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Put $5 on this line up. First time ever playing a Weekly line up. Beat out 20 people and took home first place for a cool $45. Thank You Donte Moncrief for single handedly moving me from 4th to 1st.  If any Aus goons are thinking of trying MoneyBall.com give it a go. Some dunce started Montee Ball last week, 2 people started Le'veon Bell and another started Dez Bryant. Ol Sweepy fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Poker got banned pretty much out of the blue with just a couple upset congressmen sticking a clause in a completely unrelated bill that nobody read. The extreme advertising that DraftKings and FanDuel are doing this season is picking up a lot of eyes and there's going to be some special interest groups not too happy. I hope I'm wrong since it's fun, but it just seems like a big target for anti-gambling groups. The originator of the bill to change the laws involving DFS is Pallone and he is the congressman in my great state, which just so happens to be so anti gambling it's crazy. The loophole for DFS is enormous but honestly is completely Congress is notoriously slow in catching up with anything internet based and related things and the lobbists for the sports teams would NEVER let them seriously muck up the law. What I do see happening is Congress figuring out a way to get in on a cut of the money by added hurdles and taxes to those companies who run DFS. Outright illegal though? I think this type of thing brings legalized gambling closer to the forefront than farther....
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This lineup got me 7th ($1750) in the fantasydraft $25 entry. I had Decker last night and was expecting 5-10 points to win a few hundred bucks. Going into halftime only 19pts points separated me and 1st place and no one else had any players left. He did nothing the 2nd half unfortunately. The Jets super conservative play calling is infuriating to watch when you have players on that offense. 
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GlobalHero06 posted:This lineup got me 7th ($1750) in the fantasydraft $25 entry. I had Decker last night and was expecting 5-10 points to win a few hundred bucks. Going into halftime only 19pts points separated me and 1st place and no one else had any players left. He did nothing the 2nd half unfortunately. Decker actually left the game with a PCL injury, otherwise you could have had a really big score. That's still a sick win though, congrats.
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I thought Pallone was the guy always banging the drum for legalized sports betting? I assumed he was going for a "if dfs is legal why isn't betting legal too" angle, not a "let's ban dfs" angle.
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Re: legality, it's my understanding that DFS isn't legal because of some loophole in UIGEA, it's legal because it was expressly carved out as legal (in the same way that horse racing is frequently carved out as legal in similar laws). From the act, listing things that are not included in the definition of "bet or wager":quote:(ix) participation in any fantasy or simulation sports game or educational game or contest in which (if the game or contest involves a team or teams) no fantasy or simulation sports team is based on the current membership of an actual team that is a member of an amateur or professional sports organization (as those terms are defined in section 3701 of title 28) and that meets the following conditions: That's pretty clear and expressly authorized. It probably took some powerful interests to get such clear language inserted in the bill in the first place, and I don't think dozens of brands worth a collective several billion dollars would hitch their wagon to something like this without knowing it's safe. With online poker, I think we all knew the clock was ticking back in 2006. With DFS, I don't think there's even a remote chance that it gets banned. Regulated? Maybe, but not to any significant degree.
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I averaged about 105th in my double ups where only the top 100 cash out. The ravens giving me -1 points really screwed me. Every single defense I was even considering this week was terrible, with the exception of the saints who were merely mediocre. In retrospect, my picks were good, but RBs under performed across the board, as did many of the top QBs and the hyped defenses. I guess I need to alter my selection criteria for RB/QB/DST next week. EDIT: I also agree that it is unlikely that they will explicitly ban DFS since it would be difficult to ban it without banning other clearly unobjectionable fantasy sports. CompeAnansi fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Tortilla Maker posted:I spent $3 and won back $4 on DK. I play in a league with longtime friends that has money on the line but is mostly for bragging rights and having fun. DFS gives me an outlet for taking things "seriously," and lets me justify the amount of time that I spend reading about fantasy stuff online so that I don't have to drag down the season long league by being a tryhard. My friends league is a lot more fun now that I can play a bit looser and not worry about anything since I'm stressing over my daily lineups instead. I dipped my toes in week 1 and won $20 from about $10 in entries. Week 2 I entered more contests but did pretty poorly, bringing my net profit to $.10 total so far. Onward to week 3!
