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*Unless you are in Arizona, Montana, Louisiana, Iowa or Washington When the UIGEA passed in 2006, online poker and casino gaming was doomed. However, an exception for wagering "games of skill" such as fantasy sports would soon come to create a multi-billion dollar industry all with the partnerships of the same leagues who have fought tooth and nail for decades to stop sports gambling. With many of these sites, mainly DraftKings and FanDuel being advertised like crazy now this season what better time than to throw $20 onto one of these site and have some fun with it, if you put in some time grind out a few bucks a week or my personal favorite; blindly put a lineup into one of the bigger tournaments and:  How it works Players are given dollar amount values and you are given a salary cap from which to build a lineup with. The main game types are: Tournaments-Large field event such as the Sunday Million which usually have a guaranteed prize pool (GPP) but top heavy payouts Cash Games-All winners get the same payout, typically slightly less than their buy (50/50 which pays the top half), their buyin (double up which pay around 45%) and multipliers (Top 3rd win 3x the buy in, etc.) Heads up-You play one other person in a winner take all. Without getting too in depth the basic idea is to build lineups which have a high ceiling for GPPs and a low floor for 50/50. Where to play Fanduel - Referral link because I gots to get paid  https://www.fanduel.com/?invitedby=bfreeman&cnl=da -The larger and older of the two main sites. The main difference with Draftkings is that lineups lock when a contest starts. -Offers NFL and College Football, MLB, college and NBA Basketball and NHL Draftkings  https://www.draftkings.com/r/BFreeman -Frankly where I prefer to play. Players can be swapped until their game starts even if the contest has already begun. Football is scored full PPR whereas Fanduel is .5PR -Has soccer (MLS, Barclays Premier League and UEFA Champions League), Golf, Nascar, MMA (UFC and Bellator) in addition to NFL and College Football, MLB, NCAA and NBA Basketball as well as NHL Yahoo has recently established a dfs site of its own and their are a bunch of smaller ones I'll update this with as time allows. Resources News You're still going to want to check Rotoworld or Rotowire depending on what you already do. Both have had a daily specific section for a while. General Strategy Rotogrinders - Largest dedicated DFS site and community Reddit DFS - I would have to assume the second most active community Daily Fantasy Sports Rankings Basic picks as well as a paid premium service. Never used it honestly. Covers - Covers.com. Easiest way to do mass research for Over/Under and Lines on each game Deeper Strategy Bayesian Fantasy Football - I don't even know how to really describe without \either totally missing the point or sounding like a complete idiot but it's definitely worth a read. Please use this thread for all general dfs discussion as well as lineup advice/critique The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Amergin posted:Anyone throwing Doug Martin in as a value pick/flier for RB slot on Fanduel and DraftKings? His price and matchup look perfect but... he's Doug Martin. Doug Martin is pretty much a classic example of the type of high upside player you would want in a tournament. As you mentioned the Titans probably wont be improved over last year when they were a total dumpster fire and he has looked good in preseason. That being said he has a higher probability of putting up a total dud than, say Mark Ingram or Lamar Miller, which is why he might not be ideal for cash games. I will be making substantial updates to the op as time goes by. Especially highlighting some of the smaller sites. Just wanted to have something as football season started and there was a rush of newer players with these sites being advertised all over the place The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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OrangeKing posted:I told myself I would wait until Sunday to start playing again this season. Naturally, I fired six $3 lineups into contests starting Thursday. Moved off of Gronk (granted it was a free dollar from Fanduel to enter the 25K squib but still). Looks like multiple reloads for me this season 
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OrangeKing posted:Thursday was a success, I think: the three Gronk lineups are all making me happy, with both Gronk/Brady and Gronk/Brown off to excellent starts. And Roethlisberger and Wheaton were both reasonable value for their prices, so even the Steelers stack (Ben/Brown/Wheaton) turned out well. I would have to agree that it would be Davante and then Tyrod being the most highly owned by a bit. I actually think Beckham will be the third highest because Cowboys-Giants has shootout written all over it and the savings from Tyrod/Adams. Also people seem to be more in love with him than Julio (who im fading actually) or Dez who i think will have the best of the prestige wideouts this weekend.
