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Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

katlington posted:

You can't bomb the problem away, so what can you do?

Sure you can.

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Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

Chomskyan posted:

How exactly does this all pan out in your dream scenario?

Assad loses and goes into hiding, Alawites are genocided, war continues between ISIS and de facto US-lead rebel coalition. Five years and ten million dead people later ISIS loses and the area they hold is ethnically cleansed. This is the best case, worst cases involve dead Russian troops and escalation with neighboring countries as fighters cross the borders both ways.

If we're talking unrealistic dream scenarios: Jesus Christ steps down from heaven and stops the fighting. Everyone goes home and lives happily ever after.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

This is an excellent post. Unfortunately I do not think either side will believe you, and the world will be worse off for it.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

One side will continue to be against all changes in policy, other will continue to be naive. Certainly we could do better than that?

e: or to write it out more clearly, I thought the post was a good insight into the current divide we have. One side is against letting people come at all, one is willing to do the humane thing but seems so very blue-eyed about it. I don't think these two groups are willing to budge from their trenches, though.

Hob_Gadling fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 6, 2015

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer

Ligur posted:

It's horrible here. Please don't come.

Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer
We should give Ligur a medal. Maybe now you'll all think this place is a racist shithole and leave us alone.

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Hob_Gadling
Jul 6, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Grimey Drawer
If they want to come here, they better eat poo poo like the rest of us.

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