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I write about gambling-related issues for a living, so just to hit the highlights of the legal discussion:JoshTheStampede posted:I thought Pallone was the guy always banging the drum for legalized sports betting? I assumed he was going for a "if dfs is legal why isn't betting legal too" angle, not a "let's ban dfs" angle. This is correct! I mean, it sure seems that way, anyway. This is even more clear when you look at what Pallone asked for: he didn't really ask his fellow Congressmen to look into the legality of DFS, but rather what the relationship was between the sports leagues and the DFS sites. In other words: why are they in bed but trying to stop us from legalizing sports betting? Sub Par posted:It probably took some powerful interests to get such clear language inserted in the bill in the first place, and I don't think dozens of brands worth a collective several billion dollars would hitch their wagon to something like this without knowing it's safe. With online poker, I think we all knew the clock was ticking back in 2006. This is also correct! In 2006, there was already a lot of fear that a ban was coming; we just weren't prepared for how it would happen, which was sudden and with no debate. The industry had no protection or political support in the United States, but had made a lot of enemies. Yuzenn posted:The originator of the bill to change the laws involving DFS is Pallone and he is the congressman in my great state, which just so happens to be so anti gambling it's crazy. You think New Jersey is "so anti-gambling it's crazy?" In just the last couple of years, your state government has regulated online poker and casino sites, is looking into building a North Jersey casino to compete with the ones coming in NY, and has engaged in several lawsuits against the major sports leagues and the federal government in an effort to legalize sports betting. Also, to clarify: there is no bill, and he has made no proposal to change any laws involving DFS. OrangeKing fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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OrangeKing posted:I write about gambling-related issues for a living, so just to hit the highlights of the legal discussion: While online poker died in a big way in the us when the UIEGA passed it really didn't go away to the extent it has until Black Friday in April 2011 (right?)
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Forgive my mistype but I meant Legalized sports gambling, not overall gambling. The Governor has made a pretty big line in the sand about Sports Gambling even when the efforts in the State Legislature has tried to open up the rules to allow for it at casinos to start and then to allow residents to join sports betting websites. All of the efforts to legalize sports betting got struck down by the Third Circuit Court and currently is not able to be appealed. The State just cannot get around the PASPA law and FYI those major sports leagues sued NJ (and won in 2013), not the other way around...they want the status quo the exact way it is and if they are not getting a cut no one else will be. The remaining two options are getting Congress to 1) repeal the law (and thus the ban), which is not even in the realm of possible or, 2) petition the Supreme Court - which is possible if other states get behind the petition but most likely won't result in a win for sports betting. And while yes there is no bill, Pallone just intiated a call for the the hearing about DFS sites. It's not going to go very far though. Lesniak is also pretty vocal about the issue but without the implicit blessing of the Governor and other states co-petitioning the high court I'm not going to hold my breath for it happening in NJ. The State Legislature has tripped on its own feet in getting a concise and unified opinion about sports betting, and has had opposition from the Gov office for years. I do agree with you in the fact that they just want to wrap their head around the idea more than stop it, but DFS is much easier to rationalize and prove as completely legal than traditional sportsbooking and betting. Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Sep 22, 2015 |
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Which of the "value" running backs do you guys think are the best plays this week? Crowell vs OAK - $4500 Woodhead @ MIN - $4400 JStew vs NO - $4900 Blount/Lewis vs JAX -$4200 (4k for Blount) Bernard @ BAL - $4700 Morris @ NYG - $4700 Ivory @ PHI - $5000 I've got Crowell, Woodhead and Stewart in my speculative lineup but was wondering what you guys thought. These are the prices on DK, for what it's worth.
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Santheb posted:Which of the "value" running backs do you guys think are the best plays this week? I'd go with Ivory/Lewis and a cheap high upside WR in the flex. It's 1 PPR, so i would rarely be starting 3 RB's over 3 WR's.
