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DONT CARE BUTTON posted:lady gaga is talented and good Totally agree with this sentiment
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Oct 5, 2015 13:23
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DONT CARE BUTTON posted:lady gaga is talented and good At acting though? Have to admit every singer turned actor I can think of offhand was pretty bad, Madonna, Eminem, Jeniffer Lopez. I guess Meat Loaf was pretty good in Fight Club because he was willing to be humiliated but it was only a minor part. I'm not sure Mark Wahlberg counts because I'm not sure how much of a music career he actually had. I'd be less worried if it was like an action film and they only had to look good on screen while the stunt double does all the heavy lifting but in a horror show there's going to be a lot of closeups where acting will be necessary.
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Oct 5, 2015 13:34
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I dropped out of Freakshow a little after Twisty ascended. I don't know if I can bring myself back for a third terrible season featuring Lady Gaga. I will be reading this thread though so I expect plenty of write ups over every disappointing detail.
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Oct 5, 2015 13:51
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Goofballs posted:At acting though? Have to admit every singer turned actor I can think of offhand was pretty bad, Madonna, Eminem, Jeniffer Lopez. I guess Meat Loaf was pretty good in Fight Club because he was willing to be humiliated but it was only a minor part. I'm not sure Mark Wahlberg counts because I'm not sure how much of a music career he actually had. I'd be less worried if it was like an action film and they only had to look good on screen while the stunt double does all the heavy lifting but in a horror show there's going to be a lot of closeups where acting will be necessary. For every one of those, there's another good one. Bette Davis? Bjork? Jennifer Hudson? Barbara Streisand? Frank Sinatra? Will Smith? Cher? Queen Latifah? They've all either gotten nominated for Academy Awards/Golden Globes/Cannes Film Festival Awards or outright won them. Singers can be actors and drat good ones.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:01
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The only role I've seen Lady Gaga in was in Machete Kills where it wasn't even a speaking role, and the movie itself all but sucked. But still...DONT CARE BUTTON posted:lady gaga is talented and good ...so I'm interested to see what she can do.
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Oct 5, 2015 14:15
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I'm gonna keep an open mind about Gaga since there's no acting evidence to judge her by yet.
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Oct 5, 2015 17:09
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DONT CARE BUTTON posted:lady gaga is talented and good I don't have a problem with Lady Gaga necessarily. Lady Gaga as the lead, on a show being run by Ryan Murphy is the problem. Maybe they won't do a single glee-like musical number and she'll have a great performance, but I certainly think I have good reason to be skeptical about it after last season and the ham fisted Stevie Nicks cameo from Coven.
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Oct 6, 2015 01:11
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Goofballs posted:At acting though? Have to admit every singer turned actor I can think of offhand was pretty bad, Madonna, Eminem, Jeniffer Lopez. I guess Meat Loaf was pretty good in Fight Club because he was willing to be humiliated but it was only a minor part. I'm not sure Mark Wahlberg counts because I'm not sure how much of a music career he actually had. I'd be less worried if it was like an action film and they only had to look good on screen while the stunt double does all the heavy lifting but in a horror show there's going to be a lot of closeups where acting will be necessary. Her whole schtick is a big piece of performance art and she hams it up in her elaborate videos already. Whether she's actually a good actress or not is yet to be seen (and unless she's given the Lange spot it isn't like AHS is the best place to find her range) but she's a perfect fit for a Murphy project where if you're campy enough you can still stand up there as a highlight. Also J. Lo has been a way better actress than singer for years imo. Not a lot of range but she was great in Selena and The Cell, and she certainly hasn't been offensively bad since. Just felt like saying that.
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Oct 6, 2015 17:15
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Well my point of view is just that I hope it all works out well but I'm kind of suspicious of it doing so. I don't want to poo poo on anyone's fav music artist too much pre-emptively. Just to go back to the other actors that Pan Dulce mentioned wasn't Will Smith on the fresh prince for like a decade before he was a music star? I think Bjork was really good in Dancer in the Dark too but some of that was Lars von Trier being a total psychopath. Bette Midler and Barbra Streisand worked fine as comedy actors, I can't nitpick there. Can't remember much of the Sinatra films so maybe he was amazing.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:07
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Even bad actors can be good if they're given the right role. I think murderous, glamorous, sexy fashionista in a campy horror show is not exactly outside of Gaga's range, whatever that is. Honestly, her appointment as a new lead is basically the only reason I'm back on Mr Murphy's Wild Ride. That, and hopefully Murphy is too distracted by Scream Queens to insert random subplots for hastily arranged guest stars and "social commentary". Give me that Asylum magic that I love, Gags.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:16
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wuthering posted:Even bad actors can be good if they're given the right role. I think murderous, glamorous, sexy fashionista in a campy horror show is not exactly outside of Gaga's range, whatever that is. I'm really hoping his being stretched over three shows all coming out at the same time or shortly after means they may all be a little more focused with him not having as heavy a hand in each. Of course it could (and likely will) go the opposite way. Another thing on top of Gaga that has me pretty hype for Hotel is the lack of Jessica Lange. Even ig someone else ends up playing the typical Lange character it would still count as a breath of fresh air. Huge downside however is lack of Lily Rabe being back fulltime. But some Sevigny is good.
