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Why is Patrick Swayze kicking that US Army officer (clearly carrying an AR, even if he is wearing the wrong helmet) in the chin? Alternately the Swayz just ripped one and the soldier fell over laughing about it. I'm not going to even touch that ridiculous gun he's holding. It has three barrels and what I can only assume is some kind of very, very large scope? It's like they married a grenade launcher to I don't even know what.
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RickVoid posted:I'm not going to even touch that ridiculous gun he's holding. It has three barrels and what I can only assume is some kind of very, very large scope? It's like they married a grenade launcher to I don't even know what.
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Sep 12, 2015 03:09
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Well, since it is clearly only emitting very short flames instead of firing rounds I assume it is some sort of crazy experimental industrial butane lighter.
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Sep 12, 2015 03:35
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If you use a takedown on a supersoldier and then start shooting at them when their gun, do they start losing armor?
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Sep 12, 2015 05:12
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We're gonna kill Rudi's dog in front of his eyes, aren't we?
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Sep 12, 2015 06:56
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Don't think anybody has mentioned it yet, but the Skyrim helmet isn't the only reference yet: Just started playing today and noticed it on the vending machines past the telephone speaking Nazi in the wire-car-whatever-thing station.  I was sure that Graben Freunde meant "grave/coffin friends"  I just like this "trains on time" poster.
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Sep 12, 2015 07:49
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Fantastic, glad to see you get around to LPing this, Lazyfire. I only caught the TNO LP right as it was ending, but it immediately sold me on the TNO&TOB Steam bundle - MachineGames definitely deserved it. I do really wish that the pipes had become The Melee Weapon, and the knife wasn't an option after the intro. It would have simplified the weapon loadout a bit, and the knife is really just irrelevant anyway (except for throwing). Minor complaint, though, and I massively enjoyed my time in Old Blood. The fact that you can choose whether or not to try stealth is great, and I happily played this with BJ's patented stealth method (kill a few Nazis quietly for variety before you have them summon even more to gun down). The combat in these games really is just fantastic, and each of these arenas can turn into a great sorta-harrassed, sorta-in control running gunfight on less brutal difficulty levels. Also, re: Indiana Jones, I think they still have the stunt show going at Disney-MGM next to the Star Wars section, and it was always great fun. One time with my family, my dad actually got in as one of the henchmen by specifically bringing his loudest, gaudiest, pinkest Hawaiian shirt and jumping up and down yelling his head off when they picked volunteers. Fun show.
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Sep 12, 2015 13:04
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I'm sure this gets mentioned in every Wolfenstein thread ever, but the background of the castle and the frequent mention of the city of Paderborn point to the Wewelsburg near Paderborn being Castle Wolfenstein's real-life counterpart. Especially since the Wewelsburg was a popular spot for Nazi and SS activities.
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Sep 12, 2015 13:52
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Samovar posted:We're gonna kill Rudi's dog in front of his eyes, aren't we? Alternate option: We somehow trick Greta into attacking Rudi, and Rudi accidentally kills Greta in the confusion. Cue the Rudi Jager boss fight.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:That isn't the first Nightmare bed, I think. There was one back in the intro chapter. Under the Gondola leading up to Castle Wolfentsein. I believe that one is supposed to be found when you come back through the area later as the first bed I showed off is the first level of the Hans Grosse chapter from Wolf 3D. Lazyfire fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Sep 12, 2015 |
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Sep 12, 2015 21:22
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DeusExMachinima posted:OK, one thing that's bothering me is that we're told Rudi feeds prisoners to his dogs. But the guy we see him dragging is speaking German and looks pretty Aryan? I guess he could be a deserter but that brings up the question of why anyone would desert from the Wehrmacht when the war's going so well for them, particularly a cushy guard job way behind the front lines. Not sure if this was mentioned, but I think that given the note alongside the prisoner who was brought into the dogs, I think the prisoner was the veterinarian who refused to give Rudi's dog surgery.
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That'd certainly add another layer to the insanity and now that I think about it that's the most logical explanation. The Den is a research base not a prison or frontline stockade that POWs would naturally end up at. Although I'm probably putting more thought into this than MachineGames did.