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SurgicalOntologist posted:Put in 55 lineups this week, about 90% GPPs, on DK and FD. Figured I'd post my exposure percentages by position. There's obviously a ton of value in week 1 which means there are even more combinations than usual that are promising for GPPs, hence the wide variety in my picks here. I prefer cash games myself but spray and pray is pretty much the only way to go to if I were trying to 'grind' GPPs. By dint of sheer numbers you've got pretty much all of the hits but I feel like you should try to find ways to fit in Steve Smith or Kamar Aiken in a few lineups since they'll be target monsters (especially Smith) in one the likely higher scoring games of the weekend.
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Sub Par posted:Really wishing I had Mariota and Jones today instead of Tyrod and Adams. Also, gently caress Sheldon Adelson  And I'm so sorry for recommending Steve Smith and Kamar Aiken  .
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Fingers McGee posted:Tried out draft kings this Sunday. Since the games were already under way I did just Sunday/Monday night games. I spent $9 in various newbie games and only won $2, but I wish I had played that lineup more. Going for some full week games this week. But is there any added advantage/disadvantage to more limited games like the night games or just early games etc? Having less games to choose leads to scores being lot closer together since everyone will be picking from a smaller pool of players. Therefore there's a higher chance that one of your players having a bad game will cause you to miss out on cashing. Conversely if you're able to pick out whichever 3rd string rb can vulture a td then you' can move up higher so it's a tradeoff. Comes down to preference really but playing with a smaller slate is higher variance and something you might want to avoid as a newer player.
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CompeAnansi posted:That last second Matthews TD saved my week. Now I'll be anxiously watching the games tomorrow to see if I fall out of the payout zone. http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/fyday.pl?game=fd Appears to have draftkings as well as baseball and basketball for both
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JoshTheStampede posted:Oh also defenses. I was on Dolphins, Ravens, Rams, Saints. Feels bad man. Look at this scrub who didn't roll with obvious value picks in Travis Benjamin and Larry Fitzgerald. For real though, it's really wipeout weeks like this where bankroll managment becomes really important if the goals is to actually grind as opposed to just deposit a few bucks every week and throw darts hoping to be one of those giant check dudes in the commercials. https://rotogrinders.com/articles/daily-fantasy-bankroll-management-an-overview-138544 VVV: As much as my side that's really mad that I never made anything out of the internet poker boom so I better get really good at this begs to differ this really is the best way to look at it. Now there are ways to mitigate being a -EV player (mainly free offers and strictly entering contests with overlay mainly) but in reality there are too many sharks already in and it's unlikely that the casual dude who just puts in $25 because of the commercial will come back to have any real impact on a site's economy. For pretty much all of us it comes down to do you want the roulette experience of GPPs or blackjack/pai gow with cash games? The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Sep 21, 2015 |
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OrangeKing posted:I write about gambling-related issues for a living, so just to hit the highlights of the legal discussion: While online poker died in a big way in the us when the UIEGA passed it really didn't go away to the extent it has until Black Friday in April 2011 (right?)
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Ozu posted:Ivory re-aggravated his groin and there's a chance the Jets start spelling with Zac Stacy until he's back to 100%. Why wouldnt they be starting Powell instead?
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RE Legality of DFS I would agree with the sentiment that, at least as a legal activity, it is here to stay. Even after poker was effectively "outlawed" in October 2006 it still existed in a big way until April 2011. And after some the really shady poo poo that many sites (namely Full Tilt engaged in) I'm kind of glad that someone did something. Also, online poker and casino gaming had powerful enemies from the start like Sheldon Adelson and even though pretty much all of them except Adelson have come around all the large brick and mortar gaming operators like MGM, Caesars and Boyd Gaming while many of the sports leagues are forming dfs parternships, and Adam Silver has straight come out in favor of legalized gaming. Moving onto this week I decided to burn one of the my Millionaire maker tickets and made this QB: Carson Palmer $6,600 RB: David Johnson $4,000, Danny Woodhead $4,400 WR: Julian Edelman $7,000, Larry Fitz $5,800; Jarvis Landry $6,400 TE: Travis Kelce $5,000 Flex: Randall Cobb $7,300 DEF: Seahawks $3,400
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So has draftkings always offered League of Legends dfs or is this new?