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VietCampo posted:I'd go with Ivory/Lewis and a cheap high upside WR in the flex. It's 1 PPR, so i would rarely be starting 3 RB's over 3 WR's. It's 3 WRs + a flex and yeah I definitely feel you there. In one of them I've got Brown/Edelman/Fitz and in another lineup Brown/Edelman/ARob, but adding a fourth WR as the flex is probably the best thing to do. You think Lewis is still trustworthy after his fumbles though?
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Anyone interested in a $2 Goon league for this week on fantasydraft.com? If we get 10 people top 4 get paid?
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Ivory re-aggravated his groin and there's a chance the Jets start spelling with Zac Stacy until he's back to 100%.
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Santheb posted:Which of the "value" running backs do you guys think are the best plays this week? I like Woodhead a lot because he gets PPR points as a running back and sometimes does get goal line touches. I usually like anyone playing JAX but they've been stingy lately about running backs so I'd say that as long as Matt Jones doesnt leech touches Morris will be a great play as well.
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Ozu posted:Ivory re-aggravated his groin and there's a chance the Jets start spelling with Zac Stacy until he's back to 100%. Where do you see that he re aggravated his groin? The latest update from not too long ago that I see says he didn't suffer any setbacks and should be good to go against the Eagles.
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Ozu posted:Ivory re-aggravated his groin and there's a chance the Jets start spelling with Zac Stacy until he's back to 100%. Why wouldnt they be starting Powell instead?
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Yuzenn posted:I like Woodhead a lot because he gets PPR points as a running back and sometimes does get goal line touches. I usually like anyone playing JAX but they've been stingy lately about running backs so I'd say that as long as Matt Jones doesnt leech touches Morris will be a great play as well. That's my concern about Morris as well. I'm a Redskins fan and was stoked to see Jones do so well, but it really makes playing a Redskins RB a little dicey. However I think they're going to limit Jones touches to try and keep him fresh. They held him out of a few games of training camp when he wasn't even injured or nicked up, just to keep him fresh. Then again, it could just turn into a hot hand situation, and that's Jones right now.
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VietCampo posted:Where do you see that he re aggravated his groin? The latest update from not too long ago that I see says he didn't suffer any setbacks and should be good to go against the Eagles. @MMehtaNYDN Bowles admits he wasn't sure whether Chris Ivory (groin) would make it thru the game. He's "very sore" now. The SituAsian posted:Why wouldnt they be starting Powell instead?
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But last night when they needed to close out the game running they did it with Powell. Also I'll never not play woodhead on DK. He's basically a 50/50 split with Gordon who isn't very good and gets passing downs and redzone looks. He almost can't fail to get 3x value as a floor.
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The SituAsian posted:While online poker died in a big way in the us when the UIEGA passed it really didn't go away to the extent it has until Black Friday in April 2011 (right?) Correct. Party and a few others immediately left the US market, but it was still super easy to deposit, withdraw, and play on FTP, Stars, and others until April 2011. Depositing got harder and harder as the years wore on, but it was never hard enough to keep the fish away. gently caress, I miss online poker.
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Sub Par posted:Correct. Party and a few others immediately left the US market, but it was still super easy to deposit, withdraw, and play on FTP, Stars, and others until April 2011. Depositing got harder and harder as the years wore on, but it was never hard enough to keep the fish away. gently caress, I miss online poker. I miss it as well. Now I'm stuck at brick and mortars with the same old guys slowplaying everything trying to hit the bad beat jackpot all day. I don't make nearly enough to justify the time there as opposed to 4-6 handing SnGs on my computer WHILE being at work. As people have pointed out, I haven't figured out a way to make any real money on daily fantasy, so I basically play a bunch of big tournaments for silly fun and a hundred dollar 50/50 or whatever.
