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Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Ligur posted:

"If you go to Sweden, you will get a house, a lot of money, and a girlfriend".

Sounds good to me! Seriously though, why shouldn't they have a chance at that? Scandinavia has a lot to give - sounds like you are just being selfish.

Sweden has been very good to me and I think we can do more, even if it hurts a little. I guarantee that the vast majority of these refugees are not bored men looking to meet hot blondes.


VVV It's depressing how common his point of view is becoming

Red Rox fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 4, 2015

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Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Ligur posted:

I'm all for people getting to move from place A to place B as long as they are not a burden to place B.

Better to be a burden than dead. Quite a few of us "burdens" turn out to be productive members of society.

I think you are focusing on the wrong issue here. There are aid organizations that specifically help refugee children (not babe-seekers) maybe you could donate some time or money to them?

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Ligur posted:

I said move from a safe place. Are you intentionally not understanding what I'm saying? People in safe countries and in safe camps are not about to die, lest they go to Sweden.

I'm saying you are focusing on the wrong issue here. These people are not risking death or worse just because they can't get a job at home, or want to meet Swedish babes.

Yes, some people will use this crisis as an opportunity to move to a better country, but I don't think it's horrible if we also accidentally help them while trying to the refugees.

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Blue Star Error posted:

I'm just struggling with the idea here that economic migrants making asylum claims in the midsts of a horrendous refugee crisis are people to be defended. Which is what the post I replied to was doing.

Yeah gently caress those people right? I'm not defending them, if they even exist, I'm saying focusing on them is distracting people from the real issue.

Maybe people are just using it as an excuse not to do anything about the problem. Or so they don't feel guilty for not helping.

Red Rox fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Sep 4, 2015

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