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JoshTheStampede posted:Brand new. I don't know enough about LoL, especially competitive scene LoL, to play, but I am laughing thinking of all the bros like what the gently caress is this nerd poo poo It showed up as a basketball icon on my phone so i thought it was something like Euroleague (if that's even going on now) for complete degenerates. Then i googled someone named "smeb" and thought "oh.......that's way worse"
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Rolling with the following for Cash Games (4 $1-big ballin baby) QB Tyrod Taylor RB Jamaal Charles RB Danny Woodhead WR Doug Baldwin WR Jarvis Landry WR Brandon Marshall TE Rob Gronkowski FLEX Travis Kelce DST Seahawks And this for my millionaire maker entry QB Carson Palmer RB Latavius Murray RB Danny Woodhead WR Larry Fitzgerald WR Brandon Marshall WR Allen Robinson TE Travis Kelce FLEX Randall Cobb DST Seahawks Also someone on Rotogrinders did a big  post on LoL as a dfs event including some basic strategy. There is 1K freeroll which starts next Thursday (which is apparenly the world championships) so what the hellhttps://rotogrinders.com/blog-posts/introduction-to-daily-fantasy-league-of-legends-on-draftkings-esports-838602 https://www.draftkings.com/contest/draftteam/10052291
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Used mainly points and tickets so i should technically be very profitable on the week since i am in the money in a few places. Most important sweat is that im sitting with a little under 160 in the millionaire maker with Kelce and Cobb left to go so i should be in the money for that so long as they get 25 or so points between them which hopefully isnt too much of a stretch
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railroad terror posted:Currently in 10th in a 115-man $5 tournament. Cmon Cobb!!! I'm hoping this worked about as well for you as it did for me. 
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Bagels for me this week apparently someone who works at Draftkings used knowledge of ownership percentages to win 350K on Fanduel last week. Also, apparently last week when Draftkings posted ownership percentages for the millionaire maker it included players whose games had not started (supposedly on accident). That....seems bad on both counts. https://rotogrinders.com/threads/draftkings-ownership-leak-850584?page=1#reply-850635 http://www.legalsportsreport.com/4548/draftkings-data-leak-faq/ The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Just to clarify the employee of Draftkings who won on Fanduel is written content manager Ethan Haskell who was responsible for posting the 'error' ownership pecentages. When talking about allowing employees of one site to play on another you would hope there would be some segregation between those involved in operations and something user facing like website content. Assuming everything was on the level i wouldn't worry about having some lineups in a contest Ethan happened to be entered in anymore than i would worry about playing a Poker pro on a website they sponsor or (maybe more accurately) like a community manager for Activision in Call of Duty. The fact that he posted something that is not supposed to be known to anyone other than the game operators, even if accidentally, reveals really poor control over such in one of the largest sites at best and something really shady at worst. EDIT: VVVV I agree that's it not as bad as paying people to outright throw games but having inside information of ownership percentages allows you to tweak lineups when you can in such a way that you gain an advantage. And when we're talking about changing hundreds of tournament lineups at a time and gaining even thousandths of percentage points of EV it really seems like inside information to me. And now New York Times is on the story; pack it in boys. Also, there's a "temporary" ban for DK and FD employees playing on any dfs sites. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/fanduel-draftkings-fantasy-employees-bet-rivals.html?_r=0 The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Fanduel and Draftkings have permanently banned employees from playing on any dfs sites http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/13827269/fanduel-permanently-bans-employees-playing-dfs-money-amid-inquiry The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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DFS now illegal in Nevada. http://gaming.nv.gov/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=10481
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AnacondaHL posted:Oh, it's true. Residents of Nevada can still play on FD/DK. But now Nevada is saying FD/DK are unregulated, and if they offer games to Nevada residents they are now breaking Nevada law. The extra note at the end mentioning sports books and casinos is just warning them to disassociate with the unregulated DFS companies unless/until FD/DK get gaming approvals. Pretty much this. Basically any NGCB (Nevada Gaming Control Board) unregulated DFS site-which is of course all of them right now-can effectively no longer legally operate in Nevada. Of course I've heard there ways to get around this for residents of the the other states where dfs is illegal but between this and NY and Federal investigation in the wake of #DKleak it's safe to say that the environment is going to get a lot more challenging if and before it ever gets easier.