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RE Legality of DFS I would agree with the sentiment that, at least as a legal activity, it is here to stay. Even after poker was effectively "outlawed" in October 2006 it still existed in a big way until April 2011. And after some the really shady poo poo that many sites (namely Full Tilt engaged in) I'm kind of glad that someone did something. Also, online poker and casino gaming had powerful enemies from the start like Sheldon Adelson and even though pretty much all of them except Adelson have come around all the large brick and mortar gaming operators like MGM, Caesars and Boyd Gaming while many of the sports leagues are forming dfs parternships, and Adam Silver has straight come out in favor of legalized gaming. Moving onto this week I decided to burn one of the my Millionaire maker tickets and made this QB: Carson Palmer $6,600 RB: David Johnson $4,000, Danny Woodhead $4,400 WR: Julian Edelman $7,000, Larry Fitz $5,800; Jarvis Landry $6,400 TE: Travis Kelce $5,000 Flex: Randall Cobb $7,300 DEF: Seahawks $3,400
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Joined a 6$ contest on DK with QB T. Brady $7700 RB D. Lewis $4200 RB D. Woodhead $4400 WR A. Brown $8900 WR S. Johnson $4300 WR J. Jones $9000 TE C. Gillmore $3300 FL A. Robinson $5200 DS Jets $3000 As you can see i went really heavy at WR and a top 5 QB play. With the RB's, i'm went with 2 RB's that have been returning huge points on really good value, so hopefully they keep it up. Went fairly low on TE, but with Gillmore emerging as a legit red zone threat and gaining Flacco's trust, he stands a good chance of getting a TD. Jet's have a decent matchup against the Eagles. Come on i just want to double up. edit: no idea why i put rams, i looked at the matchup literally 20 seconds before i typed that. VietCampo fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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VietCampo posted:Joined a 6$ contest on DK with Jets play the Eagles this week....
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The SituAsian posted:While online poker died in a big way in the us when the UIEGA passed it really didn't go away to the extent it has until Black Friday in April 2011 (right?) Yeah, UIGEA kind of blunted the forward momentum for the industry, but it was Black Friday that killed online poker in the US (and hurt it everywhere else because of the massive loss of liquidity when all us Americans were gone). Yuzenn posted:Forgive my mistype but I meant Legalized sports gambling, not overall gambling. The Governor has made a pretty big line in the sand about Sports Gambling even when the efforts in the State Legislature has tried to open up the rules to allow for it at casinos to start and then to allow residents to join sports betting websites. All of the efforts to legalize sports betting got struck down by the Third Circuit Court and currently is not able to be appealed. The State just cannot get around the PASPA law and FYI those major sports leagues sued NJ (and won in 2013), not the other way around...they want the status quo the exact way it is and if they are not getting a cut no one else will be. Oh, I completely agree that the state can't get around PASPA when it comes to legalized sports betting, no matter how hard they try (the latest attempt was clever, but not really convincing). They are trying to petition for the whole Third Circuit to hear the case, but even if the court wants to hear the case again, I doubt they'd win there any more than they did with the three-judge panel. And yes, the leagues sued NJ after they passed a sports betting law - sorry if I wasn't clear in my last post! Yuzenn posted:Jets play the Eagles this week.... That might be even better!
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Yeah the Jets are 3k and have 10 takeaways in 2 weeks, and the Eagles are a trainwreck.
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So has draftkings always offered League of Legends dfs or is this new?
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The SituAsian posted:So has draftkings always offered League of Legends dfs or is this new? That's new and sad. Edit: The degenerate in me just threw a buck on one of the contests. I picked all the top scorers and still had $9300 left over. Depending on how this goes there might be money to be made at this since I can't imagine who they are using for handicappers. jabro fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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The SituAsian posted:So has draftkings always offered League of Legends dfs or is this new? Brand new. I don't know enough about LoL, especially competitive scene LoL, to play, but I am laughing thinking of all the bros like what the gently caress is this nerd poo poo
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VietCampo posted:Joined a 6$ contest on DK with I started out with a similar looking lineup today for a $5 draftkings contest, and it's morphed into this now QB: R. Wilson - $7000 RB: L. Murray - $5800 RB. D. Woodhead - $4400 WR: R. Cobb - $7300 WR: J. Edelman - $7000 WR: A. Robinson - $5200 TE: T. Kelce - $5000 FLEX: D. Adams - $5000 DST: Patriots - $3100 this is my first year playing DFS, trying to not invest in too many players in the same games and failing at it... was trying to fit in Brady/Gronk/Edelman too lol.. maybe would be nice if Lacy doesn't play this week and then could use Starks for real cheap instead of Murray & use someone other than Adams in the flex. lots of pretty good looking options this week 