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Oct 6, 2015 19:03
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Oct 6, 2015 19:31
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Waffleman_ posted:
Are there more character posters somewhere?
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Oct 6, 2015 19:38
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So just Morrissey then. Cool.
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:So just Morrissey then. Cool. I was thinking Adam Lambert.
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Oct 6, 2015 22:58
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COOL CORN posted:Are there more character posters somewhere? I don't know how many of these have been posted already, but these are the ones I found scrolling through the AHS Twitter for a while:      
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Oct 7, 2015 00:45
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Lady Gaga is the main character? Oh god there are going to be so many songs. SO MANY SONGS AND NONE OF THEM PERIOD APPROPRIATE. I wanted to give up on the show after Coven (Only good thing that season was young Fiona. She was so hot.) but saw Freak Show go up on Netflix and decided I would see if things got back on track. Things did not get back on track. Things were so NOT on track that I'm genuinely wondering if there's a season 4 recap that's just clips of Dandy screaming "I'M SO BORED! YOU ARE BORING!" So do I subject myself to this season and hate watch with the thread or do I just find something more productive to do with my time, like masturbating in front of an undead minotaur that is trying to kill me?
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Oct 7, 2015 09:48
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esperterra posted:I'm really hoping his being stretched over three shows all coming out at the same time or shortly after means they may all be a little more focused with him not having as heavy a hand in each. Of course it could (and likely will) go the opposite way. Lange isn't the problem, it's the writers who can't write a new part for her. One positive impression I get from the character posters is that the recurring actors look like they're out of their recurring roles. I admit that "Denis O'Hare as Liz Taylor" made me giggle a little. AHS has always shoehorned in historical figures and celebrities like Elizabeth Short, Anne Frank, Delphine LaLaurie, the Axeman, Edward Mordrake and now also Aileen Wuornos with varying results, but this one really has potential. While we are waiting, what do you all think were the best and worst parts of each season? Let's just admit that while Asylum was mostly awesome and Freak Show was mostly poo poo, all the seasons have their ups and downs. http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/10/heres-the-best-and-the-worst-storylines-of-past-seasons-of-american-horror-story/ I'll probably change my mind in a few minutes, but from the top of my head these are some favorite/least favorite moments for me: Murder House: + I actually liked the Tate/Violet love story and the reveal that Violet also had died in the house. I also liked the idea that Moira's ghost would appear different to Ben and Vivien. - The Black Dahlia. It was just: Oh, so not only has a lot of people died in the house, but one of the most famous murders in US history took place there??? Asylum: + Dominique-nique-nique... The Asylum rec room is scary enough in itself. I liked Sister Jude's fall from grace and that she went from being in charge to being a patient. Sister Mary Eunice is great in both her personalities, and Zack Quinto was great both before and after the big reveal. - ALIENS. WHY? Evan Peters' story was already pretty perfectly set up. Being in a mixed race relationship in a time and place where that wasn't accepted, and being wrongly accused of being a serial killer. There was no need for an alien abduction plotline, and it also ended really weird. Coven: + Jamie Brewer as Nan. - There's so much to chose from, but I think Jessica Lange's romance with the Axeman was pretty bad. Then there's the zombie attack. The inconsistency of the girls' powers. The incompetent witch hunters. Every dead character resurrected in some stupid way. Why did I still keep watching? Freak Show: + Twisty was a cool character that departed a little too soon, even if it was a good end to the Mordrake storyline. Finn Whitrock as Dandy was also a high point of the season. I also like the real "freaks" included in the cast. - There's so much wasted potential here, but I think Denis O' Hare's character bothered me the most. His con seemed way too impractical and risky even for a man completely without morals, and the idea that a scrawny John Waters lookalike could terrorize a circus troupe where almost everyone could snap his neck is just stupid.
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Oct 7, 2015 10:06
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The aliens in Asylum were the cherry on top of the weird sundae and I so do not agree that their inclusion was any sort of weakness.
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Oct 7, 2015 11:03
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:The aliens in Asylum were the cherry on top of the weird sundae and I so do not agree that their inclusion was any sort of weakness. Well, it's just my opinion, and I'd love to hear what you think was the nadir of Asylum, and the other seasons. I've never liked grey aliens as a horror monster, and they wouldn't have been used in movies and literature at all had it not been for all the people who believe they exist in real life. It also felt really tacked on in a story that already had a nazi doctor and his rabid human experiments, a demon possession, a serial killer, a 60's insane asylum complete with electroshock therapy and lobotomies, and the goddamned angel of death.
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Oct 7, 2015 13:35
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kjetting posted:the goddamned angel of death. This reminds me, I'm really disappointed that Frances Conroy won't be in this season. She was fantastic every time she was on screen (especially in Coven) and I love her.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:49
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Tonight on American Horror Story: "Checking In" Detective and family man John Lowe investigates a chain of gruesome murders in Los Angeles; a mysterious tip points John to the enigmatic Hotel Cortez.
