because these things will only ever be seen in historical retrospect when we've had time to reflect on them. What's it even meant to prove? Does the Queen need to personally inspire every building ever commissioned to justify herself? Should presidents across the world resign in shame and republics be abolished in acrimony because the Kingdom of Dubai has a taller skyscraper? Her stuck-up snobby sneer at the Royals' lack of "culture" is ridiculous too - weren't we scorning pretentious pounces like Johnathan Jones preening at how cultured they were just a few pages back? All that said though, I envy Polly. Sometimes I wish that I was a republican. Royal mentioned in the news -> copy-paste the exact same article I've had published 100 times before -> file -> collect my paycheque. It'd be the easiest gig ever. kapparomeo fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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kapparomeo posted:Funnily enough I agree with her too - Kate Middleton is indeed a lot better-looking than Polly Toynbee. At least she's not a "brood mare" this time, which is the usual but of rancid bile slung at her from these egalitarian progressive democrats. I'm not sure it would necessarily be easier than your current vocation of parroting generic right wing talking points. You're probably not paid for this one, mind.
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Being fair all of Polly Toynbee articles are copy pastes of previous ones that a sub-editor has to update to seem relevant. gently caress I mean she's only rich/famous because of lineage too so her whining about the royals is a massive hoot.
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A speech given by Chuka Umunna to Policy Network in which he boldly repeats the words "Social Democracy" (while apparently failing to understand that social democracy & the democratic socialism promised in the Labour Party constitution aren't actually the same thing), triangulates a lot and then most relevantly, "we must accept the result of our contest when it comes and support our new leader " He manages to say very little, repeats "markets" as if it was the name of his chosen deity, but I thought this was mildly interesting seeing as he's meant to be one of the new intellectual leaders of the Labour right along with some public school boy called Tristram. But the most noteworthy thing about it all to me is that he might resist throwing a hissy fit over the party membership rejecting Blairite dogma for a few months at least, and the fact he thinks driverless cars will be commonplace within the next decade.
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kapparomeo posted:Funnily enough I agree with her too - Kate Middleton is indeed a lot better-looking than Polly Toynbee. At least she's not a "brood mare" this time, which is the usual but of rancid bile slung at her from these egalitarian progressive democrats. quote:Sometimes I wish that I was a royalist. Royal mentioned in the news -> copy-paste the exact same article I've had published 100 times before -> file -> collect my paycheque. It'd be the easiest gig ever.
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forkboy84 posted:But the most noteworthy thing about it all to me is that he might resist throwing a hissy fit over the party membership rejecting Blairite dogma for a few months at least, and the fact he thinks driverless cars will be commonplace within the next decade. Yeah right I'll believe it when I see it. If he's quiet it's only because he's plotting, can't trust the man any further than you can throw him.
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kapparomeo posted:Funnily enough I agree with her too - Kate Middleton is indeed a lot better-looking than Polly Toynbee. At least she's not a "brood mare" this time, which is the usual but of rancid bile slung at her from these egalitarian progressive democrats. Finally! The 'progressive' left has stopped criticising the regressive roles of women in the royal family, and is back to some good honest leering at the m'ladys. Phwoar!
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forkboy84 posted:some public school boy called Tristram What really gets me is that Tristram Hunt (the rhyming slang writes itself really) studied the works of Engels and Lenin in order to write a book documenting the evolution of Engelist Marxism to Stalinism via Leninism and comes to the academic conclusion (from studying original documents by Lenin in Russia) that Marxism and Engel's socialist path were not to blame for the crimes of the Soviet Union. He then decided Blairism rules gently caress yeah!!! and become a shithead. But then with a name like his I guess his non-shithead days were working on borrowed time.
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OwlFancier posted:Yeah right I'll believe it when I see it. If he's quiet it's only because he's plotting, can't trust the man any further than you can throw him. If Chuka's promising to respect the result of the leadership contest, I'd take that as a sign that he's managed to fix it for Kendall.
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Just got an email from Cooper. Apparently I should vote for her because one six-person focus group and one seven person focus group thought that she was best.quote:Hi Team Overhead Smash, team overhead smash fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/financial-red-tape-targeted-in-new-review Those poor British businesses being kept down by the anti money laundering regulation. It's all worded very "we need to increase effectiveness", but it annoys me. I work in Compliance, and UK's AML regulation is actually really good. In fact, nearly everything the Financial Conduct Authority does is really loving good (in case anyone is wondering they they didn't do much to stop the 2008 financial crisis: they didn't exist back then). The only problem is that a lot of the regulation is not followed, as the fines are still too small so it's still more profitable for banks that don't care about reputation to just not bother. The fines have been increasing rapidly lately, though. Good thing George Osborne is on the case! http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-17/fca-s-wheatley-to-quit-osborne-seeks-different-leader
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/financial-red-tape-targeted-in-new-review It's a bit disingenuous to say the FCA didn't exist - it's mostly just a subset of what was the FSA. That being said, regulation is only ever as good as the political will behind it and most career regulators (i.e. the people who don''t spend a few years working there to jump ship to a lucrative private sector job) will be the first people to admit the shortcomings and problems light touch regulation has caused.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:It's a bit disingenuous to say the FCA didn't exist - it's mostly just a subset of what was the FSA. So might as well not have existed for all it could do.
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kapparomeo posted:Her stuck-up snobby sneer at the Royals' lack of "culture" is ridiculous too - weren't we scorning pretentious pounces like Johnathan Jones preening at how cultured they were just a few pages back? I thought we were deriding him for dismissing an incredibly popular authors entire works without having read a single word of it, but don't let that get in the way of the straw-assembling.
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Slake Fistcrunch posted:I'd appreciate some bailiff advice... Sorry I'm a bit late to the party on this one, but definitely give the Money Advice Trust a call. They're a UK charity giving advice on debt and how to deal with bailiffs is something they can definitely help with.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:https://www.gov.uk/government/news/financial-red-tape-targeted-in-new-review
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team overhead smash posted:Just got an email from Cooper. Apparently I should vote for her because one six-person focus group and one seven person focus group thought that she was best. I wonder if that token mention of the working class would even be there were it not for Corbyn.
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Chocolate Teapot posted:I wonder if that token mention of the working class would even be there were it not for Corbyn. That's such an afterthought it's disgraceful.
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Kegluneq posted:That's such an afterthought it's disgraceful.
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Tesseraction posted:What really gets me is that Tristram Hunt (the rhyming slang writes itself really) studied the works of Engels and Lenin in order to write a book documenting the evolution of Engelist Marxism to Stalinism via Leninism and comes to the academic conclusion (from studying original documents by Lenin in Russia) that Marxism and Engel's socialist path were not to blame for the crimes of the Soviet Union. Don't forget the time he crossed a picket line to deliver a lecture on it
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