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Sep 14, 2015 21:00
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Edit regine cineres hic sarcophagus habet. "This sarcophagus holds the ashes of the queen Eadgyth." It's a real inscription http://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2010/7073.html
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Sep 14, 2015 22:56
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Does the Laying/Lying joke even work the same way in German that it does in English?
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Sep 15, 2015 00:06
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Every single gun in this game has tremendous feedback on it. They all manage to feel powerful and dangerous.
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Sep 15, 2015 00:08
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BJ rammed a pipe straight through a dude's steel helmet. 
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Sep 15, 2015 01:48
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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DeusExMachinima posted:BJ rammed a pipe straight through a dude's steel helmet.
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Kurieg posted:Does the Laying/Lying joke even work the same way in German that it does in English? Only if the guy trying to tell the story is a complete and utter dumbass. So, not really. Also, I could swear that grammar Nazi is a famous German voice actor but cannot find his credit anywhere.
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gschmidl posted:Only if the guy trying to tell the story is a complete and utter dumbass. So, not really. It works in english because our language doesn't really have a set pattern for tenses like the romance languages do. The past tense of lie is lay. Where as the present tense of laid is lay. I have no idea how german conjugation works normally, but from my brief wiki trolling it looks like the infinitives are similar but the conjugations are very different.
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Sep 15, 2015 05:30
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gschmidl posted:Only if the guy trying to tell the story is a complete and utter dumbass. In the words of Private Wyatt: "The best part about Nazis, sir, is that they really are stupid!"
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Sep 15, 2015 05:31
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That joke is so good, they used it in both games. Literal grammar Nazis, ho-ho!
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I love that little sting that plays every time you silently headshot a dude. Keeps things tense.
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Pennfalath posted:Edit regine cineres hic sarcophagus habet. ...which part of that inscription refers to Eadgyth?
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Samovar posted:...which part of that inscription refers to Eadgyth? "EDIT". Eadgyth is just "Edith" in Olde Ynglysh. e: technically the Old English is Ēadgȳð gschmidl fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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The game is a little too happy with floor breaks, BJ falls. Of course, that's not even to close to CoD Ghosts falling-as-transition.
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JcDent posted:The game is a little too happy with floor breaks, BJ falls. I will take 'floor breaks, hero falls' over Crysis 2's constant concussions and unconsciousness any day. Plus, it makes sense here. BJ is a 200kg muscle mountain lugging another 400kg of plate armour, weapons and ammo, plus an increasing number of solid gold bricks. If anyone is going to overstress a dry old wooden gangway, it's BJ. Speaking of gold bricks, I believe the one in the tomb pit is from the 'dead end' that's been boarded up. You have to show those boards who's boss to open a path towards loot.
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So with any luck the LP inside the LP will be starting up Wednesday next week. It'll probably only be about four videos and pretty short ones at that. It really more belongs in the bad game thread than anywhere else, but it'll cover the rest of the LP easily.
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WFGuy posted:I will take 'floor breaks, hero falls' over Crysis 2's constant concussions and unconsciousness any day. Plus, it makes sense here. BJ is a 200kg muscle mountain lugging another 400kg of plate armour, weapons and ammo, plus an increasing number of solid gold bricks. If anyone is going to overstress a dry old wooden gangway, it's BJ. There is also the chamber right before you need to sprint jump across the walkway, there are some boards you can climb up. It's a really 2000's set piece, because the boards are pretty tiny and it feels like you are breaking the game.
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I am so irrationally goddamn angry that the assault rifle isn't a super science version of the FG-42 from Return to Castle Wolfenstein.  I mean its nice that the bolt action rifle references it but I would have liked a different version of the assault rifle rather then the super science STG-44 from the new order.
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Klaus88 posted:I am so irrationally goddamn angry that the assault rifle isn't a super science version of the FG-42 from Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Are you trying to suggest the Nazis should not have been the model of efficiency by only inventing one perfect, one-size fits all assault weapon and should instead have pursued many extravagant and mostly pointless variants solely to look cool? It's like you don't get Nazis at all! (Nazis would totally have done that)
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The Nazis had the most inefficient economy in the history of the world. The Italian fascists had the second. About the only thing the Nazis were actually good at was lying about how good they were at things. They inherited or stole everything worthwhile.