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Oct 7, 2015 15:57
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:The aliens in Asylum were the cherry on top of the weird sundae and I so do not agree that their inclusion was any sort of weakness. I think the whole "aliens as a form of higher intelligence so superior to us they might as well be gods" fits in with the whole religion theme, so they're not that extraneous. The most pointless subplot in Asylum is Murder Santa, which is also one of the many best parts of Asylum. The whole season was essentially a house of cards of bullshit that would probably topple if assembled any differently.
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Oct 7, 2015 16:07
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kjetting posted:Lange isn't the problem, it's the writers who can't write a new part for her. One positive impression I get from the character posters is that the recurring actors look like they're out of their recurring roles. Lange is one of the best parts of the show, even when she's playing the same character since it's all Murphy seems to want to see her do. What I was getting at is I'd rather have Lange either not on the show or barely on it than stuck playing the same basic idea of a person again. Even if that character type is still there (and I've heard Paulson will be leaning in that direction) at least it's something a little different. As for the other actors I never felt they got shoehorned into playing the same thing over and over, not unless you're counting every season (barring the first in Paulson's case) having some kind of rivalry or tension between Lange and Paulson and Lange and Conroy, which imo is lovely and only ever felt samey because Lange was always stuck being samey.
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:The aliens in Asylum were the cherry on top of the weird sundae and I so do not agree that their inclusion was any sort of weakness.
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:The aliens in Asylum were the cherry on top of the weird sundae and I so do not agree that their inclusion was any sort of weakness. Their only weakness was not fighting Satan. I really wanted to see who came out on top in cosmic power. It'd be hilarious if the devil was real, and also a bitch compared to some alien culture.
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kjetting posted:+ Twisty was a cool character that departed a little too soon, even if it was a good end to the Mordrake storyline. Finn Whitrock as Dandy was also a high point of the season. I also like the real "freaks" included in the cast. Don't forget the museum lady basically implied to kill the freaks to sell them to her. It was also implied anytime he needed to 'terrorize' people he would just whip it out and shake his massive plot hole at people. Mordrake was so lame, they used him to just push in annoying rear end songs that really changed the show from horror to a drama, WTF why is there so many songs. I really don't believe people went to freak shows for a concert either. I also really never saw how Lange even compared herself to freaks. You got fake legs your pretty much not a freak. Tenzarin fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Oct 7, 2015 19:17
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Only one episode has been given to the press, but reviews are comparing it positively to seasons 1 and 2 and the person at The Verge called it "a whacked-out speedball of sex, death, heartbreak, and longing". No negative remarks about Gaga's acting, either.
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Oct 7, 2015 19:20
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haveblue posted:"a whacked-out speedball of sex, death, heartbreak, and longing". I expect my heart will get broken yet again.
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Oct 7, 2015 19:28
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Sold. Man I hope so. This could be a strong year for Murphy and co. But Crime Story is so iffy.
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Oct 7, 2015 20:01
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Just gently caress me up, Ryan. For good or bad.
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Oct 7, 2015 20:02
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Does this start tonight? I got disappointed with Freak Show after the Halloween episode, even there was a cool tidbit every now and again. It's like, as soon as Patti Labelle died, the show died too. Or really, the scene where Dandy killed the prostitute was probably the last good part. That scene was so chilling. I still don't get the point of NPH's plot line. Also, I wish James Cromwell would come back. He was the best part of season 2. The minute this season starts sucking, I'm giving up. Fool me once, Ryan Murphy...
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Oct 7, 2015 20:26
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:This reminds me, I'm really disappointed that Frances Conroy won't be in this season. She was fantastic every time she was on screen (especially in Coven) and I love her. She wasn't announced at the start of asylum right? There's still hope right? 
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Oct 7, 2015 21:06
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I'm watching Freak Show for the first time and the show must crash hard because I'm three episodes in and it's great so far. We've already cribbed wholesale from three iconic horror movies and it's glorious.
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Oct 7, 2015 21:56
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cthulusnewzulubbq posted:I'm watching Freak Show for the first time and the show must crash hard
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Oct 7, 2015 22:08
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LadyPictureShow posted:I still don't get the point of NPH's plot line. You try having your wife and her best friend cuck you while you watch.
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Oct 7, 2015 22:31
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Just found Vulture's review for the first episode: "American Horror Story: Hotel Is Tedious, Insufferable, and Occasionally Exhilarating." http://www.vulture.com/2015/10/american-horror-story-hotel-review.html Here's an interesting excerpt: "Much of AHS: Hotel is merely opportunistic, and some of it is insufferable, but every few minutes there’s a hint of the uncanny or sublime, and the very worst of it is mesmerizing because it’s so handsomely produced, and because it stands in opposition to most values associated with so-called “Quality TV.” Sounds about right for AHS. Article spoilery for the faint of heart
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Re: Asylum Aliens Their inclusion was not the problem, only the resolution or lack there of. Also when the power went out, and one was shown for a split second during a flash of lightning, I recall it being a bit more terrifying than the average grey but I could be wrong.
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Aliens that may or may not be resolved within the arc of story seem like the only way to make characters seem "crazy" or bewildered in the confines of a setting already as lunatic as the asylum was.
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