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JoshTheStampede posted:Brand new. I don't know enough about LoL, especially competitive scene LoL, to play, but I am laughing thinking of all the bros like what the gently caress is this nerd poo poo It showed up as a basketball icon on my phone so i thought it was something like Euroleague (if that's even going on now) for complete degenerates. Then i googled someone named "smeb" and thought "oh.......that's way worse"
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Varg posted:I started out with a similar looking lineup today for a $5 draftkings contest, and it's morphed into this now It is risk v reward for stacks, but if you get a good stack it catapults you into pretty high ranks. The conventional wisdom on if you are banking on players (outside of RB)...you might as well bank on their QB too since they have to get the ball thrown to them. For example your lineup is good and i'm not advocating for any changes because I am no expert and am giving my total anecdotal opinion. Anyone who says they are an expert at DFS is lying and those who are winning big are either stackers or reaaaaaaaally lucky, but imagine if you had Jimmy Graham in your TE position.....every touchdown or yards he gets also double dips into R.Wilsons score. Now imagine having Marshawn Lynch as well....he wont double dip into Wilsons total rushing but there is the potential for a screen or shot pass going for a TD and then it is a double dip. It is risky but (in my two year DFS experience) more likely that a stud stack is going to win you at least some money. Brady/Edelman/Gronk is a stack that I have at LEAST one of every week because Brady is good, Edelman is a PPR gem and Gronk scores almost a TD per game in his career statistics....from there you have to pick out what cheap players are likely to go off (hint, it's woodhead type backs who get a ton of throws their way). You also have two packers....you could always shed a couple bucks here and there and just run with Aaron Rodgers who is probably more likely to have an amazing DFS score than Wilson. Things to keep in mind when creating lineups.
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Is there accepted wisdom on what types of games one should be playing? In general, I think I will be playing 80% cash and 20% GPP on any given week, but of those cash games, what % should be H2H vs 50/50 or doubleups? I'm a new fish and scared of H2H but people seem to rely on it heavily. Also is there any reason to play the Fanduel "head to head matrix" games? It seems like it makes the sting of losing less bad but significantly less reward as well unless you beat EVERYONE. I'm looking at the money spread and wondering why I would play this over a 50/50. Edit: Also I'll throw this here in case there's anyone here who isn't already on Fanduel (https://www.fanduel.com/?invitedby=joshthestampede&cnl=da) or draftkings (https://www.draftkings.com/r/Joshthestampede) JoshTheStampede fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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JoshTheStampede posted:Is there accepted wisdom on what types of games one should be playing? In general, I think I will be playing 80% cash and 20% GPP on any given week, but of those cash games, what % should be H2H vs 50/50 or doubleups? I'm a new fish and scared of H2H but people seem to rely on it heavily. I don't do fanduel anymore because you can't edit lineups like you can on draftkings but stay way from h2h unless you have a tried and true lineup generation tool and a huge bankroll. Most of the people on the site are former poker players and they have no problem preying on h2h teams. Double ups aren't bad but you need to have some solid teams being input to stay above board on your bankroll because it's so tempting to go for the big double ups. GPP is obviously a crapshoot but if you bankroll manage throughout a variety of game types you should do ok. There are quarter games that award 20 dollar tickets so I try to play like 2-3 dollars from there and have that to help my personal bankroll
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I prefer H2H because you will still win some of your matchups even if a couple players bomb and you miss the cutoff for cashing on a double up. On the flip side, you will occasionally lose a H2H because your opponent had an insane lineup even though you would have cashed in any double up. So the balance depends on how confident you are in your lineups. If you are very confident, double ups may be better. But if you play H2H do NOT post your own games. Instead look through the games of others and search for their username on rotogrinders to see if they show up. If they don't, then its a good bet they are new. Those are the only H2H I'll play.
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Anyone play on FantasyHub? Looks pretty new, but decent looking site, has a mobile app, a lot of freerolls and login-bonus games, and a 300% deposit bonus. I suspect a lot of overlay on Sunday but we'll see. Here's my referral link if anyone wants it: https://fantasyhub.com/r/joshthestampede
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