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I know, that was the joke. Nazis were awful at everything and their economy basically got steadily worse the more non-nazi economists and officials they purged and replaced with nazis. I mean, heck, it's one of the key plot points in Wolfenstein, and one I appreciate: They didn't invent all this stuff. They stole it. From Jews.
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The Nazis were amazing at hilariously impractical weapons. Also rockets, they were drat good at rockets. Neruz fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Mostly because the von brauns were good at their jobs and fit all the prerequisites to not be murdered. Logistically it was bound to happen in some field
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Also the Nazis wouldn't have been as efficient in their rounding up of people if it wasn't for good old American IBM and their punch card tabulating machines. IBM allowed the Nazis to conduct a census and find out who had Jewish grand parents, that data could be then stored, sorted and then passed on to the relevant department. It's one of the reasons they were able to be so effective and quick rounding people up Incidentally that is what the tattoos were for in the concentration camps, your number for the IBM Hollerith machines.
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JFairfax posted:Also the Nazis wouldn't have been as efficient in their rounding up of people if it wasn't for good old American IBM and their punch card tabulating machines. IBM allowed the Nazis to conduct a census and find out who had Jewish grand parents, that data could be then stored, sorted and then passed on to the relevant department. It's one of the reasons they were able to be so effective and quick rounding people up Could you elaborate on that? Because that is an aspect of the Holocaust I wasn't aware of until now.
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This is probably the most thorough book on the subject, although IBM has said that it stretches a bit of some of it's conclusions and allegations. Here's the wiki page for it with a good overview.
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Captain Bravo posted:This is probably the most thorough book on the subject, although IBM has said that it stretches a bit of some of it's conclusions and allegations. Here's the wiki page for it with a good overview. Even if it's 100% accurate they'd still say that, so it doesn't help much 
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bumblingbee posted:Could you elaborate on that? Because that is an aspect of the Holocaust I wasn't aware of until now. yeah, sure Neruz has posted a link to IBM and the Holocaust which is an amazing work of history. Anyway the high level summary is this: IBM made it's name and fortune in the late 19th Century producing punch card machines that were used primarily for Census information. They got a contract to add up the numbers for the US Censuses in the late 19th and early 20th century. Eventually IBM developed overseas operations, selling their punch card machines to the Tsar in Russia and eventually to Nazi Germany. What their punch cards would allow the Census organisers to store was very basic information, male, female, single, married, religion, but it also allowed them to mark information up to two generations back, so they could tell if you had a Catholic Grandfather and a Jewish Grandmother. Also I think they would sometimes take the information from the records of births and deaths held by the various towns and cities and sometimes church organisations. Therefore even if you didn't fill out the census the Nazi party would have information about you. One of the things IBM and the Holocaust elaborates on is that it wasn't just that the Nazis bought the machines off the shelf and ran them, they were for the time very complicated and required lots of man (well usually women) power to operate as they were far from automated in their operation. And once IBM realised that the Nazis were really serious about keeping track of information about their population then IBM worked very closely with them to develop solutions that suited their needs. Of which a large part was identifying peoples racial / religious heritage. What this information allowed the Nazis to do is essentially produce long lists of all the people with Jewish ancestry say and quickly and effectively capture them and round them up. They knew where they lived and they knew your ancestry. There were a few American companies that worked with the Nazis, Prescott Bush, father of G Bush and grandfather of GW even got in trouble for trading with the Nazis. Also one could make the argument that the Nazis were inspired by a lot of American theories on Eugenics and for setting the presidency of having legalised racism / slave labour in an industrialised country. But that's getting away from the documented facts that IBM machines helped the Nazis carry out the Holocaust. The book does make it clear that the Nazis were set on this, and would probably have achieved it anyway if they really wanted to - but for certain aspects the IBM machines really helped with the efficiency of the process. If you don't have time to read the book this article gives a reasonable summary: http://gizmodo.com/5812025/how-ibm-technology-jump-started-the-holocaust JFairfax fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Sep 16, 2015 |
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Night10194 posted:I know, that was the joke. The Nazis literally had an idiotic line of thought called Aryan Physics! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik
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