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Bedshaped posted:I don't really know much about these other labour candidates beside Corbyn but they seem reasonable enough centre-leftists beside Liz Kendall. If you went by this thread I was expecting to find every non-Jeremy somewhere right of Hitler. They were much worse at the beginning of the contest before they realised the labour membership are left wing and like left wing things
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im always bemused by people making speeches about the party whilst out of the country E: Chuka is positioning himself to be the united labour candidate for 2020, but if he does get in he'll chase neoliberalism as standard - this might be the new new labour tactic - theyve realised if they are seen to be screwing with/playing politics with corbyn everyone will hate them so they need someone who is above all that/not connected to it to eventually run in the leadership election if they do mange to oust him Phoon fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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hes got five years to kill off everyone who knows his secret The press loving love him though, they always refer to him as a moderniser which is odd since he seems to be mostly advocating the status quo In that piece he even talks about corbyn raising taxes on small business like "how outrageous that he wants to do this" but corbyn has talked repeatedly about protecting small businesses (with possible tax breaks, possible rent controls on smaller commercial/retail properties etc)
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Its a very common worldview and its encouraged by the rich and right wingers at every opportunity. its also one of the major themes of ragged trousered philanthropists
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How so?
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Sep 2, 2015 15:38
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As a child I only read books with wizards
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Sep 2, 2015 15:43
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MrL_JaKiri posted:And what books did the wizards read with you? I hope there is a charity somewhere where wizards teach disadvantaged children to read
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eu could allocate extra refugees to places with an offer of bonus funding e: and use the bonus funding to make those places nicer for both refugees and residents Phoon fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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Amish can use trains but they have to pretend like they accidentally got on it and they dont understand how its moving
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Sep 3, 2015 10:05
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My mortgage is a lot less than the rent on that shed
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Sep 3, 2015 10:32
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I travel every day by train
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cant wait for this to be on huge screens in all our cities
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Sep 3, 2015 16:37
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Abott is nice but shes no good at interviews, at the peoples assembly march she was also the least inspiring i thought
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Prince John posted:It would be interesting to see how it varies over time. I was in school just past the turn of the millennium so maybe things are done differently these days. Most local government owned museums just don't have the space to display most of their art, I'm checking out the BMAG collections centre next weekend and by all accounts it is huge. Seems to me like the solution is to open more museums but knowing the taxpayers alliance what they want is for the government to sell the art to them
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Trin Tragula posted:Don't worry, they made it better. It's now named after a cat food. (I am not making that up.) jesus christ
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george orwell was a world famous satirist of course he should have things named after him
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Prince John posted:This justifies the Taxpayer's Alliance raising the issue though. Is it moral for local councils to accrue hordes of artwork that they know they don't have sufficient display space for? Should it even be in the function of a local council to have an art collection? Most of the art will be quite low value, importance and unheard of its just they have a very large volume of it
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Miftan posted:Hi UKMT! I know bookchat was in the last thread but I was wondering if any of those books recommended are good for someone who is already heavily invested in the Capitalism Bad camp but has no understanding of economics to save their life. I was thinking of starting with Piketty but I thought i'd get your opinion first and you guys seem to understand that topic quite well. Stiglitz is easy to read though more focused on reforming capitalism than replacing it
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The metro is owned by the mail
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Chocolate Teapot posted:Great post, brilliant read. I can't help but look at bits of it and think that video games "journalism" was just a horrifying preview of what "proper" news would turn into later. what
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thats what video game press has always been though, same as all hobby press, theres no process of dismantling the once effective old system like we're seeing with journalism - i suppose you could say a press as compliant as a hobby press is the end goal of the very wealthy but it just seems a weird parallel to draw
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stonehenge isnt a real henge according to the archaeological definition which just proves whoever wrote that definition was a contrary motherfucker E: excerpt from my stand up set about henges
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I think this week the Tories will get their message together on the refugee crisis and we'll see 1. A relatively small increase in refugees to be accepted trumpeted as a great humanitarian response 2. Lots of tories talking about taking refugees isn't solving the problem and suggesting bombing syria more asap 3. Using the focus on terrorism and Syria to push further erosion of civil liberties, the encryption ban etc
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Guavanaut posted:So, it looks like this is going to hit 100,000 signatures. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 Hang those that bum the poppy etc. this is extremely inaccurate  E: ^^ no its a waste of time/fig leaf, theres no way to challenge a government response even if it completely ignores the actual text of the petition (see cannabis one) and they are only committed to "considering" a debate on a subject
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Sep 7, 2015 16:17
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Corbyn asked about progress toward an international political agreement on syria and cameron basically called him a terrorist in response
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I knew it E: you dutch gently caress Phoon fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 16:55
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I think some tory strategists must have decided corbyn is a real danger, especially with public sentiment seeming to turn somewhat on refugees - they're now attempting to whip up as much "bomb syria" sentiment (and hoorays for bombings that happen) as possible so they can use it to attack corbyn as weak/an appeaser if he wins, a classic strategy for right wingers opposing popular lefties
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Don't have timestamp read it on the guardian politics live feed
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It doesn't even make sense he asks about an international summit on syria and cameron responds by accusing him of being friends with hezbollah and hamas
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Sep 7, 2015 18:36
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It is clear that he's an Islamic terrorist just look at his beard
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I suspect this panorama will be awful but I just saw a woman in a lil sebastian t shirt
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This is incredible they're massively playing up the sinister unions angle e: "unfashionable causes" cuts to the thing about his clothes, no mention of apartheid Phoon fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 20:37
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Whenever they show len mcluskey or any unions they play sinister music
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Its actually incredible, days before the vote, focused entirely on one candidate, only interviews young people and union people on the pro-corbyn side and constantly accuses them of naivety, interviews prominent new labour figures and doesn't ask them any questions about their own position
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Labour have finally expelled a tory from the party
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That 50% is from a week ago though. I don't think Jeremy will win tbh, I think Cooper or Burnham will scrape through with 51% after everyone else is eliminated, declare themselves the unity candidate and then go back to ignoring the left entirely, Blair will write a piece saying that leftists now must do as democracy says and fall in line, some lefties will stay in the party and try to make a difference but the rest will believe the whole thing was rigged (either underhandedly via purging or just as a result of disgustingly biased media) and leave or stick around and just stop bothering to be involved
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Sep 8, 2015 10:16
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The argument you should do what the majority wants won't work in this instance specifically because of how this campaign has played out, rightly or wrongly the establishment of the party have done everything they can to stop corbyn and the corbyn supporters are aware of this - people have to believe the democratic contest was fair and reasonable if you expect them to accept the result Whereas if corbyn wins he's won despite open bias from the media and condemnation from the party (of course the non-corbyn will claim that it was trot entryism)
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scan and email them to those smug fuckers E: the letters
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Khaaaaaaan E: he seems alright from what I've seen
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polly toynbee is the commentariat person i hate most i think E: most of them just float alongside society being annoying but toynbee actively helped thatcher get elected by splitting the vote in a labour seat and now she wont loving shut up about division in the party as if its the fault of the leftists and not the people threatening division Phoon fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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