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Elysium posted:How do the signup bonuses work for these sites? The majority of the bonuses are released as .04/dollar entered. So for instance if you deposit $100 on any of the "main sites" (Draftkings and Fanduel ) you will get a $100 bonus. If you enter a $5 contest, as soon as the contest begins a .20 bonus will be added to your account at a certain time. For Fanduel it is added immediately but for Draftkings you need to earn $1 of bonus ($25 worth of entries) before it is added to your account. Yahoo also offers a bonus equal to double your deposit, which is released at the same rate as the others and immediately like Fanduel, if you are also in a season long league on yahoo https://sports.yahoo.com/dailyfantasy/ PS-I included my referral links for Draftkings and Fanduel in case you wish to deposit. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 18, 2015 |
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Miami seems way better under Campbell but Arian Foster seems as sure points at running back as anyone other than Freeman right now. EDIT: Basically i feel you are going high end at rb the plays are Freeman and Foster on DK and Gurley or Ivory on Fanduel. Edit2: Supposedly an investigation by the Greenberg Traurig lawfirm shows that Ethan Haskell did not receive the millionaire maker ownership percentages until after his Fanduel lineups had locked.Too bad Pandora's Box is already open. http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id/13924648/investigation-commissioned-draftkings-says-employee-locked-lineup-receiving-internal-data The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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At least Robert Woods is making up for Jimmy Graham's failures in my Thursday lineups  And he's like 1-2% owned. If only I had woken up early to start him in seasonal
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CompeAnansi posted:I know this is mostly football chat, but has anyone tried out basketball? I've dabbled the last two days and it's been pretty fun. One of the interesting things about basketball is there is a dearth of information. There are no FootballGuys or 4for4 for basketball, so if you're into doing analysis on your own you can really give yourself a leg up on the general public. The one thing that is a bit more stressful is that basketball is a true daily sport, which requires a lot more time and research if you don't have most of your process automated. As primarily a cash game player I actually prefer basketball to football. A bad game from a player wont necessarily totally wipe you out since floors tend to be higher. For instance Anthony Davis had a terrible game opening night but still had around 30 points on Draftkings. Granted that's falling way short of the value you would want to be at to cash in cash games (around 5.5x so 275 points, while the magic number for gpps tends to be 300 points.) But its not a total blowout like your super stud wide receiver getting less than 10 points. Also the fact that its a way less popular game means its easy to gave an edge of you do any research at all. Of course i would imagine this falls off when football season ends and most of the "recreational" players dont touch their dfs accounts.
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Spoeank posted:Wait NBA GPPs should be around 300 points? I've had two lineups a night every night in 50/50s as I've learned basketball DFS and every one except one has gotten more than 300. First take your #humblebrags elsewhere but yes at least for last year (running a gpp and multiple cash game nightly fron Christmas to the finals) as well as what ive gathered for what passes as trustworthy on reddit dfs and rotogrinders that tends to be accurate.
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Darko posted:I was in Phoenix. Great week to be in a blocked state; because i would have gotten approximately 0. I actually am curious about this. The sites have your state info on file and you have to click on that "I am not a resident of (blocked state)" before you enter a contest. Do they ip check you as well to make sure you're not logged on from a blocked state as well? Edit: thanks for the info. Makes sense though since they're on the knife edge when it comes to the regulatory environment. The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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Luckily for spoeank and myself California and Illinois have two of the more "friendly" dfs bills so far introduced to the legislature. Washington also might be considered regulation which would certainly buck the trend of making dfs harder to play. I would definitely recommend following Legal Sports Report as all this madness proceeds. On a more fun note I managed to cash in my basketball double ups tonight despite Wesley Matthews getting 1.75 points. Yes, 1.75 points in an entire basketball game. #skillgame
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Yuzenn posted:You can mass update player swaps but if you have to make multiple swaps at once you need to do them by lineup. I don't know how many lineups you have at once but I usually do around 24 quarter lineups and 2-4 double up lineups a week and I had no problems swapping out lynch for rawls and shifting much more heavy to Amendola in the flex to afford hopkins and jones. Agreed that draftkings is, in my opinion a superior experience than fanduel for all those reasons but i have noticed they have been pricing very aggressively compared to what I remember last year. Of course there still is value but the even last year i feel like, for example, it would have taken like half a season of Rondo playing like he is for his price to jump from like 6000 to 9000. Another point in draftkings favor is the -.5 point per turnover which makes someone like Mudiay or D'angelo Russell a more viable play. Then again you can just always play PG 13 and win all the money all time because boy is a grown rear end man. Edit: also maybe its already been posted (im such an absentee landlord) but theres a guy on the reddit collecting millionaire maker data for the max entry sharks and surprise surprise theyre for the most part consistents loser at least for this contest Basically do not ever go chalk in gpps unless you're maxadalury and going 100% exposure to Randall cobb in week 3 win you a million dollars. https://m.reddit.com/r/dfsports/comments/3u570l/nfl_week_11_draftkings_milly_maker_results/ The SituAsian fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Nov 25, 2015 |
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Sorry for double post. The modern smartphone is tricky to navigate.
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If youre not buried with work like me today, legal sports report is live tweeting the New York dfs hearings. David Boies (represented Gore in Bush v Gore, other very high profile legal cases) is counsel for draftkings https://twitter.com/LSPReport
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Draftkings is running black friday "discounts" on three large NBA GPPs on Friday. The 300K 3 Ball ($285 to enter from $300), 250K Sharpshooter (25.59 from 27) and 250K (2.70 from 3) https://www.draftkings.com/lobby#/NBA/0/All
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While I feel DFS was always destined to die down as a result of fatigue from mainly overexposure but also players not having as much disposable income during the poker boom days it really feels like #DKleak, Ethan Haskell and the resulting scrutiny is really what's killed it, at least for now. Since NFL Week 1 we've had Nevada and New York players banned from playing and just today the attorney general of Illinois states that DFS is illegal under state law. Her decision doesn't look like it's going to lead to sites immediately withdrawing as they did in New York and Nevada but it's just indicatative of the environment. To add my own personal anecdote to this in week 1 a bunch of people at work started up a weekly $5 draftkings game. It eventually grew to about 20 out of ~200 people in the office (with a few friends/relatives), within 4 weeks of DKleak like half of the people dropped out and I'm pretty sure it's dead now. From a libertarian perspective-not crazy kill you're parents Ron Paul style, more just the government should stay out of personal business leanings-I definitely prefer that dfs remain strictly speaking legal but I would much rather it is regulated than as it was before. It would probably never be a fraction what it was at it's peak, however brief that was, but I would much rather have a safe small game than a huge rigged one.
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Yuzenn posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/22/sports/football/draftkings-and-fanduel-stop-taking-bets-in-new-york.html DFS sites are also in litigation with Texas and Illinois. FWIW I know there are a number of bills explicitly legalizing dfs passing through those state legislatures so the positive spin could be that they want to stay off the attorney general's shitlist before they come back but it seems like it will get worse before-and if-it gets better.
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